317 - Power Isn’t the Problem—It’s How We Use It with Francine Proulx-Kenzle
Conversations With a Wounded Healer
Release Date: 05/06/2026
Conversations With a Wounded Healer
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info_outlineWhat if power isn’t something to avoid—but something to learn? Francine Proulx-Kenzle and Sarah Buino explore sociocracy, personal power, burnout, and how early childhood experiences shape the way we show up in systems.
I’m going to say something that might make a few therapists squirm: power is not the enemy. And yet… so many of us act like it is.
In this conversation with Francine Proulx-Kenzle, I kept coming back to a core truth that I think we—especially in the therapy world—need to hear again and again: power simply exists. What matters is how we relate to it.
Key takeaways from this episode:
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Power isn’t something you have or don’t have—it’s something you learn to use
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Avoiding power often leads to recreating the same harmful dynamics
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Burnout is often a sign of disconnection from your own needs and agency
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Systems like sociocracy show us what shared, humane power can look like
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Healing isn’t about becoming perfect—it’s about staying in relationship with your humanity
If there’s one thing I want you to take from this conversation, it’s this: you don’t have to reject power to be a good person. You just have to learn how to use it differently. And that work starts with you.
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