Cider Chat

Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!

459: The Apple Finch’s Pet-Nats at de Groote Wei Cider | Netherlands 05/14/2025

458: Sodo Sidriné and the Rise of Lithuanian Craft Cider 05/07/2025

458: Sodo Sidriné and the Rise of Lithuanian Craft Cider Donatas Genys didn’t set out to launch Lithuania’s first keeved cider. But after trips to England and Normandy, years of experimentation, and the planting of over 6,000 cider apple trees, that’s exactly what he’s doing. At Sodo Sidriné, located just a few kilometers from the city of Kaunus, Donatas is into a whole new era for cider Lithuania’s cider revival Donatas Genys Cider Culture and Baltic Roots Lithuania has deep agricultural roots, but apple trees which at many of the homes are desired more for eating or making apple wine while vodka and beer under Soviet rule flourished. Note: Lithuania declared its independence from the Soviet Union on March 11, 1990, becoming the first Soviet republic to do so, an act made possible in part by the loosening of Soviet control under Gorbachev’s Perestroika reforms. Donatas is using both local varieties like Auksis and imported cider apples such as Yarlington Mill, Harry Masters Jersey, and Marie Ménard. His orchard-first philosophy ensures every cider is estate grown and rooted in place. Keeving in Lithuania The hallmark of Sodo Sidrine’s offerings is a naturally keeved cider. Donatas showcased his keeved cider at CiderCon 2025 and received a lot of praise from attendees, including this Cider Chat Producer Ria Windcaller. Genys admits it’s the most labor-intensive process, but also the most rewarding. This method yields a semi-dry cider with natural sweetness and long-lasting complexity, a rarity in a country where most consumers only know industrial cider. A New Era for Lithuanian Cider With a production facility nearly complete, Genys is preparing to scale up. His vision includes: Sodo Cider Stainless steel fermentation A small tasting room with potential for expansion Fruit wines and hopped ciders to appeal to a wider audience Apple brandy aged in sherry casks for future release Inside Sodo Sidrine Despite legal gray areas (there’s no craft cider license in Lithuania), Donatas is pushing forward — blending tradition, research, and experimentation with quiet determination. He expects his licensing process to be completed by the summer of 2025. Stay tuned! Contact info for Sodo Sidriné Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat – Mother’s Day Brunch – Live Music, Food Truck 11-2pm /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/36459900

457: Snow Capped Cider: A Family Legacy at 7,000 Feet | CO 04/30/2025

457: Snow Capped Cider: A Family Legacy at 7,000 Feet | CO At the base of Colorado’s Grand Mesa, the world’s largest flat-top mountain, five generations of fruit growers have worked the land. Today, Snow Capped Cider carries on that legacy, crafting estate-grown ciders from fruit nurtured at elevations between 6,130 and 7,000 feet. The high desert sun, volcanic soil, and pure snowmelt water combine to create vibrant apples and distinctive ciders. From Hobby to Heritage What began as a small experiment soon blossomed into a full-fledged cidery. Sparked by a disappointing store-bought cider, Kari Williams and her family leaned into their winemaking background and deep orchard knowledge to create cider reflective of their exceptional terroir. Kari Williams Cider Making at High Elevation At Snow Capped Cider: Only estate-grown fruit is used. Over 100 acres are dedicated to cider-specific apple varieties. The extreme UV exposure at high elevation leads to apples with higher sugars, acids, and tannins, setting the stage for rich, complex ciders. Managing a shorter growing season, spring frost risks, and labor-intensive frost protection methods has shaped their unique approach to farming and fermenting. A Range of Styles Snow Capped produces: 16 canned ciders distributed across four states. 54 distinct bottled ciders, from single varietals like Kingston Black and Harrison to blends featured in the Elevation Series. Botanical infusions and experimental ferments, all handled with precision and passion. Their Gold Rush cider, a blend of French and English apples, showcases the vibrant flavors that their terroir imparts — a naturally complex, award-winning cider approachable for all levels of cider drinkers. Where to Find Snow Capped Cider Ciders are available via: Retail in Colorado, Utah, Idaho, and California Online at VinoShipper Their exclusive cider club offering small-batch, estate ciders. Contact Info for Snow Capped Cider Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tours Keep #ciderGoingUP by supporting this podcast via Season: Categories: , Tags: , , , , /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/36345190

456: From Oregon to Norway: Abram Goldman-Armstrong’s Cider Journey 04/23/2025

456: From Oregon to Norway: Abram Goldman-Armstrong’s Cider Journey This episode of Cider Chat, was recorded in person with Abram Goldman-Armstrong at CiderCon2025 in Chicago. Hear his journey to cider. From growing up in Oregon’s Yamhill County to his current work in Norway’s Hardanger region at Alde Sider. Abram began fermenting cider as a student in Minnesota and went on to found the cidery known as Cider Riot in Portland, Oregon. His experience reflects both the evolution of the cider industry and the challenges of building a business grounded in values and community. The Cider Riot Years Cider Riot grew from a home cider making project into a well-regarded cider brand and pub. Abram describes building the business, navigating challenges like rising rent and market shifts, and the significance of Cider Riot as a political and cultural hub. The pub hosted community meetings, union organizers, and events that reflected Portland’s activist spirit. Standing Against Far-Right Violence On May 1, 2019, Cider Riot became the site of a violent confrontation when members of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, led by Joey Gibson, clashed with patrons during a May Day celebration. The altercation resulted in injuries, including a woman being knocked unconscious. Abram filed a $1 million lawsuit against Gibson and others involved, alleging that they had instigated the attack. The incident drew national attention and highlighted the challenges faced by businesses taking a stand against hate groups. Relocating to Norway After Cider Riot closed in late 2019, Abram accepted an offer to collaborate with cider makers in Norway. He began working with a small brewery before moving west to Hardanger, where he now produces cider at Alde Sider. The region has a long history of apple growing and is the first in Norway to receive a protected designation for cider. In this Cider Chat Early influences in Oregon: Working with Alan Foster of White Oak Cider, planting bittersweet varieties like Kingston Black. DIY beginnings: Making cider in college using apples from the dining hall and a cheese grater. Founding Cider Riot: From garage startup to a full-scale cidery and pub in Portland, Oregon. Pub culture & Portland community: Supporting labor organizing, queer and trans spaces, and anti-fascist events. Financial challenges: Draft-focused sales model, missed retail opportunities, and the impact of hard seltzers. Closure of Cider Riot: Reflections on its cultural significance and decision to shut down in 2019. Move to Norway: Invited to launch a cider program with a brewery in Sandefjord, leading to Tall Ship Cider. Transition to Alde Sider: Current role as lead cider maker in Hardanger, Norway’s key cider region. Hardanger cider traditions: Protected cider designation and historic use of apples like Gravenstein and Discovery. Production methods at Alde: Use of Nottingham ale yeast Chaptalization with Danish beet sugar High-acid juice (~pH 3.1–3.2) Residual sweetness target of 1.003 SG Crossflow filtration to halt fermentation Barrel aging program: Experiments with French agricole rum and Norwegian whiskey barrels. Community cider scene: Five producers in the village of Nå, collaboration across the fjord, and cider tourism via fjord boat. Cultural observations: Comparing pub cultures, lifestyle differences between Norway and Portland. Low-ABV cider innovation: Creating a 4.7% cider for draft sales in collaboration with 7 Fjell Brewery. Use of wild yeast: Petnat-style experiment using orchard yeast and natural inoculation. Future plans: Continuing to explore cider styles in Norway, working with bittersweets, and developing new blends. Contact Info Abram Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat Stone Ridge Orchard Wassail May 3rd & 4th – tickets Episode: /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/36267660

455: Zero Percent Sh*t | John Edwards Returns 04/16/2025

454: Wild Ferment Meets Fine Cider: Inside Oliver’s Barrel Room 04/09/2025

454: Wild Ferment Meets Fine Cider: Inside Oliver’s Barrel Room Rainy Days Goes Best with Dry Cider in the Barrel Room Walking into the barrel room at Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company, you might think you know what to expect. But surrounded by whitewashed stone walls, standing beneath the old Hessian sacking floor, and facing rows of aging barrels, I quickly realized this wasn’t just a cidery—it’s a living, breathing creative space for cider making. Tom Oliver sources fruit both from his farm and from local orchards across Herefordshire. This isn’t an estate cidery where everything is grown on-site—but what sets Oliver’s cider and perry apart is Tom himself. A master blender with an instinct for balance, he brings character to every bottle. And while the farm may not produce every apple, it certainly imparts its own terroir through the land, the barns, and the quiet, purposeful rhythm of the work. Tom and Ria In this Cider Chat Blending Tradition with Innovation Tom is now experimenting with distillation: apple brandy, pommeau-style blends, and barrel-aged perry into brandy too! He’s careful with naming, refusing to call something a “Pommeau” unless it honors French tradition. Barrels sourced from rum, sherry, port, bourbon, and white wine shape each unique blend. Tasting in the Barrel Room In the barrel room We tasted perries straight from the barrel—some from single ancient trees, others blended with gin pears or red pear varieties. Each sip revealed: Confectionary sweetness Banana, melon, pineapple notes Mellow malolactic fermentation This isn’t a showpiece cidery as Tom puts it, “It’s a working farm“, evolving from a hop yard and now cider. Tom calls it “just a part of the agricultural calendar.” No pretense, just purpose. Tom Oliver straddles the line between tradition and experimentation with ease. Whether it’s a single-varietal showcase or a spirit-kissed blend, the goal remains the same: make cider that speaks of time, place, and people. Contact info for Oliver’s Cider and Perry Co. Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat 2025 Totally Cider Tour_UK Edition Send an email to to get on the wait list for the next cider tour! Tom Oliver Featured episodes: /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/36052910

453: Homage to Perry Legends by Tom Oliver at AppleFest | UK 04/02/2025

452: Mac to Redfield: Four Phantoms Brewery Embraces Cider | MA 03/26/2025

452: Mac to Redfield: Four Phantoms Brewery Embraces Cider | MA Drew Phillips opened the doors of Four Phantoms in Greenfield, Massachusetts in 2021. He began his fermentation career in the Pacific Northwest, and while waiting to open his own brewery, he took on the role as cider maker at Artifact Cider Project. Drew Phillips Known for his creative ciders and beers, Drew blends tradition with innovation, sourcing local fruit and experimenting with wild fermentation. Check out on the making of Old Gods . In this episode, Drew shares how Four Phantoms’ unique approach reflects the terroir of Western Massachusetts. Early Challenges of a Brewery/Cidery: Gaining a License Drew initially couldn’t produce cider legally due to licensing restrictions in Massachusetts. After securing a farmer winery license, he started making cider alongside beer and mead. All ciders are crafted from Pine Hill fruit in Colrain, Massachusetts. Signature Ciders and Fermentation Techniques Late Harvest – 6.5% Apples (Spy, Golden Russet and Baldwin) Tamlane – 6% 100% Macintosh apples, aged on black birch wood, giving it a herbal, German liqueur note. Redfield – 7.7% 100% Redfield apples – A red-fleshed apple cider with natural acidity and structure. Chapin’s Waltz – 8.5% A blend of Golden Russet, Baldwin, and Northern Spy, co-fermented with low intervention. King of the Wharf – 7.5% A Mac-based cider aged on rum-soaked oak chips, giving it a smooth, warming finish. Old Gods – 8% Inspired by Finnish farmhouse brewing, fermented on black birch. Listen to on how Old Gods a Co-Fermentation of Wort and Apple Juice was made! Ciders Tasted during this chat Low Intervention and Sense of Place Drew emphasizes low-intervention cider making — no back-sweetening, minimal sulfites, and natural wild cultures. The ciders reflect the unique qualities of Western Massachusetts apples and local wood aging. Poly tanks and oak aging contribute to the distinctive flavors and textures. Community and the Future of Four Phantoms Four Phantoms Tasting Area by the production room Drew values the connection between local agriculture and cider. He sees cider’s future as more craft-focused than beer, with room for independent voices. “Cider resists commercialization,” says Drew. “It’s about sense of place.” Contact Info for Four Phantoms Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat send a request to Cider Chat Cider Rap Song – by in Durango, Colorado /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/35862270

451: Hello Season 10 and The Berkshire Roundtable 03/19/2025

451: Hello Season 10 and The Berkshire Roundtable In this Season 10 premier of Cider Chat, "Introductions" are featured from over 40 persons in attendance at the annual 2025 Berkshire Roundtable. Kicking off Season 10 of Cider Chat The opportunity to begin Season 10 with "Hellos" from a wide range of people in the cider community is the perfect fit for this milestone episode. Here at Cider Chat Central we hope that this Season opener acts as a reminder that there is a wealth of knowledge at hand at a grass roots level in every region of the US. Of course, this holds true for other countries as well and right about now this reminder feels very timely. In Wisdom Lies Hope — hope for sustaining orchard ecosystems, hope that information can be passed on, history can be preserved and through shared learning and collaboration we can all create a better world. We wish you all strength in knowing that so many others are working toward the same goal of stewarding this earth with care and intention. That shared purpose is a source of hope and resilience, even when the path ahead feels uncertain. What is the Berkshire Roundtable? The Berkshire Roundtable is an annual gathering held each March at Stump Sprouts, a rustic retreat center in Buckland, Massachusetts. This event brings together orchardists, cider makers, and industry professionals to exchange ideas and strengthen community ties. Meetings take place over the course of a day and a half, in a large room at the retreat with everyone sitting in a round circle. Berkshire Roundtable group photo New Beginning for the Berkshire Roundtable The Berkshire Roundtable has been taking place for the past 35 years! Micheal Phillips was integral in starting this meetup of orchardist and makers. In 2012, the Holistic Orchard Network (HON) was founded by . His influential book, continues to be sought after by orchardists around the world. Find more of his books at the on this website. Michael passed away unexpectedly while out in his New Hampshire orchard on February 27 2022. Today, HON continues on with leadership from and others. Michael's work is continuing on by his wife Nancy and daughter Gracie Phillips and the HON work today. Gracie and Nancy Phillips Contact Info for HON and Heartsong Farm/Lost Nation Orchard Holistic Orchard Network with Berkshire Roundtable info : Mentions in this Cider Chat Follow MJ in Australia and his cidery Follow Adrian Luna /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/35767305

450th Roger Wilkins - The Cider King 03/12/2025

449: Exploring Hereford’s Museum of Cider with Elizabeth Pimblett 03/05/2025

448: Cider Institute: New Name, New Reach, and More Cider Education 02/26/2025

448: Cider Institute: New Name, New Reach, and More Cider Education The Cider Institute: Training the Next Generation of Cider Makers The Cider Institute, formerly known as the Cider Institute of North America (CINA), is the premier resource for cider education. Founded in 2016 at CiderCon, the Institute focuses on training cider makers of all levels, from beginners to advanced professionals. With a growing global reach, the Institute now offers online and in-person courses, making cider education more accessible than ever. In this episode we speak with the Cider Institute’s Executive Director Brighid O’Keane. Executive Director Brighid O’Keane Core Offerings: Cider Education for All Levels The Cider and Perry Production Foundation Course is the flagship program, covering everything from apple selection to fermentation, chemistry, microbiology, and post-production techniques. This 12-week online course includes weekly Zoom sessions with industry experts, ensuring hands-on engagement even in a virtual format. For those just getting started, the upcoming Cider Making 101 will be a self-directed, beginner-friendly course, introducing enthusiasts to the fundamentals of cider without the deep technical dive of the foundation course. For experienced cider makers, advanced courses cover topics like: Safety & Sanitation – Ensuring proper practices in cider production Sensory Analysis – Understanding cider flavor profiles Laboratory Testing – Learning critical quality control techniques Operations-Focused Hands-On Training – A five-day immersive experience A Global Perspective on Cider Training With increasing international interest, the Cider Institute is expanding worldwide. Upcoming in-person classes for 2025 will be offered at Brock University (Canada), Washington State University, and Virginia Tech, with plans for courses in the UK and beyond. The Institute also runs production tours, fostering knowledge exchange between cider makers across regions. (Left to right) Board Members – Christine Walter, Brighid O’Keane E.D., Nick Gunn, Chris Gerling, Steven Trussler, Nicole Leibon, Dave Takush, Kira Bassingthwaighte Contact Info for the Cider Institute Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat Kordick Family Farm – newsletter sign up at Note the apple pretzels in the tree below – newsletter sign up at /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/35413730

447: Inside the Michigan Cider Association with Executive Director Paula Englin 02/19/2025

447: Inside the Michigan Cider Association with Executive Director Paula Englin Michigan Cider: The Great Cider State with Paula Englin Michigan has earned its place as a leader in the cider industry, boasting the highest number of hard cider businesses in the U.S. In this episode, Paula Englin, Executive Director of the Michigan Cider Association, discusses the state’s growth in cider, the role of education, and how Michigan cider makers are shaping the industry with events like the well known cider competition GLINTCAP – Great Lakes International Cider and Perry competition. MCA Executive Director Paula Englin With nearly 195 cider businesses and a thriving community, Michigan truly is The Great Cider State Growing Michigan Cider: Collaboration & Education The Michigan Cider Association was founded over a decade ago to bring cider makers together, advocate for legislative needs, and expand consumer awareness. Today, the association focuses on education, providing opportunities for cider makers at all levels—from home enthusiasts to large-scale producers. One of the recent big initiatives has been working with the Cider Institute, formely known as the Cider Institute of North America (CINA), to offer subsidized cider education. Michigan cider makers have benefited from foundational courses, cider guide certifications for taproom staff, and marketing efforts that drive cider sales across the state. Mapping Michigan’s Cider Scene Michigan’s unique geography, shaped by the Great Lakes, creates an ideal environment for growing apples. Many cider makers source their fruit locally, often within 30 minutes of their production sites. Here’s how the cider landscape breaks down: To use this Hand Map – Hold up your left hand, palm facing outward, with fingers together and thumb extended—this mimics Michigan’s Lower Peninsula, often called “The Mitten,” with Detroit near the base of the thumb and Traverse City near the tip of your pinky. Metro Detroit (Thumb region) – A hub for orchards and cideries, home to well-known producers. Southwest Michigan (Pinky side of the mitten) – A mix of wineries and cideries, taking advantage of the region’s wine industry crossover. Grand Rapids & the Fruit Ridge (Center of the mitten) – A major apple-growing region supplying cideries statewide. Traverse City (Top of the mitten) – A destination for cider lovers, known for high-quality cider apples and innovative makers. Cider Events That Put Michigan on the Map Michigan’s cider industry thrives on consumer engagement, and events play a major role in getting more people to appreciate and support local cider. (Sparta, MI) – A harvest celebration featuring local apple growers, cider producers, and even an apple peeling contest! (May 9-17, 2025) – A week of cider-focused events, including pairing dinners, tap takeovers, and a board game night at House Rules in Grand Rapids. – Showcasing a variety of Michigan ciders to educate new consumers and cider fans alike. GLINTCAP: Great Lakes International Cider and Perry competition Michigan is also home to GLINTCAP (Great Lakes International Cider & Perry Competition), the world’s largest cider competition. Paula now oversees the event, which continues to grow, introducing a low and no-ABV category for the first time in 2025. One major shift? Judging is now fully digital, improving feedback delivery and accuracy. The competition also expanded international accessibility, making it easier for cider makers worldwide to participate. Contant the Michigan Cider Association Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat to the UK – send an email to to get on the wait list for spots opening on this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 and future cider tours. Letter from Patron Rod – Become a patron of Cider Chat via Stone Ridge Orchard May Wassail – follow on Episode /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/35339150

446: Monica Cohen, the New CEO of the American Cider Association 02/12/2025

445: Unspoken Creed | Stories in Ciderville /Denmark 02/03/2025

445: Unspoken Creed | Stories in Ciderville /Denmark An Unspoken Creed By Sune Kroghansen Enjoy this special Story in Ciderville from Denmark! “Roedding The restart of the cider adventure in Rødding. In the mid-00s, the villagers of Rødding had begun making cider. It faded due to the focus on grafting, planting and nursing the thousands of apple trees in the apple village. In the fall of 2018, focus was about to change again, apple trees was maturing and a decrease nursing left time for something else. Organized by the association: “Æblets by” — “The Apple Village” a congregation was held, 2 score of interested participants met in the community house of the small village of Rødding in Salling. Amongst was participants living close by in the parish, living in the municipality, the region, and a scarce few from far away. The desire to use the apples for more than just planting. Apple juice production was already a major activity in the village, inspiring the entreprenant townsfolks to move further. Creating activity, community and jobs from the apples grown. Those present discussed opportunities of diversifying activities, moving into cider production along with vinegar, jam, jelly. During the fall of 2018 and winter of 2019, the first cider was fermented. Apples from the gene bank Pometet Nursery part of, University of Copenhagen. Was used I these ferments. Inspired by, among others: Andrew Lea, Cider Chat, Cold Hand Winery, University of Copenhagen Department of Plant Sciences. Fermentation and experimentation started with a steep learning curve: Oe, capsules, corks, aglets, disgorging, remuage, tirage, liquere de expedition, brownhat, so2, eggysmell, ester, alcohol taxes, VAT, tankcleaning, oak, food safety control, acid. We tasted, laughed, spit, drank, smelled with a focus on the experience and excitement of the taste experience. We try to greet a new taste or flavour: “I don’t know you, what can you do? What makes you shine?” Of course, everyone has a favorite taste. But experience has taught us. That there is great variation, and “good taste” depends on what the cider is to be used for. The Cider Club meets regularly. Both with a focus on cozy togetherness but also with a focus on technical details, training cider crafting techniques and in taste and sensory. Promoting spreading the joy of fermented apples. I don’t know if the word “Creed” or “credo” was discussed, I don’t think so! however a “spirit” has been underlying everything though unspoken: The unspoken creed It should taste good. It should be as local as possible. It should preferably be in unmanipulated. Although “natural” is a well-worn word. It is the idea/spirit/dream that we should strive to find: The apple or apple cultivars that make good cider. The cultivar should also be able to: Grow on a healthy, unpruned, untended tree, where we live. They should be easy to press into apple juice. The juice should ferment alone without adding anything other than time. It should be able to keep without any other preservation than a lid. It may be construde as a naive dream that does not abide into modern production society, nor does it fit efficient agriculture. And probably not even practically possible. So there have been deviations from the idea along the way. Mostly to follow the first part of the unspoken creed: “it must taste good” Like a vanilla bean, that tastes fantastic but is not particularly widespread growing in the Danish landscape. So if kakifruits, sulfur, sugar, oak, pineapple, oranges, erythritol, lactose, pasteurization, elderflowers. Are necessary to achieve “good cider” then so be it. The Cider Club is a spirit, and a loose part of an international movement of cider from pure apple juice. We strive to include everyone, and avoid selfishness, selfsufficientness. We are not signers of the “New Nordic Food Manifesto of 2004” but looking back it has influenced us tremendously. With a mixture of epicurean joy of life and the joys of the table. Sustainable thinking and naive optimism. The best we can do, each thing in its own time. BUT we originate from the village of apples so the foundation is the diversity of the old apple cultivars. The hope is to, create something people will choose to enjoy. And It should be fun along the way. Without ruining anything for the world of tomorrow. Wasalling!” Have a story to tell for the “Stories in Ciderville” segment? Must be 3000 words or less or under 4 audio minutes Apples and pommes must be integrated into the story line Send your essay and a recording of yourself reading your essay to Mentions in this Cider Chat to the UK – send an email to to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/35135220

444: Worleys and Honey’s: Somerset Cider Makers 01/29/2025

443: Cider’s Single Varietal Capital | Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Co. 01/22/2025

443: Cider’s Single Varietal Capital | Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Co. Albert Johnson on Ross on Wye Cider & Perry Offerings This is the 3rd time we have featured Albert Johnson because it is always a treat to hear about the happenings at Ross on Wye Cider and Perry. In particular, we catch up on the accommodations on site for visitors and of course the wide range of single varietal ciders. Albert Johnson In this Cider Chat Visitor Experiences and Accommodations Discussion on camping, bed & breakfast options, and orchard chalets. Includes details on the Yew Tree pub and its offerings. Cider Offerings and Unique Styles Explanation of single varietal ciders, dry cider philosophy, and production techniques. Events and Festivals Highlights of monthly cider clubs, Ciderganza, Summertime Soiree, and the Ross Cider Fest. Cider Pairing Insights Recommendations for pairing cider with specific dishes, including creamy pastas, fish, and spicy curries. Social Media and Community Engagement Albert’s approach to outreach via tastings, social media, and fostering personal connections. Future Plans and Challenges Focus on growth strategies, challenges in the UK cider market, and maintaining the unique identity of Ross on Wye. Conclusion and Final Thoughts Reflection on the importance of community, passion for cider, and welcoming visitors to Ross on Wye. B&B Breakfast by Aunt Hillary at Broome Farm B&B Event Calendar at Ross Starts the Thursday after the August Bank Holiday (varies yearly, e.g., August 28 in 2025). : Easter weekend. Contact for Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company Yew Tree Pub, Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Co. Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat to the UK – send an email to to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 | Colorado Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat Past Episodes with Albert Johnson /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34947850

442: Bob Cork: 40 Years in Cider | Shepton Mallet, England 01/15/2025

442: Bob Cork: 40 Years in Cider | Shepton Mallet, England Bob Cork’s Cider Career Bob Cork Bob Cork has 40 years of experience in cider making, starting in 1980. Initially an apprentice engineer, he transitioned to cider making, thanks to his engineering background. He now works as a cider-making consultant, still contributing to the legacy of Showering Cider Mill. The Evolution of Showering Cider Mill and Babycham Entrance to Showering Mill Showering Cider Mill, made an undeniable mark for a perry called Babycham. The mill has evolved over the years, modernizing its equipment while maintaining traditional cider-making techniques. During the production of Babycham, horizontal tanks for producing this widely popular drink. At the time they were laid outside and eventually a buidlign was built around the tanks. The Shepton Mallet Cider Mill is the second largest mill in the UK and over the years it expanded to include a variety of ciders, while continuing to produce Babycham, the popular Fever brand and today a traditional cider called Showering Triple Vintage. The Traditional and Modern Blend: The Triple Vintage Matthew, Daniel, Jonathan Showering and Ria Windcaller The Triple Vintage cider, created by the Showerings blends three vintages to produce a high-quality product. Bob Cork in this episode discusses how it is made using bittersweet and bittersharp apples, fermented with a wee bit of natural yeast and then a cultured yeast. The cider is matured to achieve a balanced, high-quality cider. Key to the cider-making process, is low-temperature fermentation and controlled maturation. Bob Cork’s Advice for Aspiring Cider Makers Bob advises aspiring cider makers to approach the craft with passion, as it requires significant investment and a long-term commitment. He emphasizes the importance of a solid business plan and understanding the market’s cyclical nature. Despite the challenges, he believes in the future of cider, with increasing consumer interest in high-quality, craft ciders. Mention in this Cider Chat Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat to the UK – send an email to to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 Wassail episode: episode /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34858605

441: Wilding Cider and the Rural Method | Somerset, UK 01/08/2025

441: Wilding Cider and the Rural Method | Somerset, UK Wilding Cider, founded by Sam and Beccy Leach in 2019, uses Regenerative farming practices and a “rural method” to cider making. Based in Somerset the culinary skills of Sam blend with Beccy’s Sommelier palate. Their dedication to traditional orchards and natural fermentations has led to the creation of their standout orchard based ciders and perrys. This process sets Wilding apart, showcasing a commitment to purity, sustainability, and the land. Beccy and Same Leach The Orchard at Wilding Size & Scope: 7.5 acres at the home orchard and additional rented orchards. Varieties: Kingston Black, Stoke Red, Porter’s Perfection, and so many more. Regenerative Practices Sam in the home orchard The orchards provide the perfect environment for Wilding’s cider-making, ensuring low-intervention fermentations that align with the Rural Method philosophy. What is the Rural Method of Cider Making Sam credits Skyborry cider in Wales for coining the phrase “rural Method”. He explains in this chat that at Wilding Cider Rural Method is an energy-efficient, traditional approach to crafting naturally sweet ciders. It utilizes: Cold Winter Fermentations: Utilizing natural temperatures to slow fermentation. Low Nitrogen Content: Achieved by using unfertilized orchards for balanced fermentations. Minimal Intervention: Avoiding filtration, sulfites, or pasteurization. This method produces clean, complex ciders that capture the essence of Somerset orchards. Signature Wilding Ciders and Perry Wilding Cider showcases the Rural Method through their unique blends and single varietals: Symphony: A bittersweet blend. Comics: Multi-orchard cider built on Browns and Yarlington. Single Varietals: Stoke Red and Kingston Black. Perry Cider: Carefully macerated to achieve depth and balance. These ciders are celebrated for their balance of tannins, acidity, and natural sweetness, hallmarks of the Rural Method. Contact and how to find Wilding Cider Website: Open Days: Second Saturday of the month, April through September. UK: Independent shops and restaurants. International: Belgium, Japan, and limited availability in the U.S. Mentions in this Cider Chat Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat to the UK – send an email to to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34760910

440: Jane Peyton Keynote |Hereford AppleFest Banquet 01/01/2025

440: Jane Peyton Keynote |Hereford AppleFest Banquet Jane Peyton, author of The Philosophy of Cider and founder of the School of Booze, brings her deep knowledge of cider and its cultural history to the forefront in this enlightening conversation. Jane Peyton at Hereford AppleFest Banquet 2024 Key Points Covered Cider’s Cultural Significance The apple as a symbol in global traditions and languages. Historical mentions, from Norse mythology to Captain Cook's voyages. Defining Cider Cider is pressed, not brewed, differentiating it from beer. Diverse expressions of cider, from tannic and dry to sweet and fizzy. The Legacy of Susanna Forbes A heartfelt tribute to Susanna Forbes' impact on the cider world. Jane’s Philosophy on Cider Advocating for better representation of cider on menus. Mainstream vs. artisanal cider perspectives. The School of Booze Jane’s initiative to educate on cider, beer, and more. Her work as a writer and accredited pommelier. Highlights from the Philosopher of Cider Recommended Reads and Tastings: The Philosophy of Cider and Jane’s other publications. Examples of cider diversity, including champagne-method ciders. Memorable Quotes: “Slow cider is sunlight in a glass, the liquid expression of the orchard's soul.” “Cider is not apple beer—it’s pressed, not brewed.” Ciders and Perries Mentioned: Little Pomona’s offerings Ross on Wye ciders Contact for Jane Peyton Website B.A. Summers novels & Mentions in this Cider Chat Hereford Applefest 2024 film - Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat to the UK - send an email to to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34671970

439: The Night Before the Holiday Pressing 12/24/2024

439: The Night Before the Holiday Pressing The magic of Ciderville awaits you. In this special holiday episode, Cider Chat invites you to step into the enchanting world of the Talking Pommes. The Night Before the Holiday Pressing is more than just a story—it’s a celebration of all things pome, community, tradition, and the joy that comes with every glass of cider. The cider house hums with anticipation as Ria, Perry Pear, Mr. Quince, and the Medlars prepare the night before their annual pressing. But as every year before there is always magic in the air for Ciderville. With the Talking Pommes truly anything can happen and so it does! With snow blanketed orchards, and just the right amount of “Believe” a sleigh pulled by apples glides through the starry sky. Raise a glass and join us on this festive adventure—because in Ciderville, the magic is always just a sip away. Meet the Stars of the Cider House This holiday episode of Cider Chat brings together some of Ciderville’s most delightful characters: Apple: The vibrant leader with a twinkle in their eye. The Medlars: Sweet, quirky, and always ready with a witty remark. Mr. Quince: The wise and slightly stern elder who keeps everyone on track. Perry Pear: Full of charm and flair, a natural performer. A Wide Assortment of Pommes: From Dabinett to Kingston Black, they bring their unique personalities to the mix. The Gift of Holiday Cider Magic This story is for anyone who cherishes the magic of the season. As Apple says, “Every glass of cider holds a story, and this one’s for you.” From Cider Chat to all of Ciderville, we hope this episode brings joy to your holiday season. Raise a glass, gather ‘round, and join the Talking Pommes and Ria in Ciderville! Mentions in this Cider Chat Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat to the UK - send an email to to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34578540

438: The Secret Sauce to Cider's Growth is #XPromoteCider 12/18/2024

438: The Secret Sauce to Cider's Growth is #XPromoteCider The Recipe for #xpromotecider Collaboration isn’t just a buzzword—it’s the recipe for growth. In this episode of Cider Chat, we explore how the #xpromotecider campaign over the course of 2024. What is #xpromotecider? The #xpromotecider campaign started as a way to encourage cider brands and enthusiasts to cross share episodes of Cider Chat so that Cider Chat could in turn share news about their brand. The end goal was to help educate cider fans about the resources and how-tos of cider making Brands and fans were invited to repost Cider Chat episodes and/or download the informative Cider Chat.pdf and then tack it to a bulletin board in a tasting room. Why Cross-Promotion is the Secret Ingredient Cross-promotion isn’t just about visibility—it’s about creating a shared identity for the cider industry. Here’s why it matters: Building Regional Destinations Regions like the Finger Lakes, Michigan, and Normandy have become cider tourism hotspots because of collaborative efforts among cideries. By promoting each other, these regions attract visitors and grow collectively. Reaching New Audiences Sharing others’ stories helps introduce cider to new audiences who might not otherwise explore it. Cross-promotion creates opportunities to educate and inspire potential fans. Strengthening Community Bonds When cider makers work together, it fosters a sense of unity that resonates with consumers. People want to support an industry that feels connected and supportive. The Risks of Staying Isolated or not cross promoting Isolation may seem like the safer route for some, but it comes with risks: Missed Opportunities: Without collaboration, regions miss out on tourism and media exposure. Industry Stagnation: Staying focused only on individual brands limits the industry’s potential to grow and attract new customers. Disconnection: Consumers are less likely to engage with a fragmented industry that doesn’t show unity. By embracing cross-promotion, cider makers can avoid these pitfalls and contribute to a stronger, more vibrant community. Spotlight on Cider Champions Throughout the year, many individuals and brands have stepped up to embrace #xpromotecider. Here are just a few examples: @ciderexplorer consistently reshared weekly episodes, helping to spread the word. Cider makers downloaded and posted the Cider Chat PDF to engage their audiences and connect with their local communities. To see the full list of contributors, check out the YouTube version of this episode, where we showcase screenshots of posts from the past year. And stay tuned to our social media for more highlights! How to Join the Cross Promote Campaign Ready to get involved? Here are a few ways to join #xpromotecider: Share this blog post or the podcast episode with your audience. Use the hashtag #xpromotecider in your posts and tag your favorite cider brands. Download the Cider Chat PDF and display it in your tasting room to encourage guests to learn more about cider. Together, we can grow the cider community into 2025 and continue to build a stronger, more connected industry. Join the fun and start cross-promoting cider today /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34489540

437: Parting Cheers with CEO Michelle McGrath of the ACA 12/11/2024

437: Parting Cheers with CEO Michelle McGrath of the ACA After 8 Years at the helm Michelle McGrath is switching gears Michell McGrath Michelle McGrath, CEO of the American Cider Association (ACA), reflects on her impactful leadership, the growth of the cider industry, and her next chapter. In this episode, Michelle shares insights into her journey, upcoming transitions, and the exciting plans for CiderCon 2024 in Chicago. Key Milestones at ACA Membership Growth: ACA membership has significantly increased during Michelle’s tenure. CiderCon Success: The premier U.S. cider conference continues to thrive, with growing attendance and international collaborations. Sustainability Focus: Initiatives that support cider makers, orchardist/farmers and sustainability were central to ACA’s strategy. What’s Next for Michelle Michelle will be transitioning to as Columbia Basin Program Director. This nonprofit focuses on land use practices that protect watershed health and salmon populations. Her passion for collaboration and supporting farmers continues to guide her work. Up Coming Highlights for CiderCon 2025 Chilean cider tastings and sessions on the country’s apple heritage. A session on soil health by Ashley Lindsay, a pomological expert from Oregon State University. Tastings featuring Porter’s Perfection cider and quince cider varieties. Networking opportunities and workshops for cider makers worldwide. A Call to Action for the Cider Community Michelle encourages more diversity and representation in cider leadership roles, especially for women. She invites anyone interested in joining the ACA board or participating in industry initiatives to step forward and work with the board of directors. Contact Info for the American Cider Association Website: Mentioned in this Cider Chat CiderCon2025 Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat #xpromoteCider – Tips of the glass to the following brands! Do follow them on instagram! British Columbia -Denmark cider club Vermont restaurant and cidery campaign page /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34369630

436: Handpicked Cider Gift Guide for the Holidays 12/04/2024

436: Handpicked Cider Gift Guide for the Holidays Finding the perfect gift for the cider lover in your life just got easier. Whether you’re shopping for seasoned cider enthusiasts, budding cider makers, or thoughtful gift givers looking to impress, this guide has everything you need to celebrate the holidays with cider. From curated picks with our Cider Chat partners to tools and tips for home fermenters, we’ve got you covered. Top Cider Gifts from the Cider Chat Partners The following brands are part of the #ciderGoingUP Campaign. Become a partners today at the page! 1. Ross Cider and Perry | Herefordshire Explore a variety of ciders and perries from one of the most esteemed cideries in the UK. Perfect for those who love rich tradition and bold flavors. 2. DuckChicken Cider | London Find distinctive ciders crafted in small batches, ideal for the adventurous cider drinker. 3. SpaceTime Mead and Cider Works | Pennsylvania Browse their innovative blends that bridge the worlds of cider and mead. 4. EsoTerra Ciderworks | Colorado Gift fine ciders that showcase the terroir of the American Southwest. 5. Tattiebogle CiderWorks | Pennsylvania Closed till December 20th Give the gift of anticipation with a Tattiebogle gift certificate—perfect for cider fans eager to try their unique offerings. 6. Bent Ladder | Ohio Purchase ciders or gift certificates online to share a taste of Ohio’s finest. 7. Press Then Press Discover curated cider gift packs from a variety of top producers. 8. Oliver’s Cider and Perry | Herefordshire Dive into premium ciders and the newly touted perry selection for a true taste of Herefordshire. 9. InCiderJapan Explore unique Japanese ciders, offering a fresh perspective on the craft. 10. American Cider Association CiderCon swag showcases pride in this powerhouse organization 11. Locust Grove Brewery…and Cider! | New York Gift Card Certificates and Growlers to-go! 12. Heeman’s Cellar | London, Ontaria From gardening and orchard workshops to cider and mead online, this Ontario based family owned enterprise has a bevy of cider gifts! Gifts for the Aspiring Cider Maker For those who dream of crafting their own cider, these thoughtful gifts will kick-start their journey. Cider Maker’s Starter Kit Download the to build a custom gift pack with essential tools. Pair the equipment with a box of fresh cider apples for an unforgettable gift. Books for Every Skill Level Head to the for resources ranging from beginner guides to expert cider-making tips. Consider books on orchard care, apple varieties, or rare fruits like medlars and sorbs domestica to deepen their knowledge. Cider Chat Swag for the Holidays Support your favorite cider podcast “Cider Chat” and surprise your cider-loving friends with some exclusive swag. Where to Shop: Tips: Order a size up for a perfect fit, and if the t-shirt isn’t quite right, simply reorder for free! Why Cider is the Perfect Gift Cider is more than just a drink—it’s a story of tradition, craftsmanship, and community. By gifting cider or cider-related items, you’re sharing a piece of this heritage with friends and loved ones. This holiday season, shop thoughtfully and enjoy the process of picking gifts that celebrate the world of cider. And don’t forget to check out the for more cider tips, stories, and inspiration. Support Cider Chat: The Gift That Keeps on Giving For the cider lover who already has it all, consider a meaningful and impactful gift by supporting the work of Cider Chat. Make a Donation Help keep the cider community thriving by making a one-time donation to Cider Chat. Your contribution supports the podcast, cider stories, and educational content that bring the world of cider to life. Become a Cider Chat Patron Visit the and sign up as a patron. Choose a tier that matches your budget and enjoy exclusive perks like behind-the-scenes updates, early access to episodes, and more. This gift not only shows your appreciation for cider culture but also ensures that Cider Chat continues to inspire and connect cider enthusiasts around the globe. Pro Tip: Pair this donation or patronage with a physical gift, like a Cider Chat t-shirt or mug from the , for a thoughtful and well-rounded present. Mentions in this Cider Chat CiderCon2025 Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat #xpromoteCider – Tips of the glass to the following brands! Do follow them on instagram! – Dunmore, Pennsylvania of Abilaget Garden Projects home cider maker – Herefordshire, UK -Denmark cider club Netherlands – Washington campaign page /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34274805

435: 5-Star Cider Dining with Eric Bordelet 11/27/2024

435: 5-Star Cider Dining with Eric Bordelet Episode Summary: A 5-Star Cider Experience Step into an unforgettable 5-star cider dining experience with Eric Bordelet, one of the world’s most acclaimed cider and perry makers. Recorded during an intimate cider dinner as part of the French Cider Tour 2024, this episode offers an extraordinary glimpse into Eric’s legacy and his passion for crafting exceptional ciders. From his renowned gastronomic cuvées to his philosophy on terroir and tradition, listeners will enjoy a behind-the-scenes look at what makes Eric’s work legendary. In this Cider Chat Episode Eric’s philosophy of terroir and its impact on crafting ciders and perrys. The art of creating cuvées, including sweet, demi-sec, and brut varieties. The revival of rare traditions like cormé cider (sorbus domestica). The importance of biodynamic orchard care and sustainable practices. Insights on aging cider and perry for complexity and balance. Behind the Scenes of an Intimate Dinner Recorded during a private dinner in Normandy, this episode captures the essence of 5-star cider dining. As Eric poured his celebrated ciders and perrys, he shared stories of his sommelier roots, the influence of terroir, and his vision for cider-making’s future. It’s a rare opportunity to learn from one of the world’s top cider makers in a truly personal setting. More Eric Bordelet Episodes on Cider Chat Eric and Ria Contact Info for Eric Bordelet Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat CiderCon2025 Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat #xpromoteCider – Tips of the glass to the following brands! Do follow them on instagram! – Alberta Canada of Abilaget Garden Projects – California campaign page /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34168785

434: Elevating Cider with a Michelin-Starred Chef 11/20/2024

434: Elevating Cider with a Michelin-Starred Chef Exploring Cider’s Role in Fine Dining In this episode of Cider Chat, we sit down with Chef Ivan Vautier a Michelin-starred chef from Normandy, France, to discuss his approach to pairing cider with food and incorporating it into his dishes. Normandy, as a region is renowned for its cider, Calvados and Pommeau. As such it offers a unique perspective on how this traditional beverage is used in high-end cuisine. Ivan Vautier But does cider get the attention it deserves in fine dining? The answer might surprise you. While this Michelin Chef Vautier highlights some classic applications, like poaching foie gras in cider, the conversation reveals a deeper challenge: even in cider’s heartland, it appears that cider's potential remains under appreciated in haute cuisine. Key Takeaways from a Michelin-Starred Chef Traditional Uses of Cider: Chef Vautier shared his method for preparing foie gras terrine poached in cider, complemented by a semi-dry cider pairing. While a delightful tradition, it underscores the entrenched view of cider as a regional staple rather than an innovative culinary element. Critique of Heavy Cuisine: He addressed the overuse of cream in Normandy dishes, advocating for lighter preparations that let cider’s acidity and flavor shine—a refreshing perspective for modern palates. Missed Opportunities: The chef noted that cider could rival champagne as an aperitif. To create this new vision for cider, Chefs both in France and world wide must be called upon to rev up a sense of enthusiasm and vision to champion this transformation. Cod and Dupont Cidre pairing A Call to Action for the Cider Community This episode highlights the need for cider enthusiasts and producers to work together to elevate cider's status in fine dining. Here are some ideas discussed: Cider Education for Chefs: Host tastings and workshops to showcase cider's complexity and versatility, inspiring chefs to integrate it more deeply into their menus. Collaborative Menus: Develop cider-focused tasting menus and co-create signature ciders tailored for specific cuisines. Inspiring Innovation: Highlight cider's potential as a lighter, fresher alternative to traditional ingredients like cream or wine in sauces and reductions. Elevating Cider’s Image: Serve cider in elegant glassware and market it as a sophisticated aperitif to attract fine dining audiences. Engaging the Culinary World: Partner with culinary schools, host cider-focused food festivals, and celebrate chefs who innovate with cider through awards and recognition. Dessert at Ivan Vautier Why This Matters Cider is more than just a beverage—it’s a bridge between tradition and innovation. This episode sheds light on the barriers holding cider back in fine dining and offers actionable steps to move forward. By working together, producers and enthusiasts can inspire chefs to see cider not just as a drink, but as a transformative ingredient worthy of the world’s finest tables. Cider Dinner at Ivan Vautier Contact info for Ivan Vautier Website: Address: Subscribe and Share Enjoyed this episode? Don’t miss more conversations like this! Subscribe to Cider Chat on your favorite podcast platform, and share this episode with friends who love cider and fine dining. Support Cider Chat: Your support helps keep these conversations flowing! Visit to learn how you can help. Mentions in this Cider Chat CiderCon2025 Promo Code - Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you'll reach a section in the form that says "additional registration information" and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat #xpromoteCider - Tips of the glass to the following brands! Do follow them on instagram! - Alberta Canada of Abilaget Garden Projects - California campaign page /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/34018817

433: The Ultimate Cider Pairing Guide for Thanksgiving 11/13/2024

433: The Ultimate Cider Pairing Guide for Thanksgiving Why Pair Cider with Thanksgiving Dinner? Cider is a fantastic beverage for Thanksgiving, with a range of flavors to suit savory, sweet, and spicy dishes. It’s an ideal alternative to wine or beer, bringing a refreshing acidity and fruit-forward profile that lifts and enhances Thanksgiving flavors. From crisp dry ciders to dessert-ready ice ciders, there’s a pairing for everyone at your table. Start Thanksgiving with a Cider Aperitif Opening your Thanksgiving celebration with a light cider aperitif or cocktail helps set a festive mood. Here are a few ideas to get started: Lisa Laird CranJack Cocktail 1 1/2 oz. Laird’s Straight Applejack 4 oz. Club soda Cranberry juice Slice of lime Classic Sparkling Cider: A crisp, dry sparkling cider in a champagne flute makes a refreshing, light aperitif. Apple-Ginger Cider Mocktail: Mix sparkling cider with ginger juice and garnish with apple slices for a warming, spiced start to the meal. Main Course: Turkey and Vegetarian Pairings Whether your main course is turkey or a vegetarian option, cider brings out the best in savory herbs and seasonings. Here are a few pairing suggestions For Turkey Lovers Herb-Roasted Turkey with Rosemary and Sage Pair with: Dry, crisp cider from the Finger Lakes or Vermont. Why It Works: The dry cider’s acidity complements the turkey’s rich, savory herbs, offering a light and refreshing contrast to the meat’s natural flavors. Recommended Ciders - Dry (Washington) (500 mL) 6.2% - 1783 (Washington) (750 mL) 6.9% (New Hampshire) 750 mL 7.5% Smoked Turkey Pair with: Barrel-aged cider from California or New York. Why It Works: Aged ciders with a smoky, woody profile enhance the bold, smoky flavor of the turkey, creating a complex and satisfying pairing. Recommended Ciders (Ohio) (750 mL) 8.7% (Colorado) (750 mL) 7.6% (Michigan) (750 mL) 10% For Vegetarian Main Dishes Mushroom Wellington or Stuffed Acorn Squash Pair with: Semi-dry cider from Oregon or Washington. Why It Works: The earthy, umami notes in mushrooms or squash pair beautifully with a semi-dry cider, amplifying the savory herbs in these dishes. Recommended Ciders: (Tennessee) (16 Ounce cans) 6% unfiltered medium bodied cider (16 Ounce cans) 6% 100% locally sourced Semi dry ciders can be found in every liquor store that sells cider in the US - buy local and enjoy! Side Dish Pairings for Classic Thanksgiving Sides Thanksgiving sides are often seasoned with spices like sage, thyme, and cinnamon. Here’s how cider can enhance these traditional flavors: Savory Stuffing with Sage and Thyme Pair with: Semi-dry cider with herbal notes. Why It Works: A semi-dry cider’s acidity cuts through the richness of stuffing, while herbal undertones bring out the dish’s earthy flavors. Recommended Ciders: (Colorado) 7.5% A beautiful deep rosé color courtesy of the redfleshed apples Mashed Potatoes and Gravy Pair with: Crisp, dry cider. Why It Works: A dry cider’s refreshing acidity balances the creamy, dense texture of mashed potatoes and gravy. Recommended Ciders: & (750 mL) Fermented from wild yeast on the apple skins using the Pétillant Naturel technique, subtle minerality, honey notes and racy acidity Roasted Brussels Sprouts with Balsamic Glaze Pair with: High-acidity, dry cider. Why It Works: The cider’s crispness contrasts with the slight bitterness of Brussels sprouts and enhances the sweetness of the balsamic glaze. Recommended Ciders: (Florida) - 6.2% Northern Spy apples fermented dry create this crisp, tart cider. Sweet Potato Casserole with Cinnamon and Nutmeg Pair with: Sweet, spiced cider. Why It Works: Sweeter ciders with notes of cinnamon or nutmeg pick up on the spices in sweet potatoes, adding a warm, cozy feel to the meal. Recommended Ciders: (North Carolina) (750 mL) & (375 mL) 6.9% - Spiced Winter Rose Cider, made with orange peel, cinnamon, star anise, allspice, cloves, dried ginger, nutmeg. Thanksgiving Dessert: Sweet Cider Pairings Finish off your Thanksgiving feast with dessert ciders that enhance the sweet, spiced flavors of classic holiday pies and treats. Pumpkin Pie Pair with: Ice cider from Vermont or New York. Why It Works: Ice cider’s concentrated apple sweetness and acidity balance the spiced pumpkin filling, creating a luxurious, indulgent pairing. Recommended Ciders: (375 mL) 10% 15 heirloom apple varieties an award winning Ice Cider Apple Crisp Pair with: Semi-sweet cider with cinnamon notes. Why It Works: A semi-sweet cider’s apple-forward profile enhances the baked apple filling, while subtle spices complement the oat topping. Recommended Ciders: (500 mL) 6.7% Montana's Macintosh apples are renown and lend cinnamon notes and spices to to each bottle. (500 mL) 6.0% aged for up to nine months in American oak barrels that were once used for bourbon and brandy and then lightly infused with baking spices Pecan Tart Pair with: Barrel-aged cider. Why It Works: The caramelized, nutty flavor of barrel-aged cider mirrors the rich, sweet flavors of a pecan tart, creating a seamless finish to the meal. Recommended Cider: (375 ml) 18% A US version of a French Pommeau - barrel-aged at least two years, soft and harmonizing notes of cinnamon, black cherry and vanilla. Chocolate Pudding Pie or anything Chocalate? Recommended Cider: Mega dry cider with rich tannins - (UK) Bisquet single varietal bittersweet and is crazy good with chocolate! Best Ciders to Buy for Thanksgiving Looking to stock up on ciders for Thanksgiving? Here are a few recommendations to suit each pairing: Finger Lakes, NY: Known for high-acid, mineral-rich ciders that pair well with turkey and savory sides. New England: From Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island - you can't go wrong! Seek out the semi-sweet and dry ciders for root vegetables and Thanksgiving desserts. Oregon & Washington: Earthy, balanced ciders that match vegetarian dishes like stuffed squash or mushroom Wellington. Hudson Valley, NY: Tannic ciders that bring complexity to lentil dishes and roasted vegetables. California & Virginia: Excellent options for barrel-aged ciders to pair with smoked turkey or pecan pie. Cider Pairs Perfectly all Year Long! Cider’s unique blend of acidity, tannins, and natural sweetness makes it the perfect drink to elevate your Thanksgiving feast and really any meal all year long. From bright aperitifs to rich dessert pairings, cider has a flavor for every dish. So this year, why not explore the flavors of Thanksgiving with cider in hand? 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432: Ancha Gergely’s Abaliget Garden Projects | Hungarian Cider Maker 11/06/2024

432: Ancha Gergely’s Abaliget Garden Projects | Hungarian Cider Maker Bringing Cider to Hungary: The Story of Abaliget Garden Projects In this episode of Cider Chat, we learn about the southwest Hungary, where Ancha Gergely is building Abaliget Garden Projects, her small-scale cidery focused on Hungarian apples, pears, and centuries-old varieties. Ancha’s journey began in England, where she developed a love for cider. For Hungary it appears that there is little known about cider or cider making, prompting her to craft her own. Ancha Gergely With a deep passion for apples and heritage varieties, Ancha started her orchard in 2018 by grafting local and English varieties onto Hungarian rootstock. Her husband’s contribution of English cider apple graft wood expanded the orchard significantly, leading to her current collection of 600 apple and pear varieties. Ciders at Abaliget Orchard Projects Ancha crafts unique Hungarian ciders that highlight the region’s apple diversity. Some of her featured ciders include: Fishti – A smoky cider aged in a Speyside whiskey barrel, offering mellow whiskey notes balanced with local apples. Birs is the Hungarian work for Quince – This is a 100% quince cider with a delicate sweetness Abaliget Garden’s Quince Cider Back label of Birs – Quince Apple Varieties at Abaliget Garden Abaliget Garden includes a mix of English, Hungarian, and other European varieties. Here are a few notable apples in her collection: Kanizsai – A classic Hungarian apple with a sweet profile Húsvéti Rozmaring – Known for its rosemary scent, this apple can keep until Easter Various Perry Pears – 20 different types from the UK, bringing unique flavor profiles for perry production Cider Making Techniques at Abaliget Ancha’s approach to cider-making combines traditional fermentation methods with her unique orchard composition, balancing Hungarian and English influences. In addition to cider, her nursery serves as a source for new Hungarian cider makers, offering heritage and cider-specific apple trees. Contact Info for Abaliget Garden Projects Website: Mentions in the Cider Chat – Arboretum Initiative of Abaliget Garden Projects ciders and perry /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/33806582

431: Domaine Johanna Cécillon's Elegant Ciders | Brittany FR 10/30/2024

431: Domaine Johanna Cécillon's Elegant Ciders | Brittany FR Discovering Domaine Johanna Cécillon: A Journey of Cider, Heritage, and Terroir Johanna Cécillon and her husband, Louis Cécillon, have deep ties in the world of fermented drinks, and are now merging their wine heritage with cider-making in Brittany. Domaine Johanna Cécillon, near Dinan, honors family tradition and innovation through biodynamic farming methods. Established on family land from the 1800s, Johanna brings a refined approach to cider, embracing natural processes that reflect the land’s unique terroir. Louis and Johanna Cécillon Biodynamic Practices and Natural Fermentation At Domaine Johanna Cécillon, the orchard is certified biodynamic, preserving the ecosystem and producing exceptional quality fruit. Johanna practices natural fermentation, using no added yeasts or sulfites to allow the true flavor of each apple variety to shine. A dedication to biodynamics reflects Johanna’s commitment to safe farming practices for the entire ecosystem - people, animals, plants and the environment. The Ciders of Domaine Johanna Cécillon Poiré – 5% A delicate pear cider, or "poiré," that combines subtle tannins with a soft, dry finish. Aged for two years, it boasts a complex minerality, capturing the terroir of Brittany with every sip. Divona – 5% This cider is crafted from acid-forward apples, bringing a refreshing minerality and gentle sweetness. With a very low bitterness, Divona offers a light and dry profile that balances softness with crisp fruit notes. Toutatis– 7% Aged in Saint Joseph wine barrels, Tutatis is an innovative cider with rich oak flavors that enhance its complexity. This cider features subtle hints of white wine, bringing an added layer of depth and sophistication to the apple-forward character. Taranis – 8% Taranis is a blend of perry and cider and aged in Syrah barrels, offering an amber hue and distinctive, refined tannins. Nerios – 5% Nerios is a tribute to the traditional cider-making heritage of Brittany. Made from heritage apple varieties, it has a robust tannic profile, warm amber color, and offers a classic, rustic flavor with layers of depth and a lingering finish. Contact Info for Domaine Johanna Cécillon Domaine Johanna Cécillon welcomes visitors by appointment to experience the ciders firsthand and enjoy a tranquil orchard tour. Purchase is available on-site, or find their ciders internationally. Website: Mentions in this Cider Chat Support Cider Chat via on your web browser - Mike Biltonen on Biodynamic Orchard Care /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/33676097

430: Blending Cider Tradition with Modernity: Cidrerie Manoir du Val 10/23/2024

430: Blending Cider Tradition with Modernity: Cidrerie Manoir du Val Innovation at Cidrerie Manoir du Val: Blending Tradition and Modernity Located in Normandy’s Pays de Risle, Cidrerie Manoir du Val and with maker Marie Bourut at the helm s crafting innovative ciders with a nod to tradition. With Marie’s husband Thomas Courtoux., this couple has transformed a historic orchard. From pioneering the production of Blanc Cider (white cider) to fermenting with Sorbus Domestica via the distinctive La Cormé Cidre, the duo’s approach is reshaping the way we think about Normandy cider. In this Cider Chat Arnould Nazarian helped connect Cider Chat with Marie and was on hand during this interview and helping with the translation. Arnould’s hobby is both finding Sorbus Domestica trees and sharing his affection for this magical fruit. Listen to his two Cider Chat’s Innovations in Cider-Making at Manoir du Val One of the standout ferments at Cidrerie Manoir du Val is the development of La Cormé Cidre, a cider made with the unique Sorbus Domestica tree. This rare fruit imparts a complexity and depth of flavor that sets it apart from more traditional apple-based ciders. Marie and her husband have also crafted Blanc Cidre, a white cider made by halting the oxidation process to create a fresh, clear cider that pairs perfectly with seafood and light dishes. La Corme Cidre More Innovation! To support the orchard’s demanding harvest, Marie’s husband, Thomas, designed and built a custom machine called the Delorian. This tricked out tractor picks up apples from the ground, dramatically speeding up the harvesting process and reducing the need for manual labor. The Ciders of Cidrerie Manoir du Val Pink Cider (Rosé) – Made from red-fleshed apples like La Rouge du Val, this vibrant cider is a sweet, fruit-forward offering with a stunning hue. La Cormé Cider – This unique cider is made with a blend of apples, pears, and the rare Sorbus Domestica fruit, bringing a balance of tartness and complexity. Note: Arnould and his mother Charlotte pick all the Sorbs used Ciderie Manoir du Val. Blanc Cider – A white cider that stands out for its clarity and crispness, perfect for pairing with seafood. The lack of oxidation during pressing keeps the cider fresh and bright- hear how this is done in the episode. There is also Calvados, Pommeau, Fresh Pressed Apple Juice and Poiré Apple Varieties at Manoir du Val Cidrerie Manoir du Val’s ciders are made from a carefully selected range of apple varieties, each chosen for its unique contribution to the cider-making process. Some of the key varieties include: La Rouge du Val (Red-fleshed apple) – name after the estate La Petit Jaune (Acidic variety) Chlorono (Sweet variety) Doux Vérets de Carrouges (Sweet variety) Benit Rouge & Douce Moen (Bitter Sweet) Fréquin Rouge & Marie Menard (Bitter variety) The Delorian – apple picker upper Where to Find Cidrerie Manoir du Val Ciders Cidrerie Manoir du Val products are sold both at their farm store and in various locations throughout the Paris region, including: If you’re ever in Normandy, visiting the cidery is a must — not only for the ciders but also for a closer look at their innovative approach to cider-making. Contact for Cidrerie Manoir du Val Website: Address: Stay Updated with Cider Chat To learn more about innovative cider makers like Marie Bourut and stay informed on the latest episodes of Cider Chat, subscribe to the podcast and the Cider Chat YouTube channel. By subscribing, you’ll be notified of upcoming episodes that focus on cider-making, so you won’t miss any of the exciting stories from the world of cider. /episode/index/show/ciderchat/id/33571117

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