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Fourth-Generation Farmer, First-Generation Cidermaker Sophie Horstink of De Groote Wei, which means The Great Meadow in Dutch, is crafting Dutch cider as a value added project at her family’s farm. Located in the eastern Netherlands near Arnhem, the farm spans 16 hectares and has long produced dessert apples and pears. Sophie Horstink The Horstink family market is well-known and is a go-to place for locals to shop and would be considered a grocery store. She released her first cider in 2022. The early response was enthusiastic, selling out quickly and prompting her to scale...
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Donatas Genys didn’t set out to launch Lithuania’s first keeved cider. But after trips to England and Normandy, years of experimentation, and the planting of over 6,000 cider apple trees, that’s exactly what he’s doing. At Sodo Sidriné, located just a few kilometers from the city of Kaunus, Donatas is into a whole new era for cider Lithuania’s cider revival Donatas Genys Cider Culture and Baltic Roots Lithuania has deep agricultural roots, but apple trees which at many of the homes are desired more for eating or making apple wine while vodka and beer under Soviet rule...
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At the base of Colorado’s Grand Mesa, the world’s largest flat-top mountain, five generations of fruit growers have worked the land. Today, Snow Capped Cider carries on that legacy, crafting estate-grown ciders from fruit nurtured at elevations between 6,130 and 7,000 feet. The high desert sun, volcanic soil, and pure snowmelt water combine to create vibrant apples and distinctive ciders. From Hobby to Heritage What began as a small experiment soon blossomed into a full-fledged cidery. Sparked by a disappointing store-bought cider, Kari Williams and her family leaned into their winemaking...
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This episode of Cider Chat, was recorded in person with Abram Goldman-Armstrong at CiderCon2025 in Chicago. Hear his journey to cider. From growing up in Oregon’s Yamhill County to his current work in Norway’s Hardanger region at Alde Sider. Abram began fermenting cider as a student in Minnesota and went on to found the cidery known as Cider Riot in Portland, Oregon. His experience reflects both the evolution of the cider industry and the challenges of building a business grounded in values and community. The Cider Riot Years Cider Riot grew from a home cider making project into a...
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John Edwards, longtime cider maker and integral team member at Ross on Wye Cider & Perry Co., and the creative force behind his personal label Fly be Night Cider was last on the podcast in 2019. John Edwards In this Cider Chat with John Edwards ohn is part of the tight-knit crew at Ross Cider who keep things running from orchard to bottle. The team has embraced a belt press system, which John finds surprisingly nimble—even for small batches. While Ross is rooted in tradition, they’re also evolving their process to match the scale and diversity of their...
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Rainy Days Goes Best with Dry Cider in the Barrel Room Walking into the barrel room at Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company, you might think you know what to expect. But surrounded by whitewashed stone walls, standing beneath the old Hessian sacking floor, and facing rows of aging barrels, I quickly realized this wasn’t just a cidery—it’s a living, breathing creative space for cider making. Tom Oliver sources fruit both from his farm and from local orchards across Herefordshire. This isn’t an estate cidery where everything is grown on-site—but what sets Oliver’s cider and perry...
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Celebrating Perry’s Past, Present, and Future Tom Oliver began his keynote by saying, "At this year’s Applefest Banquet, I had the honor of lifting a glass to the people behind the pear—specifically Perry. It wasn’t just a toast to the drink itself, but to the incredible commitment behind its preservation and craft." Tom Oliver Three Perry Legends Charles Martel Known for his Stinking Bishop cheese and peri-based products. Catalogued disappearing peri pear varieties, creating the first national collection at the Three Counties Showground. His book on Gloucestershire...
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Drew Phillips opened the doors of Four Phantoms in Greenfield, Massachusetts in 2021. He began his fermentation career in the Pacific Northwest, and while waiting to open his own brewery, he took on the role as cider maker at Artifact Cider Project. Drew Phillips Known for his creative ciders and beers, Drew blends tradition with innovation, sourcing local fruit and experimenting with wild fermentation. Check out on the making of Old Gods . In this episode, Drew shares how Four Phantoms’ unique approach reflects the terroir of Western Massachusetts. Early Challenges of a...
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In this Season 10 premier of Cider Chat, "Introductions" are featured from over 40 persons in attendance at the annual 2025 Berkshire Roundtable. Kicking off Season 10 of Cider Chat The opportunity to begin Season 10 with "Hellos" from a wide range of people in the cider community is the perfect fit for this milestone episode. Here at Cider Chat Central we hope that this Season opener acts as a reminder that there is a wealth of knowledge at hand at a grass roots level in every region of the US. Of course, this holds true for other countries as well and right about now this reminder...
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Looking back at Season 9 and Forward with Roger Wilkins In this season ending episode we visit Roger Wilkins at his Lands End Farm. Cider King – Roger Wilkins Roger Wilkins, is known globally as the “Cider King,” and is a legendary figure in Somerset cider-making. He has been running Wilkins' Cider Farm in Mudgley since taking over from his grandfather in 1969. Renowned for his traditional methods, Roger ferments locally grown bittersweet apples in oak barrels, producing unfiltered, unsweetened farmhouse cider. His no-nonsense style and commitment to authenticity have made Wilkins'...
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Cider is a fantastic beverage for Thanksgiving, with a range of flavors to suit savory, sweet, and spicy dishes. It’s an ideal alternative to wine or beer, bringing a refreshing acidity and fruit-forward profile that lifts and enhances Thanksgiving flavors. From crisp dry ciders to dessert-ready ice ciders, there’s a pairing for everyone at your table.

Start Thanksgiving with a Cider Aperitif
Opening your Thanksgiving celebration with a light cider aperitif or cocktail helps set a festive mood. Here are a few ideas to get started:
- Lisa Laird CranJack Cocktail
- 1 1/2 oz. Laird’s Straight Applejack
- 4 oz. Club soda
- Cranberry juice
- Slice of lime
- Classic Sparkling Cider: A crisp, dry sparkling cider in a champagne flute makes a refreshing, light aperitif.
- Apple-Ginger Cider Mocktail: Mix sparkling cider with ginger juice and garnish with apple slices for a warming, spiced start to the meal.
Main Course: Turkey and Vegetarian Pairings
Whether your main course is turkey or a vegetarian option, cider brings out the best in savory herbs and seasonings. Here are a few pairing suggestions
For Turkey Lovers
- Herb-Roasted Turkey with Rosemary and Sage
- Pair with: Dry, crisp cider from the Finger Lakes or Vermont.
- Why It Works: The dry cider’s acidity complements the turkey’s rich, savory herbs, offering a light and refreshing contrast to the meat’s natural flavors.
- Recommended Ciders
- Alma Cider - Dry (Washington) (500 mL) 6.2%
- Cockrell Cider - 1783 (Washington) (750 mL) 6.9%
- Farnum Hill Extra Dry Cider (New Hampshire) 750 mL 7.5%
- Smoked Turkey
- Pair with: Barrel-aged cider from California or New York.
- Why It Works: Aged ciders with a smoky, woody profile enhance the bold, smoky flavor of the turkey, creating a complex and satisfying pairing.
- Recommended Ciders
- Bent Ladder Black Gold (Ohio) (750 mL) 8.7%
- Esso Terra Ciderworks Halcyon (Colorado) (750 mL) 7.6%
- Presque Isle Farm 2021 Single Barrel: Esopus Spitzenburg (Michigan) (750 mL) 10%
For Vegetarian Main Dishes
- Mushroom Wellington or Stuffed Acorn Squash
- Pair with: Semi-dry cider from Oregon or Washington.
- Why It Works: The earthy, umami notes in mushrooms or squash pair beautifully with a semi-dry cider, amplifying the savory herbs in these dishes.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Gypsy Circus Cider/ Queen of Swords (Tennessee) (16 Ounce cans) 6% unfiltered medium bodied cider
- Gypsy Circus 2024 Raindancer (16 Ounce cans) 6% 100% locally sourced
- Semi dry ciders can be found in every liquor store that sells cider in the US - buy local and enjoy!
Side Dish Pairings for Classic Thanksgiving Sides
Thanksgiving sides are often seasoned with spices like sage, thyme, and cinnamon. Here’s how cider can enhance these traditional flavors:

- Savory Stuffing with Sage and Thyme
- Pair with: Semi-dry cider with herbal notes.
- Why It Works: A semi-dry cider’s acidity cuts through the richness of stuffing, while herbal undertones bring out the dish’s earthy flavors.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Snowdrift Cider - Red Cider 2023 (500 mL) (Colorado) 7.5% A beautiful deep rosé color courtesy of the redfleshed apples
- Mashed Potatoes and Gravy
- Pair with: Crisp, dry cider.
- Why It Works: A dry cider’s refreshing acidity balances the creamy, dense texture of mashed potatoes and gravy.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Botanist and Barrel 2022 Less is More Wild Ferment Pétillant Naturel (375ml) & (750 mL) Fermented from wild yeast on the apple skins using the Pétillant Naturel technique, subtle minerality, honey notes and racy acidity
- Roasted Brussels Sprouts with Balsamic Glaze
- Pair with: High-acidity, dry cider.
- Why It Works: The cider’s crispness contrasts with the slight bitterness of Brussels sprouts and enhances the sweetness of the balsamic glaze.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Greenbench Webb City's Cellar Northern Spy (Florida) - 6.2% Northern Spy apples fermented dry create this crisp, tart cider.
- Sweet Potato Casserole with Cinnamon and Nutmeg
- Pair with: Sweet, spiced cider.
- Why It Works: Sweeter ciders with notes of cinnamon or nutmeg pick up on the spices in sweet potatoes, adding a warm, cozy feel to the meal.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Botanist and Barrel: Scarlet (North Carolina) (750 mL) & (375 mL) 6.9% - Spiced Winter Rose Cider, made with orange peel, cinnamon, star anise, allspice, cloves, dried ginger, nutmeg.
Thanksgiving Dessert: Sweet Cider Pairings
Finish off your Thanksgiving feast with dessert ciders that enhance the sweet, spiced flavors of classic holiday pies and treats.
- Pumpkin Pie
- Pair with: Ice cider from Vermont or New York.
- Why It Works: Ice cider’s concentrated apple sweetness and acidity balance the spiced pumpkin filling, creating a luxurious, indulgent pairing.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Eden Specialty Ciders Heirloom Blend (Vermont) (375 mL) 10% 15 heirloom apple varieties
- Cider Hill Cellars (Massachusetts) – Winter 12.5% an award winning Ice Cider
- Apple Crisp
- Pair with: Semi-sweet cider with cinnamon notes.
- Why It Works: A semi-sweet cider’s apple-forward profile enhances the baked apple filling, while subtle spices complement the oat topping.
- Recommended Ciders:
- Western Cider (Montana) McIntosh Single Variety Cider (500 mL) 6.7% Montana's Macintosh apples are renown and lend cinnamon notes and spices to to each bottle.
- James Creek Cider House (North Carolina) Winter Solstice Cider (500 mL) 6.0% aged for up to nine months in American oak barrels that were once used for bourbon and brandy and then lightly infused with baking spices
- Pecan Tart
- Pair with: Barrel-aged cider.
- Why It Works: The caramelized, nutty flavor of barrel-aged cider mirrors the rich, sweet flavors of a pecan tart, creating a seamless finish to the meal.
- Recommended Cider:
- Liberty Cider (Washington) 2023 Widdershins Apple (375 ml) 18% A US version of a French Pommeau - barrel-aged at least two years, soft and harmonizing notes of cinnamon, black cherry and vanilla.
- Chocolate Pudding Pie or anything Chocalate?
- Recommended Cider:
- Mega dry cider with rich tannins - The Ross Cider and Perry Company (UK) Bisquet single varietal bittersweet and is crazy good with chocolate!
- Recommended Cider:

Best Ciders to Buy for Thanksgiving
Looking to stock up on ciders for Thanksgiving? Here are a few recommendations to suit each pairing:
- Finger Lakes, NY: Known for high-acid, mineral-rich ciders that pair well with turkey and savory sides.
- New England: From Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island - you can't go wrong! Seek out the semi-sweet and dry ciders for root vegetables and Thanksgiving desserts.
- Oregon & Washington: Earthy, balanced ciders that match vegetarian dishes like stuffed squash or mushroom Wellington.
- Hudson Valley, NY: Tannic ciders that bring complexity to lentil dishes and roasted vegetables.
- California & Virginia: Excellent options for barrel-aged ciders to pair with smoked turkey or pecan pie.
Cider Pairs Perfectly all Year Long!
Cider’s unique blend of acidity, tannins, and natural sweetness makes it the perfect drink to elevate your Thanksgiving feast and really any meal all year long. From bright aperitifs to rich dessert pairings, cider has a flavor for every dish. So this year, why not explore the flavors of Thanksgiving with cider in hand?
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