What the Growing Political Divide Means for Your Business with Gabrielle Juliano-Villani - Group Practice (R)evolution
Conversations With a Wounded Healer
Release Date: 10/01/2025
Conversations With a Wounded Healer
Group practices are changing fast—and the legal stakes are rising. This episode unpacks the employment risks, structural tensions, and workplace dynamics shaping the future of therapist employment. This realignment impacts you whether you’re a group practice owner OR a therapist staffer. If you take only one lesson away from my conversation with Lori Goldstein, award-winning employment lawyer, let it be this: If you’re not sure, then ask a lawyer. Common group practice legal issues include: Misclassification: 1099 vs W-2 Therapists Non-Competes & Non-Solicits in Work...
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If therapists can’t feel, they can’t help. Christian Snuffer dives into psychedelics, spirituality, and the future of therapy—and why curiosity and compassion matter more than any modality. We met on Instagram and immediately bonded over, well, everything! While every tangent in this episode is just so compelling, three topics really reinforced my belief in the future of psychology and the clinicians who are dedicating themselves to its evolution: self-compassion - for the twisty journeys that bring many of us into this field and home to our own healing coachability - old...
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What if the biggest problem in therapy is therapists who haven’t done their own work? Jamie Marich explores recovery, spirituality beyond religion, and why no modality, guru, or system can replace embodied healing. I love show-and-tell as a teaching method, especially because it emphasizes the importance of therapists doing their own work. Dr. Jamie Marich is the perfect participant. They have a substantial catalog of “personal artifacts” to share: growing up inside evangelical Christian nationalism recovery from addiction and participation in AA processing their queerness in an...
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Frank Gruba-McCallister on why therapy is political, compassion is nonnegotiable, and healing must include social change. If I had to choose one episode to light my way through the collapse of capitalism, it would be this conversation with Frank Gruba-McCallister. Truth is, there’s no escaping the darkness of our current timeline. That said, there are dozens of reasons to remain hopeful, and thousands of people (like Frank) fanning the flames of optimism. There’s also hella work to do individually and collectively. The end of capitalism will come whether we act or not. Frank offers...
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How Kristen Wynns built an award-winning practice without insurance dependence and with a good dose of humor. Group practice owners have a decision to make right now: continue treading water or get more creative in how they operate. The field of therapy is lucky to have many examples of group practice owners who embody innovative leadership. One of those is my “conference bestie”, Dr. Kristen Wynns, author, speaker, and founder of Wynns Family Psychology. Three things practice owners take away from this conversation: You’re the owner, not the micromanager. How you delegate tasks,...
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Are therapists ready for the next era of healing? Dr. Caroline Fernandes on complex trauma, mediumship, and what the therapy field has to learn from the spirit world. I’m spinning all the hits on this episode: grief, ghosts, and the energetic shifts that happen when we incorporate the spiritual into processing personal, cultural, or systemic wounds. That’s little “s” spirituality, not the patriarchal-sponsored kind. The addition of spirituality is important in light of my conversation with Dr. Caroline Fernandes. She’s a holistic psychotherapist specializing in complex trauma,...
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In this special 9th birthday episode of Conversations With a Wounded Healer, Sarah Buino and Lane Essex explore healing at every level—from individual mental health to group practice dynamics and systemic transformations in the therapy field. What does it mean to sustain a therapy career in these challenging times, while embracing authentic and clinical leadership approaches that foster collective healing and healthy organizations? This episode offers insight for therapists interested in evolving their practice and creating meaningful change within mental healthcare systems. Learn how...
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A funeral director turned therapist on meaning-making, unfinished business, and why grief needs more truth and less cheerleading. Ready for a life-affirming episode about death? I’m excited to introduce you to my longtime friend Rachel Hauck. She’s a funeral director and embalmer. After 20 years in business, she’s decided to go back to school to become a therapist. I love chatting with people who are in midlife career shifts. Why did she make the switch? How will her previous career shape her identity as a therapist? What sets this conversation apart from the hushed, almost...
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When the world is burning, old business paradigms collapse—here’s what replaces them. Self-assessment time. For group practice owners: Do your internal systems align with the company’s client-facing messaging? For group practice employees: Is fear (of failure, of retaliation) holding you back from calling out harmful behaviors or leaving altogether? Alicia Murray, LMHCD, is the creator of Therapist HQ, a digital platform for therapists ready to transition into entrepreneurship. I invited Alicia to discuss how group practice employees can protect themselves against extractive...
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Trauma-informed leadership, psychological safety, and accountability in group practice culture. The TL;DR takeaway from today’s episode is: to change the systems and institutions harming us, we must commit to the work. All of it, the intra- and interpersonal. Poonam Natha can help us with this assignment. She views “the work” as a lifelong process of balancing individualism and collectivism rather than choosing one over the other. Poonam’s nuanced opinion is rooted in her lived experience as the eldest daughter of immigrant parents and a self-described cycle-breaker. GUEST BIO...
info_outlineI'll start by stating the obvious. Being a group practice owner or group practice therapist in "unprecedented times" is a challenging endeavor. Our people and profession are struggling under the pressures of late-stage capitalism, antagonistic politics, and rage-bait algorithms —the same forces that affect our clients. I'll follow up the obvious with a hard truth. Some of the ills are coming from inside the house, er, practice.
I believe in the good and essential aspects of the group practice model. I also believe that the only way out is through. And together. As does Gabrielle Juliano-Villani. She's a business mindset coach and consultant who helps therapy practice owners scale, sell, and thrive without burning out.
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Gabrielle Juliano-Villani is a business mindset coach and consultant who helps therapy practice owners scale, sell, and thrive without burning out. After successfully selling her own 7-figure group practice, she now combines her clinical expertise as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with proven business strategies to help other practice owners create sustainable success.
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