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Counting Countries

Release Date: 08/13/2020

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Brian Johnson has been to 128 countries Hey now, I am your host, Ric Gazarian. In this episode, I have the pleasure to speak with traveler Brian Johnson.  I met Brian twice in the last two years, first at the Extraordinary Travel Festival in Bangkok in November of 2024 and 12 months later in the Omo Valley as we escaped a hot zone of Marburg Virus, more on that later.  Brian’s stories of overlanding in Africa in the 1990s caught my attention and I realized he would be an interesting guest.  And here we are … I would like to thank everyone for their support of Counting...

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Join the in Bangkok, October 22-25, 2026.  Use code BANGKOK to save on your ticket. One of the goals of the Extraordinary Travel Festival is to bring the leaders of the travel industry together.  Why?  We want to make your travels richer and more meaningful.  Hearing from these thought leaders keeps you abreast of changes and benefits that can help you.  We have founders and leaders like Ian Cumming of Travel Massive, Stefan Krasowski of Every Passport Stamp, and Orest Zub of NomadMania. I am excited to be speaking with Matt Gray on this episode who will also be...

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Yaël Pericard has been to 133 countries Hey now, I am your host, Ric Gazarian. In this episode, I have the pleasure to speak with traveler Yael Pericard.  I met Yael briefly at the ETF in Bangkok and follow him on FB, but here is another case of a traveler who I really did not know well.  Of course that is no longer the case after our conversation.  Yael leads an adventurous life from summiting 7000 meters in Pakistan, to giving back in the Phillipines, to risking it all to explore a remote airstrip in Lesotho (this one is a pretty crazy story).  And, you will get to meet...

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The ETF/ABS Magellan Travel Index was announced and premiered at the Extraordinary Travel Festival in Bangkok in 2024 by founder, João Paulo Peixoto.  The professor has recently moved into the #1 position on both the NM and MTP lists.  The professor joins us on the ETF to provide an update on the MTI. You can learn more about the . Please remember the Extraordinary Travel Festival will be held in Bangkok from October 22-25 in 2026. You can join and use code BANGKOK to save. 

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Thomas Preinl has been to 190 countries   Hey now, I am your host, Ric Gazarian. On this episode I have the pleasure to speak with Thomas Preinl who I met at the NomadMania meeting in Uzbekistan and spent time with him during a recent visit to Thailand. Thomas is one of those characters who has been Chasing 193 but only recently found the extreme travel community.  Thomas has benefited with flight benefits due to his employment with Lufthansa for years.  As Thomas will share, he is German by birth, but not by character, having a flexible and adaptable travel persona.  You...

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Hey now!  Welcome to the third season of ETF news and updates. The destination for ETF III will be back to Bangkok, Thailand! The dates will be October 22-25, 2026. Join today to lock in great prices with these discount codes. ETF3 - $140 DISCOUNT – EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 24 ALUMNI - if you are an alumni of ETF I or II please contact me for a bigger discount - expires September 24 as well Tickets are non-refundable, but you may sell your ticket.  It will be your responsibility to find the buyer. For more details.  www.extraordinarytravelfest.com

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Thor Pedersen has been to every country in the world   Hey now, I am your host, Ric Gazarian. Thor returns for the 4th time to Counting Countries in addition to 7 other episodes for patrons.  During this conversation, we speak about his newly published book, The Impossible Journey ().  Despite knowing his journey well, this book shares more stories and additional context to his quest.  We also overview what he has been doing over the last 2 years since his return from his nearly 10 year journey.     I would like to thank everyone for their support of Counting...

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Zsuzsanna Berencsi has been to every country in the world   Hey now, I am your host, Ric Gazarian. Zsu Berencsi shares with us her awesome travel adventures to every country in the world with a big celebration this past December in her last country, Jamaica.  I have met Zsu twice before at both ETFs and she promises a third.  I got it on tape.  I also reconnected with Zsu at April Peregrino’s 193 party in Bratislava where Zsu arranged a special field trip.     I would like to thank everyone for their support of Counting Countries, especially my...

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I had the opportunity to speak with world travelers Martina Sebova and Rachel Davey, who comprise the Very Hungry Nomads.  This was my first outing of attempting to interview two people at the same time.  Marty and Rach did an excellent job of moderating the answers.        

It has been a frustrating time for most extreme travelers as we shelter in place around the globe.  There does not seem to be an end in sight when travel will go back to normal.  I hope everyone is well and keeping in safely.   

Thanks to my patrons William Schelling, Steph Rowe, Ted Nims, Bisa Myles, Stephen Rothwell, and Adam Hickman for supporting Counting Countries. And William, if you are listening, please reach out to me.  They help pay for the production of this podcast.  You can support this podcast by going to Patreon.com.  My patrons will hear an extra interview with Marty and Rach which is exclusive to them. 

Untamed Borders is our sponsor and they want to remind you that Covid-19 travel restrictions are slowly being lifted in certain parts of the world. If you are looking for inspiration for your first post Covid trip then check out some of their trips for the 2020-21 winter period in the middle east.

It's been a crazy year for travel. None more so than for Untamed Borders, Counting Countries’s sponsor.  They have been grounded since March but as travel restrictions ease they are arranging some private itineraries to countries such as Somalia, Afghanistan, and Lebanon, where entry is permitted without quarantine if you have a negative Covid PCR test result. Contact Untamed Borders for a list of the more interesting places on the planet with this entry system. Please note, you may need to quarantine when returning to your home country.

One trip they have in September where many countries do allow free travel is to Turkey. UB they will be diving into the far south east of the country populated by the Kurdish community. Visiting Diyarbakir, Mardin, and the very rarely visited province of Hakkari, which is high in the mountains on the border where Iraq, Iran, and Turkey meet.

If that is perhaps too soon then maybe check out some of their desert offerings in early 2021.

First up is their trip to what they call the Heart of the Sahara. To the Tadrat Rouge mountains of Southern Algeria. Right on the border with Niger and Libya, this really is an Untamed part of the world and for lovers of desert scenery, their photos of the orange sand and black rocks are spellbinding.

You could also try their new Saudi Arabia itinerary. As well as visiting Jeddah, Riyadh and the UNESCO Maidan Saleh.  They have also added a night camping by the volcanos north of Medina. Who knew that Saudi Arabia contains almost 2000 extinct volcanos. A real trip off the beaten path of a country that is off the beaten path.

Marty and Rach grew up on two independent tracks but with an equal passion for travel.  Their paths crossed in Europe while both worked for the same tour provider.  Taking advantage of the off-season, they teamed up to start exploring other parts of the world.  And of course, this transitioned at one point in traveling to every country in the world.  They share their journey. 

I encourage you to subscribe wherever you listen, Apple Podcast, Google Play, or Spotify and even better if you write a review. Listen to the end of the podcast to hear the latest review from Glimpses of Everywhere in Sweden … “Exactly what I needed!!! Instead of traveling this whole spring and summer (as was my initial plan) I got stuck at home and lost my job. Luckily I found a corona-job, making body bags. What helped me through this tough time was definitely Ric’s podcast. He is such an amazing interviewer, so respectful and nuanced, and a great listener. I love listening to the podcast and with every episode, my bucket list gets longer and longer…”

Also, a quick note to some of my listeners and supporters.  A former guest on Counting Countries who is a bit disgruntled has been harassing some of my listeners.  I apologize for this person’s actions and hope you have not been overly inconvenienced.  

Very Hungry Nomads were in their Covid home base of Australia while I was recording in Bangkok.  Please listen in and enjoy.   

Thank you to my Patrons …. William Schelling, Stephen Rothwell, Steph Rowe, Adam Hickman, Bisa Myles, and Ted Nims.

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Check out our friend: Large Minority.  They organize international rallies around the world including Sri Lanka, Cambodia, the Philippines, and the Amazon.  And watch my full-length documentary in Cambodia when I traveled with Large Minority.   

More About Very Hungry Nomads:

  • Born in: Slovakia (Marty)
  • Born in: Australia (Rach)
    Passports: Slovakian (Marty)
  • Passports: Australian (Rach)
  • Favorite Book: The Alchemist (Marty) and Tales of a Female Nomad (Rach)
  • Favorite Travel Film: The Motorcycle Diaries and The Beach
  • Favorite App:  Google Translate
  • Favorite Food: Thai food
  • Favorite Drink: Red Wine and coffee
  • Their Map: Map
  • Their Blog: Very Hungry Nomads
  • Instagram: IG
  • FB: FB

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About Counting Countries

Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Fewer people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space.

Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by Mundi

About GlobalGaz

Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: Hit The Road: India, 7000 KM To Go, and Photos From Chernobyl.  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: Hit The Road: India and Hit The Road: Cambodia.  

Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has traveled so far, and keep up with his journey at GlobalGaz.com

 

Well… that depends on who you ask! 

An analysis of these lists and who is the best traveled by Kolja Spori.  

Disclaimer: I will earn a fee if you order from Amazon/Agoda. Or book a trip through G Adventures.  PS  Thanks!   

 

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