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Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Release Date: 10/01/2025
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
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info_outlineIn this interview, Cody Sperber real estate investing meets sales strategy, mentorship, and funnels for business scaling. Cody shares how he went from Navy service to ASU, to flipping his first wholesale deal, and eventually building and selling Clever Investor while co-founding new companies like Floor Daddy.
You’ll learn why mentorship beats hustle, how to build grit, and why most entrepreneurs fail by chasing too many things at once. We also break down Cody’s funnel strategy that drove over $120M in online education sales, and how real estate investing mentorship and systems changed his life.
Chapters
(00:00) Cody Sperber’s Start in Real Estate Investing
(05:20) Struggles, Debt & the Mentor Who Flipped the Switch
(10:22) First $40K Deal, Chip on the Shoulder & Momentum
(15:42) Mentorship, Masterminds & Authentic Selling in Real Estate
(20:38) Systems, SOPs & Scaling a Real Estate Education Business
(25:37) Funnels, Hard Sales & $120M Online Education Model
(30:24) Culture, Team Buy-In & Avoiding Entrepreneur Mistakes
(36:42) Events, Masterminds & Cody’s Next Chapter
Originally recorded October 2024 but brought back from the vault because the insights are as relevant today as ever.
Connect with Cody Sperber
Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialcodysperber
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@cleverinvestor
Floordaddy: https://floordaddy.com/
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org
Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112
More Free Resources
Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup
Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52