The Psychology of Influence & How To Win Every Sale with René Rodriguez
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Release Date: 12/10/2025
Why Most People Stay Stuck And Others Pull Ahead with David Carpenter | EP 405
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Something isn’t adding up. You’re putting in the work… but the results aren’t matching.
In this episode, Jeremy Miner sits down with David Carpenter, a top sales leader with AO Globe Life, part of an organization that generated over $178 million in sales last year, to break down what actually separates the people who stay stuck from the ones who quietly pull ahead. This is about how top performers think, what they focus on, and why most people stay trapped in patterns that never
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What Separates Elite Closers From Amateurs with Anthony Vizzari | EP 404
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
The sale usually dies the moment the prospect feels like you are trying to sell them. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Anthony Vizzari, VP of Growth at 7th Level, to break down why the best closers do not rely on pressure, fake rapport, or recycled scripts. Anthony shares how thousands of calls trained him to spot buyer patterns instantly and how identity shapes performance long before skill ever shows up on the call.
They also get into early event f
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Why Small Wins Beat Big Goals In Fitness And Business with Greg O Gallagher | EP 403
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Most people fail their fitness goals for the same reason they fail in business. They chase massive results instead of mastering the small inputs that actually compound. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Greg O Gallagher, founder of KinoBody and one of the leading voices in lifestyle driven fitness.
Greg explains why most people are not actually training, why progressive overload beats extreme workout plans, and how stacking small wins builds confiden
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Turning Viral Attention Into Sales Income With Spencer Kozej | EP 402
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
He smashed his own Lamborghini windshield in the middle of Miami to go viral. But that is not why he is winning. Spencer Kozej is a life insurance sales leader who built a virtual sales brand after dropping out of college and moving to Florida. He now recruits and develops young sales professionals by teaching communication, branding, and discipline. In this episode, Spencer explains how your environment shapes belief, why mastering sales guarantees leverage for life, and how to use attention strategical
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Persuasion vs Convincing And Why It Changes Everything with Myron Golden | Replay
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Selling feels hard when you think your job is to convince people. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Myron Golden, sales expert, business coach, and stage speaker known for helping entrepreneurs produce multi million dollar results, to talk about why persuasion and convincing are not the same thing. Myron shares how he went 18 months without making a single sale before learning how identity, belief systems, and service change everything in the sales process. They talk about why objections are usually created before they are ever spoken, how to become...
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Building Scalable Digital Businesses with Yash Daftary | EP 400
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Most founders think success comes from having the right idea. Yash Daftary learned early that it comes from knowing how to sell, persuade, and build trust at scale. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Yash Daftary, founder of FanBasis, a digital commerce platform powering creators, entrepreneurs, and online businesses selling products, services, and memberships worldwide. Yash breaks down why his company pivoted away from celebrity-driven fan experiences, what he learned from watching real operators outperform big names, and why payment systems and customer...
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A New Generation of Sales Pros with Juliano Massarelli | Ep 401
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Most people get told “no” and spiral. Giuliano Massarelli gets told “no” and turns it into content, attention, and sales. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Giuliano Massarelli, known as The Wolf of Insurance, to break down how he sells life insurance through his DMs, why he posts at extreme volume to stay omnipresent, and how he built momentum fast by treating selling like a skills game. They talk tonality, verbal pacing, using energy to control emotional states, and the simple mirror and smile habit that changes how you sound on the phone. If you...
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Why Experience Is The Ultimate Business Differentiator with Icon Becker | EP 399
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Information is everywhere, which means it no longer separates you from your competitors. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Icon Becker, founder of Klevr Events, a global events company that has fulfilled over 100 events, served thousands of attendees, and generated over $11M for clients from the stage. Icon breaks down why experience has become the only real value add left in modern business, how small details can cost companies massive opportunities, and why live, in
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Profit Over Revenue: The Scaling Reality Most Founders Ignore with Tommy Mello
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Revenue looks impressive. Profit is what keeps you in the game. If your business only runs when you are in the building, you are not scaling, you are surviving. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Tommy Mello, CEO of A1 Garage Door Service, a home service operator who has scaled to 700 employees across 20 states and is pushing toward $220M in revenue. Tommy breaks down the real difference between chasing growth and building a profitable company with systems, leadership, and the right people in the right seats. You will learn why profit beats revenue, how to...
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Why Most People Never Escape Average with Michael Bernoff
Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Most people believe that getting better skills, habits, or information is what leads to growth, but that belief is exactly why so many stay stuck at average. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Michael Bernoff, bestselling author of Average Sucks and an expert in human behavior, communication, and influence.Michael breaks down why identity and language, not effort, are what drive long-term results, how internal mental frames quietly control decisions, and why people often live the life they have instead of the life they want. This conversation explores how...
info_outlineMany salespeople lose the deal long before they speak, because the brain decides whether to trust you in seconds. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner talks with René Rodriguez, bestselling author, keynote speaker, and expert in applying behavioral neuroscience to real-world sales situations. René explains why 93% of communication happens before the words leave your mouth, how tonality and body language trigger either safety or resistance in the brain, and how elite salespeople use framing, storytelling, and emotional tie-downs to guide a prospect’s thinking without pressure. If you want to master human behavior, prevent objections before they happen, and sell the way the brain naturally buys, this conversation covers it all.
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:10) René’s Background in Neuroscience and Selling Change
(07:26) How the Brain Makes Decisions (and Why Buyers Resist Change)
(11:00) Tonality, Threat Detection, and the 93% Rule
(14:52) Body Language, Congruency, and Subconscious Cues
(20:11) How Elite Salespeople Prevent Objections (Not Handle Them)
(26:12) Storytelling, Framing, and the Tie-Down Formula
(33:58) Using Hand Gestures, Tone, and Presence to Increase Trust
Connect with René
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/learnwithrene/
Website: https://www.meetrene.com/
Amplify Your Influence Book: https://www.amplifybook.com
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755
Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/
Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist
Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112
Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer
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