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467: Canton Apples and Frosty Twig: New York Cider Makers Unite

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Release Date: 08/13/2025

484: Rethinking American Cider History with Patrick McCauley show art 484: Rethinking American Cider History with Patrick McCauley

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Meet Patrick McCauley, a Michigan-based cider maker and researcher, who is questioning some of the most common myths about American cider history. What Patrick uncovers is a far more regional, farm-based, and resilient cider story than the usual “cider died because of Prohibition” narrative.   00:00 Introduction to Cider and Prohibtion 00:23 Meet the Host and Guest 01:56 Listener Support and Community 04:51 Cider Salon Hungary, Uk & French Cider Tour 08:03 Featured Conversation with Patrick McCauley 10:25 Cider Production and Historical Insights 14:48 Regional Cider Production in...

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479: New York Cider Fest | Audio Snapshots show art 479: New York Cider Fest | Audio Snapshots

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478: Pommeau: What Happens When a French Classic Lands on U.S. Labels show art 478: Pommeau: What Happens When a French Classic Lands on U.S. Labels

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What is Pommeau? Pommeau is a: fortified blend of fresh apple must (unfermented) and apple brandy (typically Calvados in Normandy or Lambig in Brittany). The unfermented apple juice and brandy are combined before fermentation, which halts the process entirely and preserves natural sweetness. By law in France, Pommeau must be aged a minimum of 18 months in oak and produced within designated regions. It’s rich, amber-colored, and served as an apéritif. It is consider to be a French heritage drink shaped by decades of refinement and protected standards. When did...

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475: At the UK’s National Perry Pear Centre and the Story Behind 99PINES show art 475: At the UK’s National Perry Pear Centre and the Story Behind 99PINES

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Perry making has deep roots in Gloucestershire, stretching back to the 17th century when French wine imports were cut off during the Napoleonic Wars. Local farmers turned to their own fruit, and the rich soils around Hartpury proved ideal for growing Perry pears. This episode features audio snapshots from the 2025 Totally Cider Tour stop at the National Perry Pear Centre. Our guide, Phil Kester, volunteers with 99PINES , where he helps preserve the region’s rare Perry pear varieties. Phil’s passion for Perry and deep local knowledge made this visit one of the...

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How Canton Apples and Frosty Twig Fused Two Brands into One

In New York’s “North of Upstate” region, in the town of Canton is the Canton Apples production building. It is now also home of a partnership shaping the local cider scene. Owner Joel Howie and cider maker Dan Gallagher live just a mile apart, and their skills mesh perfectly. Joel brings over a decade of experience growing apples, pressing sweet cider, and creating value-added products. Dan, a passionate fermenter, was ready to move beyond hobby scale when the two connected.

Two Brands, One Vision

Under Canton Apples & Cider, LLC, two product lines take shape:

  • Canton Apples – approachable, consistent ciders for everyday enjoyment.
466 oel Howie in the Apple storage room at Canton Apples Frosty Twig
Joel Howie
  • Frosty Twig – small-batch, specialty ciders showcasing unique apples, fruits, and wild fermentation.
467 Dan Gallagher on the apple bins at Canton Apples and Frosty Twig
Dan Gallagher

Production takes place in a purpose-built facility designed for growth, with future plans for a taproom overlooking the orchard.

Orchard Practices & Apple Diversity

Between their combined orchards, Joel and Dan care for over 250 apple varieties — many planted by Bill McKentley of St. Lawrence Nurseries. These heritage and cold-hardy apples thrive in Zone 4, and every apple grown is put to use. When supplies run short, apples are sourced from other New York regions.

Cider Making Approach

Ciders range from wild-fermented pet-nats to cultured yeast ferments for consistency. Specialty ciders include

  • Turkey Tree
  • Wild Berry
  • Pear cider

Most ciders age 9–10 months before release, allowing flavors to develop naturally.

466 Canton apples cider and Frosty Twig Cider series
Canton Apples cider and Frosty Twig Cider series

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