From Conconully to the USS Benfold or “Small Towns and Big Principles” - Ep 119
The Defiance and Obedience Podcast
Release Date: 03/06/2026
The Defiance and Obedience Podcast
We are happy to welcome Jubal Marlatt, of Jubilee Clinics, back to the show to provide an update of the clinic and its operations. We are thankful for him and Dr. Marks as they both are bringing this operation to life in our area but it might be what America needs, at scale. Also stay tuned for some good boy-raising, 20-20 insight. Brews: Squatch Tracks Pastry Stout by Great Notion Barrel-Aged Even More Jesus BBS by Evil Twin
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Ian explains why he has a beef with eagles? This gets us on a rabbit trail about predator hunting - COYOTES… mostly. We get to our main topic which is discussing how we can raise kids to love their people and be ok with other people - like submitting to other authorities, dealing with other kids with different standards and maybe even other authorities with different standards! Evangel Classical Fundraiser Feast: May 15th @ 5:30 Brews: Even More Irish Jesus Irish Stout by Evil Twin Even More Xmas Imperial Stout by Evil Twin
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Are things getting worse in WA State for those that want to raise a family, start a business, be productive and flourish?! Perhaps this is the case - but it should not dampen our efforts to lean into training our children up in the way that they should go. We might touch on some topics that induce some laughter as well - which is GOOD. Brews: Mango Fluff Tart Ale by Great Notion Brewing Not Getting Any Younger Triple IPA by Vice Beer
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We touch on the how people are reacting to the podcast name change, some more Flock camera discussion and other updates. We then take a dive into the life and politics of Abraham Lincoln as well as the modern issue of machine guns in Kentucky. All this and more on Episode 120 of the Defiance and Obedience Podcast! Brews: Monotony Barleywine by Irrelevant Beer Big Bad Baptist Cherry Bliss by Epic Brewing
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What do Conconully, WA and a book on leadership have to do with each other?! This episode of course! Coming off our awesome interview with Dean Pakinas last episode, we take a step back and reminisce on some local PNW places as well as discuss some principles from the book “It’s Your Ship” by Michael Abrashoff. The laughter is free. You're welcome. Brews: Melipona BBA Stout by OldSchoolhouse Brewery (out of Winthrop, WA) Beneath Covered Bridges Imperial Stout by Wayward Lane Brewing and Timber Ales
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This week we are joined by Dean Pakinas from Swans Trail Farms. We hear about his life story as a father, wrestling coach and now, full time farmer (and still, father ;). We really enjoyed this discussion and hope you do as well! Brews: Apple Pie Sour by Claim 52 Brewing S.S.B. BBA Imperial Stout by Skookum Brewery
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From ICE walkouts to parenting cues, this episode correlates what is happening on a more national level, with what we might be seeing on a local level. Are you paying attention to markers in your children’s behavior? When you see issues, do you first think of what you can be doing differently? We tackle all this (and more) on this fresh episode of welding defiance and obedience into one inseparable whole! Brews: Maltings Irish Ale by Sullivan Brewing Company Speedway Stout Chocolate Pecan Pie Edition by Alesmith Brewing
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In this episode we do a deeper dive into the issues going on with Minneapolis - or rather one of the issues. It’s hard to say whether the immigration enforcement or the rampant fraud are bigger issues. We discuss issues relating to the Second Amendment, what’s legal vs what is wise, and many other issues that the Alex Pretti shooting brings out. Brews: Chronocask BBA Imperial Stout by Skookum Brewery Darker Persuasion Pastry Stout by Icicle Brewing
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After we pour a beer, we get into what is happening in Minnesota with the ICE-related shootings and how that story has been developing. Do you occasionally take a left on a red arrow? We discuss our thoughts on that. Ha. The primary topic we dive into is indicators that maybe your children don’t feel freedom to make their own decisions - even on trivial matters. As they get older, they need space to start making good - and bad - decisions on their own so you can help train them up before their leave your home. What are those indicators? Beers: Double Stack Imperial Stout with Coffee...
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Josh has a dream and feels compelled to share it with the listeners. We discuss the brewerys in the area that have a change of ownership. We also discuss how to help our children avoid pitfalls we might see in their future based on their frame and strengths or weaknesses. How do you do that without condemning them to that fate before those specific pitfalls arise? We also give some of our initial thoughts on the first “major” ICE shooting incident from a few weeks ago. Brews: Woodsman Porter by Ferment Brewing Company Joyfully Stuf’T Imperial Barrel-Aged Stout by Prairie Artisan...
info_outlineWhat do Conconully, WA and a book on leadership have to do with each other?! This episode of course! Coming off our awesome interview with Dean Pakinas last episode, we take a step back and reminisce on some local PNW places as well as discuss some principles from the book “It’s Your Ship” by Michael Abrashoff. The laughter is free. You're welcome.
Brews:
Melipona BBA Stout by OldSchoolhouse Brewery (out of Winthrop, WA)
Beneath Covered Bridges Imperial Stout by Wayward Lane Brewing and Timber Ales