Conversations With a Wounded Healer

Who’s a wounded healer? It’s any one of us who works in a caring profession and is bravely doing their own work, while helping others. My goal is to share the parallel journey we as healers walk along with our clients and how we attend to our own humanity while caring for others. My podcast is about conversations and community building, what we can learn from each other, and how we can help heal each other. We’re cultivating a space where we celebrate vulnerability, authenticity and “showing up.” It’s a place to meet people I think will inspire you, help you heal and grow – and who you can relate to at the same time. I’m inspired by C.G. Jung’s “wounded healer” concept, where the healer’s own hurt that gives the measure of his own power to heal. Another one of my heroes, Brene Brown, puts it best: “Mindfully practicing authenticity during our most soul-searching struggles is how we invite grace, joy and gratitude into our lives.” Together, I hope this marriage of vulnerability and professionalism will inspire and entertain you...enjoy!

324 - The Fall of the Traditional Therapist (and What’s Next) with Josie Rosario 08/12/2026

324 - The Fall of the Traditional Therapist (and What’s Next) with Josie Rosario What if the future of therapy asks clinicians to stop checking their humanity at the door? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: There’s a gap between the world we were trained for as therapists and the world we find ourselves in now. And here to explore that gap with compassion, curiosity, and a dose of reality is relational therapist, writer, mentor, and founder of Venus + Legacy, Josie Rosario. Keep listening if you are curious about: The evolving role of the therapist to meet the needs of today’s clients Therapists doing their own healing work and examining one’s relationship to power as essential parts of becoming an effective clinician, Spirituality, the wounded healer, and the future of psychotherapy including faith and hope amid social and systemic collapse, and a possible return to the therapist as a more relational “village healer” rooted in community rather than positioned above it. “We have been trained to kinda check our humanity at the door a little bit,” Josie says. But what happens when clients are increasingly hungry for what’s real? Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/42398635

323 - The Therapists’ Toolkit for Challenging Times | Sarah Buino Live at the Revolutionary Practice Summit 08/05/2026

323 - The Therapists’ Toolkit for Challenging Times | Sarah Buino Live at the Revolutionary Practice Summit What if the biggest challenge facing therapists isn't burnout… but evolution? In this special bonus episode, Sarah shares her keynote from the inaugural Revolutionary Practice Summit, exploring why therapists must evolve—not just professionally, but personally—to meet the realities of practicing in today's world. Drawing from trauma theory, developmental psychology, leadership research, systems thinking, and her own experience as a therapist and group practice owner, Sarah offers a compelling vision for the future of psychotherapy. Rather than asking therapists to simply become more resilient, she invites us to expand our capacity for complexity, uncertainty, and collective care. In this keynote, Sarah explores: Why therapists must do their own work The hidden cost of pathological empathy Why self-care alone isn't enough Organizational trauma and unhealthy workplace cultures Vertical development and therapist maturity The "meta-crisis" shaping mental health today Power, leadership, and the future of psychotherapy Why healing must happen at the individual, organizational, and systemic levels Whether you're a therapist, supervisor, practice owner, social worker, or graduate student, this keynote is an invitation to imagine what our profession could become—and the role each of us plays in creating it. Get $50 off with code: SpeakUp50 Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/42322110

Group Practice After Capitalism? with Donna Sky, Project Equity - Group Practice (R)evolution 07/29/2026

322 - The Ethics of Taking Politics into the Therapy Room with Jordan Conrad 07/22/2026

322 - The Ethics of Taking Politics into the Therapy Room with Jordan Conrad Can therapists ethically work with clients whose values oppose their own? Sarah Buino and Jordan Conrad explore professionalism, self-disclosure, political identity, and the future of psychotherapy in an increasingly polarized world. Is therapy political? That's a good question and one that provokes an array of answers (just peruse any therapists' Facebook group). I've talked with a decent number of therapists who possess vastly different political views than their clients. Every one of these compassionate providers mentions how difficult it is to hold space for healing amid political discord. Enter Jordan Conrad, PhD, LCSW, a psychotherapist, researcher, and the founder and clinical director of Lexington Park Psychotherapy in NYC. Jordan is an accomplished clinician and author, and his work explores difficult topics in the philosophy of medicine, neurodiversity, and psychotherapy. He's also an excellent sparring partner on the subject of ethics in therapeutic spaces. Let's get ready to (verbally) rumble! Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/42159020

321 - Dissociative Identity Disorder Is a Brilliant Adaptation with Sally Maslansky 07/15/2026

321 - Dissociative Identity Disorder Is a Brilliant Adaptation with Sally Maslansky What therapists often misunderstand about DID, childhood trauma, shame, attachment, and the therapeutic relationship—with psychotherapist and author Sally Maslansky. **If you find conversations about childhood sexual abuse activating, please take care with this episode. Although our discussion doesn’t contain explicit details, abuse is a central theme.** Because hindsight is 20/20, allow me to add a bit of self-evaluation to this conversation with Sally Maslansky, LMFT, my emotionally wise and accomplished guest. Sally is a licensed psychotherapist, speaker, consultant, and author of A Brilliant Adaptation: How Dissociative Identity and the Therapeutic Bond Saved Me. Her work centers on the power of relationship, the complexity of the mind, and the possibility of healing even in the aftermath of profound childhood trauma. Sally's life and career can serve as proof that people with dissociative identity disorder (DID) can heal. Here are three points to take away from this discussion: DID truly is a superior survival adaptation. It generally develops in response to attachment wounds sustained in childhood. Shame––not the feeling that we’ve done something bad but that we are bad––is a bummer! The more we can build capacity to identify the implicit or explicit shame-based lessons of our childhood, the closer we get to connecting with ourselves and each other. Therapists can (and should) “meet” their patients’ dissociated states. With proper training and supervision, these interactions can become part of a compassionate reintegration process. “Therapy,” concludes Sally, “is a collaborative venture.” I agree. It’s not about needing to fix; it’s about accountability and liberating ourselves from trauma. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/42095795

320 - Practicing Therapy in a World on Fire 06/24/2026

320 - Practicing Therapy in a World on Fire Why therapists must do their own work: leadership, integrity, and the future of therapy with Sarah Buino and Lane Essex. We made it! To the middle of 2026. I realize that’s a bit of a good-news/bad-news scenario given the current political climate. Still, the fact that we’re all here is something worthy of celebration. Or, at the very least, reflection. Where do we, as therapists, want to grow next? How do we get there? I literally cannot fathom any other solution for how we evolve the profession, get better at running businesses, or treat each other and our clients than by working on ourselves. So let’s talk about: The future of therapy and therapist leadership Why self-work is foundational to ethical practice Group practice ownership and accountability The challenges of building a consulting business Integrity as a professional competency Community, belonging, and the role of thought leadership in uncertain times Cheers to more growth in the second half. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41742905

The Hidden Cost of Leadership: Sarah Buino on Lonely at the Top 06/17/2026

The Hidden Cost of Leadership: Sarah Buino on Lonely at the Top Sarah reflects on selling her therapy practice, surviving burnout, and discovering that healing sometimes means walking away. This week we're sharing a conversation that originally aired on Rachel works with CEOs, founders, executives, and high performers navigating the emotional weight of leadership, so it makes sense that this conversation was about one of the most transformative—and painful—chapters of my professional life. In this episode: Why leadership can become profoundly lonely—even when you're surrounded by people The hidden relationship between trauma, workaholism, and burnout Navigating residential treatment and recovery during COVID What suicidal ideation can reveal about feeling trapped and overwhelmed Why asking for help may be one of the most important leadership skills we develop If you've ever felt trapped by success, isolated by leadership, or overwhelmed by the pressure of holding everything together, I hope this conversation reminds you that you're not alone and that healing doesn't require perfection. Originally aired on in 2025. Special thanks to Rachel Alexandria for hosting valuable conversations about leadership, vulnerability, and what it really costs to carry responsibility. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41654795

Ordinary Trauma, Agency & the Myth of Being Okay: Sarah Buino on The Unburdened Leader 06/10/2026

Ordinary Trauma, Agency & the Myth of Being Okay: Sarah Buino on The Unburdened Leader Sarah and Rebecca discuss trauma culture, healing, political consciousness, and building the capacity to stay present with life's messiness. This week, we're sharing a conversation originally recorded in 2024 for with my friend and colleague, Rebecca Ching. Truthfully, this felt less like an interview and more like one of those conversations you have with someone who speaks the same language you do. We talk about what I call ordinary trauma—the relational wounds that often go unnoticed because they're so common—and why reclaiming our agency is essential to healing. We also dive into the dangers of quick-fix solutions, the importance of mindfulness, and what it means to lead from values rather than fear. In this episode: What "ordinary trauma" is and why it often goes unrecognized The relationship between agency, personal power, and healing Why the pursuit of being "okay" may be the wrong goal The dangers of trauma oversimplification and quick-fix culture How leadership, politics, values, and healing are deeply interconnected Have you ever wondered whether healing is supposed to feel easier by now? Then this conversation is for you. Originally aired on The Unburdened Leader podcast in 2024. Special thanks to Rebecca Ching for creating a space for nuance, curiosity, and honest conversation. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41581075

The Courage to Do Your Own Work: Sarah Buino on The Innovative Therapist 06/03/2026

The Courage to Do Your Own Work: Sarah Buino on The Innovative Therapist Chronic shame, developmental trauma, healing in community, and why the future of therapy depends on therapists embracing their own growth. This week, we're sharing a conversation originally recorded for What started as a typical podcast interview quickly became a conversation that helped me better understand my own work (thank you very much!) We talk about how chronic shame disconnects us from our agency, why therapists need to be honest about power dynamics, and what happens when we stop trying to "arrive" at healing and instead embrace the lifelong journey of becoming. In this episode: Why personal power and agency are essential to healing from developmental trauma How therapists unintentionally recreate harmful power dynamics in therapy and workplace settings The connection between chronic shame and self-abandonment Why therapists must prioritize their own healing work How creativity, play, spirituality, and community can become powerful pathways to transformation If you've ever felt frustrated by the limitations of traditional therapy, exhausted by workplace dynamics, or curious about what authentic healing really looks like, I think you'll find something meaningful here. Originally aired on podcast in 2026. Many thanks to Shawn Hondorp for the invitation and conversation. If you haven’t already, check out her show and add it to your listening playlist. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41499165

319 - Therapists vs. AI? Earl Wagner, PhD on the Future of Human Healing 05/27/2026

Practice Owners vs. Employees: What’s Really Happening? Group Practice (R)evolution (Refresh) 05/20/2026

318 - Can Therapy Evolve Beyond the Medical Model? with Dr. Danica Harris, The Empowered Therapist 05/13/2026

318 - Can Therapy Evolve Beyond the Medical Model? with Dr. Danica Harris, The Empowered Therapist Why trauma-informed therapists are questioning the medical model, rethinking therapist education, and redefining what healing can look like in a disconnected world. In my ongoing effort to “future-proof” the field of therapy, I’m encouraging practitioners to dream beyond the conventional session model. How do we move our profession and the world closer to a truly person-centered ethos? How do therapists expand our professional capacity to welcome (or, at least tolerate) interpersonal nuance, spiritual inquiry, somatic experiences, and/or political difference? My guest, Dr. Danica Harris, suggests that therapists begin by loosening their death grip on the one-on-one billable hour, among other things. Danica is the somatic experiencing practitioner behind The Empowered Therapist on Instagram. She’s also a complex trauma expert working internationally as a coach, facilitator, presenter, and educator. If you’re gonna chart a course for a utopian professional future, you’re gonna want Danica along for the ride! Why the medical model is failing many therapists and clients The growing divide between therapy education and real-world healing How trauma shows up in therapists themselves Why younger clinicians are challenging old systems The role of spirituality, embodiment, and vulnerability in healing What hope looks like during times of collective trauma Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41259400

317 - Power Isn’t the Problem—It’s How We Use It with Francine Proulx-Kenzle 05/06/2026

317 - Power Isn’t the Problem—It’s How We Use It with Francine Proulx-Kenzle What if power isn’t something to avoid—but something to learn? Francine Proulx-Kenzle and Sarah Buino explore sociocracy, personal power, burnout, and how early childhood experiences shape the way we show up in systems. I’m going to say something that might make a few therapists squirm: power is not the enemy. And yet… so many of us act like it is. In this conversation with Francine Proulx-Kenzle, I kept coming back to a core truth that I think we—especially in the therapy world—need to hear again and again: power simply exists. What matters is how we relate to it. Key takeaways from this episode: Power isn’t something you have or don’t have—it’s something you learn to use Avoiding power often leads to recreating the same harmful dynamics Burnout is often a sign of disconnection from your own needs and agency Systems like sociocracy show us what shared, humane power can look like Healing isn’t about becoming perfect—it’s about staying in relationship with your humanity If there’s one thing I want you to take from this conversation, it’s this: you don’t have to reject power to be a good person. You just have to learn how to use it differently. And that work starts with you. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41172425

316 - Rethinking Power in Group Practice with Ted Rau, Sociocracy For All (Interview Reboot) 04/29/2026

316 - Rethinking Power in Group Practice with Ted Rau, Sociocracy For All (Interview Reboot) Sarah explores sociocracy with Ted Rau, discussing models of shared leadership, and what it really takes to bridge the gap between overwhelmed owners and under-resourced clinicians. Our third cohort of the Authentic Leaders Group starts this spring and it’s got me thinking about systems that need to change. While change may be inevitable, it’s far from easy. That’s especially true in the therapy field. Our clients and culture are undergoing sweeping evolution and so too must group practice. How do we bridge the gap between employees and owners when both feel overworked and underpaid? Sociocracy could be the answer. Why group practice feels unsustainable right now: Exploring the growing disconnect between owners and clinicians—and how burnout, compensation, and evolving cultural needs are pushing the current model to its limits. What sociocracy offers instead: Insights from Ted Rau on consent-based governance, shared decision-making, and how “circles” can distribute power, responsibility, and accountability. The real question behind systems change: What it actually asks of us—owners releasing control, clinicians stepping into leadership—and whether the field is ready to experiment with more equitable, collaborative ways of working. I’m committed to having more of these system-focused, heart-centered conversations. I hope you are, too. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/41054335

315 - Therapists Need Community (Not Just CEUs) with Kathryn Esquer, The Therapist Network 04/22/2026

315 - Therapists Need Community (Not Just CEUs) with Kathryn Esquer, The Therapist Network What happens when therapists stop performing growth and actually practice it together? Kathryn Esquer shares how The Therapist Network emerged from a real need for authentic connection—and why community, vulnerability, and accountability are essential for sustainable clinical work. You know how I’m always going on about a) doing your work, and b) doing that work alongside others? It occurred to me that many therapists don’t know where to begin, especially with “everything” happening to our profession and the communities we serve. Kathryn Esquer felt that same deep desire for peer-based connection and support. So, she built it. Today, The Therapist Network offers professionals a virtual space for genuine collaboration, collective wisdom, and feedback––the kind of inspiration and resource-sharing that chaotic Facebook groups just can’t provide. Katy and I advance that goal by offering a “what to expect” primer for healthy group dynamics: Why build community? Your professional growth and mental well-being depend on it! Joining something is scary as hell, but extending yourself is better than going it alone. Practice discernment. Not all collaboration is good! If you’re questioning a group’s leadership, motives, or focus, then it’s time to find a new space. Include elders and others. If the group doesn’t embrace a mix of backgrounds, orientations, or ages, then it’s not a true community. Seek safety. Authenticity is easier to access when a group feels secure. A reminder that safety doesn’t mean devoid of accountability. A safe community promotes responsibility among all its members. Take time to find your people. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40949610

Legal Reality Check for Therapists with Employment Lawyer Lori Goldstein - Group Practice (R)evolution 04/15/2026

314 - The Future of Therapy: Psychedelics, Spirituality & the Courage to Feel with Christian Snuffer 04/08/2026

314 - The Future of Therapy: Psychedelics, Spirituality & the Courage to Feel with Christian Snuffer If therapists can’t feel, they can’t help. Christian Snuffer dives into psychedelics, spirituality, and the future of therapy—and why curiosity and compassion matter more than any modality. We met on Instagram and immediately bonded over, well, everything! While every tangent in this episode is just so compelling, three topics really reinforced my belief in the future of psychology and the clinicians who are dedicating themselves to its evolution: self-compassion - for the twisty journeys that bring many of us into this field and home to our own healing coachability - old dogs (and therapists) can learn new tricks, modalities, and ways of being with their clients and themselves psychedelics - we need to protect this vital treatment option from the scourge of capitalism Bonus focus: spirituality, namely, how do we make space for it in practice? Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40747530

313 - You’re Not Broken: Wholeness, Recovery & Spiritual Healing with Jamie Marich 04/01/2026

313 - You’re Not Broken: Wholeness, Recovery & Spiritual Healing with Jamie Marich What if the biggest problem in therapy is therapists who haven’t done their own work? Jamie Marich explores recovery, spirituality beyond religion, and why no modality, guru, or system can replace embodied healing. I love show-and-tell as a teaching method, especially because it emphasizes the importance of therapists doing their own work. Dr. Jamie Marich is the perfect participant. They have a substantial catalog of “personal artifacts” to share: growing up inside evangelical Christian nationalism recovery from addiction and participation in AA processing their queerness in an unsafe environment reconnecting to their spirituality beyond organized religion These mementos highlight Jamie’s rebel journey back to wholeness and a spiritually fulfilling relationship with God, free from rigid dogma. This conversation challenges therapists to do their own work, move beyond rigid systems, and rediscover wholeness as something already within us—not something we earn. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40671955

312 - No Wellness Without Justice with Frank Gruba-McCallister 03/25/2026

312 - No Wellness Without Justice with Frank Gruba-McCallister Frank Gruba-McCallister on why therapy is political, compassion is nonnegotiable, and healing must include social change. If I had to choose one episode to light my way through the collapse of capitalism, it would be this conversation with Frank Gruba-McCallister. Truth is, there’s no escaping the darkness of our current timeline. That said, there are dozens of reasons to remain hopeful, and thousands of people (like Frank) fanning the flames of optimism. There’s also hella work to do individually and collectively. The end of capitalism will come whether we act or not. Frank offers several tips to therapists who want to operationalize hope and shape a more equitable future: Embody your values - “Not everyone who is awake stays awake.” Our inner work is the journey, not the destination. Remain open or awake to new ways of thinking and be transparent about what has shifted for you. Make space for spiritual wisdom - “How can you be whole, which is what health is, by omitting what is the most essential aspect of who you are?” Don’t mistake your antipathy for organized religion as rejection of your spiritual curiosity Mindfully engage with liberatory psychology - “We have to empower people to challenge economic and political systems. But that doesn't negate the importance of them doing work with respect to their own development and growth.” Ditto for therapists! “There’s a way of coming out of this that brings you to a better place,” observes Frank. If he can remain hopeful, then so can you and I. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40606025

How to Grow a Practice Without Losing Yourself with Dr. Kristen Wynns - Group Practice (R)evolution 03/18/2026

How to Grow a Practice Without Losing Yourself with Dr. Kristen Wynns - Group Practice (R)evolution How Kristen Wynns built an award-winning practice without insurance dependence and with a good dose of humor. Group practice owners have a decision to make right now: continue treading water or get more creative in how they operate. The field of therapy is lucky to have many examples of group practice owners who embody innovative leadership. One of those is my “conference bestie”, Dr. Kristen Wynns, author, speaker, and founder of Wynns Family Psychology. Three things practice owners take away from this conversation: You’re the owner, not the micromanager. How you delegate tasks, build team confidence, and accept feedback is what either inspires or discourages your team. Fiascos often lead to fresh starts. Humans are terrified of making changes, but sometimes you’ve just got to take advantage of a surprise reset, even if you don’t think you’re ready. Times change. So must your practice. New tech! New employees! New competition! Build in time for periodic recalibration. GUEST BIO Dr. Kristen Wynns is a psychologist, author, comedian, and speaker who blends mental health expertise with humor. As founder of Wynns Family Psychology, an award-winning private practice with four locations in NC, and “Kiki” on stage, she empowers others to use laughter for healing, confidence, and connection. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Visit: and click on “have a coupon” and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year! Or join our 2026 Authentic Leaders Group and get 1 year of GP(R) membership for FREE! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40503605

311 - Invisibility, Trauma, and Becoming Seen: Therapy + Spirituality with Caroline Fernandes 03/11/2026

311 - Invisibility, Trauma, and Becoming Seen: Therapy + Spirituality with Caroline Fernandes Are therapists ready for the next era of healing? Dr. Caroline Fernandes on complex trauma, mediumship, and what the therapy field has to learn from the spirit world. I’m spinning all the hits on this episode: grief, ghosts, and the energetic shifts that happen when we incorporate the spiritual into processing personal, cultural, or systemic wounds. That’s little “s” spirituality, not the patriarchal-sponsored kind. The addition of spirituality is important in light of my conversation with Dr. Caroline Fernandes. She’s a holistic psychotherapist specializing in complex trauma, relational wounds, and spiritually transformative experiences. Caroline is also a Reiki master and a psychic medium with 25 years’ experience. She integrates psychology with energetic work, creating an environment where clients can explore a more mystical side of healing alongside the corporeal. GUEST BIO Dr. Caroline Fernandes is a holistic psychotherapist specializing in complex trauma, relational wounds, and spiritually transformative experiences. She integrates mind-body-spirit practices with evidence-based modalities including EMDR, CBT, DBT, and somatic approaches. Her work supports deep processing, nervous system regulation, meaning-making, and sustainable healing across life transitions and identity development. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . UPCOMING EVENTS SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40360575

310 - Healing at EVERY Level: Mental Health and Clinical Leadership with Sarah Buino and Lane Essex 03/04/2026

309 - Happy Funerals, Sad Funerals: What Death Teaches the Living with Rachel Hauck 02/25/2026

309 - Happy Funerals, Sad Funerals: What Death Teaches the Living with Rachel Hauck A funeral director turned therapist on meaning-making, unfinished business, and why grief needs more truth and less cheerleading. Ready for a life-affirming episode about death? I’m excited to introduce you to my longtime friend Rachel Hauck. She’s a funeral director and embalmer. After 20 years in business, she’s decided to go back to school to become a therapist. I love chatting with people who are in midlife career shifts. Why did she make the switch? How will her previous career shape her identity as a therapist? What sets this conversation apart from the hushed, almost embarrassed way folks often talk about death is our openness around its emotional messiness. We go beyond Kübler-Ross's model to consider those carrying complex or “untraditional” feelings of grief (think: Jeanette McCurdy). All experiences are welcome here. GUEST BIO Rachel Hauck (she/her) has served families as a licensed funeral director/embalmer in the state of Florida for the last 20 years. She is currently completing a master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling at Nova Southeastern University and hopes to develop a signature program in prolonged grief therapy. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40209960

Power, Pay, and Permission to Leave with Alicia Murray, The Therapist HQ - Group Practice (R)evolution 02/18/2026

308 - Fear as a Signal: Cycle-Breaking Leadership with Poonam Natha 02/11/2026

308 - Fear as a Signal: Cycle-Breaking Leadership with Poonam Natha Trauma-informed leadership, psychological safety, and accountability in group practice culture. The TL;DR takeaway from today’s episode is: to change the systems and institutions harming us, we must commit to the work. All of it, the intra- and interpersonal. Poonam Natha can help us with this assignment. She views “the work” as a lifelong process of balancing individualism and collectivism rather than choosing one over the other. Poonam’s nuanced opinion is rooted in her lived experience as the eldest daughter of immigrant parents and a self-described cycle-breaker. GUEST BIO Poonam Natha, LMFT, is a co-founder of Level Up Leaders Inc. She aims to support group practice owners to cultivate psychological safety values-aligned workplaces by stepping into their authentic leadership with clarity, compassion, and courage. Along with her co-founder, Julianne Guso, their philosophy of trauma-informed leadership begins with honoring your own humanity so you can honor the humanity of your team. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/40051495

307 - Creativity as Clinical Leadership with Dr Shawn Hondorp, The Innovative Therapist 02/04/2026

307 - Creativity as Clinical Leadership with Dr Shawn Hondorp, The Innovative Therapist Shawn Hondorp on creativity, IFS protector parts, and building a practice that actually feels alive. This episode is your practical guide to feeling alive in messy times. But “feeling” is only part of the equation. “Doing” is what drives change. It transforms our private creative practices into a collective, disruptive force. Shawn Hondorp, PhD., is a maven of creativity and as the creator of The Innovative Therapist podcast and community, she supports therapists and helpers in creating the work that feels fully alive and authentic, blending psychology, creativity, and courageous self-trust. Shawn’s deeply personal healing journey continues to shape her professional pursuits. What started as “research” eventually became “me-search” as clinical insights gave way to growing comfort with vulnerability. GUEST BIO Shawn Hondorp, PhD., is a community builder, retreat host, and adventurer who has gradually forged her own path away from an academic career as a board-certified clinical psychologist. As the creator of The Innovative Therapist podcast and community, she helps therapists and helpers create work that feels fully alive and authentic—blending psychology, creativity, and courageous self-trust to inspire more sustainable, joyful ways of living and working. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/39975990

Bridging Generational Tension Without Losing Your Mind with Calle Foster - Group Practice (R)evolution 01/28/2026

Bridging Generational Tension Without Losing Your Mind with Calle Foster - Group Practice (R)evolution From Boomer Hierarchies to Gen Z Autonomy, revolutionary communication insights for owners, managers, and clinicians in group practice. If you’re navigating leadership across multiple generations and feeling the strain, this episode is for you. And yes, before you ask, we’re talking about generational dynamics without turning this into a “kids these days” rant. Let’s get to the heart of what’s brewing in group practices right now: intergenerational tension. My guest, Calle Foster, professionals go from quiet contributors to confident, influential, credible leaders. Calle has graciously agreed to be our Millennial and GenZ cipher. They’re the groups she coaches most often. GUEST BIO Calle Foster (she/her) spent over a decade in corporate Learning & Development before becoming a speaker and three-time certified leadership coach. She now equips Millennial and Gen Z professionals with the confidence, clarity, and people skills to lead with real impact. Her coaching blends honesty, strategy, and self-awareness to help rising leaders thrive. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. For a limited time, podcast listeners can get a full year of membership for only $19.99 by using the discount code PODCAST. Visit: and click on “have a coupon” and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year! SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Plus you get 1 year of Group Practice (R)evolution membership free. /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/39897685

306 - Leading Through Collective Change with Steve Judd Astrology 01/21/2026

306 - Leading Through Collective Change with Steve Judd Astrology What 2026 astrology reveals about responsibility and power. This episode of Conversations With a Wounded Healer is for you if: you feel paralyzed by current events, yet hopeful you throw major side-eye at the phrase "unprecedented times” you think astrology can help us forge a better future for all Or, as my guest Steve Judd puts it, “Astrology has outlasted every religion, empire, and political system. It's been around since humanity got off its knuckles on the East African plains, looked up at the sky and went, Wow! I can see patterns there!” GUEST BIO Steve Judd is an astrologer with 45 years of experience, specializing in character analysis, relationship dynamics, and future exploration. Entirely self-taught, he has completed more than 40,000 readings and built a global audience through media appearances and YouTube. His direct, personable approach and long-standing expertise make him a respected voice in modern astrology. SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/39800845

305 - Behavioral Health Trends You Need to Know for Therapy Practices in 2026 12/17/2025

305 - Behavioral Health Trends You Need to Know for Therapy Practices in 2026 The end-of-year mental health-related assessments are in and, y’all. You. All! These reports offer some bad news and worse news. Sorry, I ran out of sugar-coating; it’s been a long year. Psychotherapy Action Network’s latest survey uncovered a substantial disconnect between what PMCs, for-profit private management companies like Alma, Headway, and Rula, promise therapists and what they deliver. Shocker, I know. While demand for mental health is exploding, power and influence are shifting to insurers and investors at the expense of patients and providers. But we possess the answers. We’re a community of people dedicated to healing ourselves and caring for others in a world that’s always one dictator away from total collapse. Don’t let fear and loneliness lead you. We can only get through this shit together. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. For a limited time, podcast listeners can get a full year of membership for only $19.99 by using the discount code PODCAST. Visit: and click on “have a coupon” and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year! Get Support! Earn CEs! Care in Chaos: SUPPORT THE SHOW *** Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places… Join our Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You’ll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah’s group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it’s a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah’s group directly at . /episode/index/show/convoswithawoundedhealer/id/39416455

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