After You Log In to the Fake Bank, They Send You to the Real One
Craig Peterson - Secure Your Business, Your Privacy, and Save Your Sanity
Release Date: 08/26/2026
Craig Peterson - Secure Your Business, Your Privacy, and Save Your Sanity
A listener asked Matt to ask Craig about the theft of FBI data, and Craig started with who holds it. Much of what the federal government keeps — background-check records, applications to the FBI, even the designs of weapons made by defense contractors — sits with third parties. The group behind this one is called ShinyHunters; its reported leader was arrested by Dutch police the day before the show. Craig’s point was the gap between the government and its vendors: last week every federal agency was required to patch ScreenConnect, a remote-support tool with a serious vulnerability....
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On October 13, Microsoft ends support for Office 2021 — Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint stop receiving security patches that day — along with the extended security updates for Windows Server 2012. Danny, sitting in for Jim Polito, asked the obvious follow-up: how does anyone find out what they are running? Craig’s answer started with what people assume covers them. “Most people think, oh, I’ve got antivirus software. I’ve got Windows Update turned on. So, I’m all set. It is not true.” Windows Update does not update all the software on a Windows machine, and antivirus only...
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Sen. Mark Warner went to the Senate floor to call for a government body to oversee AI. Craig read the legislation and the senator’s website before the show, and his objection was that the problem it describes is already illegal. Laws against hacking a computer system have been on the books for almost 30 years; people have gone to jail under them, foreign nationals included. “I think what they’re trying to do is get legislation that protects them from the laws that exist.” Jeff played the other side: if the AI gets loose because of “grossly incompetent nitwits that I chose to...
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OpenAI launched ChatGPT 6, Sol, and Luna this month, claiming Sol makes about half as many mistakes as the models before it. Matt asked whether that is real progress. Craig’s answer was yes, with a catch: the models are not getting smarter. The companies, Anthropic included, have rewritten the code around them so the AI runs the same prompt again and again from different angles and then votes on the most likely answer. The new models use about twice the tokens of the old ones. “And they get a 50% better answer.” Matt: “There seems to be a correlation here.” The second half was about...
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Jim came into the segment from a morning on Flock license-plate cameras, and Craig took it one step wider. The technology is old and the courts have ruled on it for years; his discomfort is with how much of our information is collected at all. Websites that must verify your age now ask for a photo of your driver’s license or passport, so Facebook “or whomever” holds government ID for millions of people. Craig said 150 million of those records have been stolen. “So now what are they going to do? How am I going to prove who I am when other people have a copy of all of my information?”...
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OpenAI’s model got into Hugging Face. Anthropic said its model had broken into someone first. Then Google said its model had done it before either of them. Jeff wanted to know how these AIs keep “breaking out,” and whether he should picture Robby the Robot fiddling with a lock. Craig spent the previous two weeks reading the published investigations, which go back to May, and said nothing broke out of anything: “These AIs were let loose on networks that had access to the Internet. They were given specific instructions that had 100% to do with hacking and breaking into systems.” The...
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Jeff and Heidi hold happy hour at the bar in their house at 6:03, and Heidi has decided what it is missing: a robot bartender. Jeff’s terms were that he picks how it looks and she picks what it says. Craig’s answer was that the hardware already exists. Bars now have table-top machines that check your ID card and make any drink you order; those start around $30,000, and home versions run about $400. The conversation half is ChatGPT or Claude, spoken rather than typed. It started with a more serious question. Elon Musk and Sam Altman both say AI development should slow down, so why not...
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Craig’s wife sent him an article the morning of the show: Chinese ships moving through the straits of northern Canada are not just passing through. International agreements allow transit through territorial waters at a reasonable pace, but these ships are stopping, and it looks like they are measuring the sea floor. Russia is doing it too. The route used to be frozen; now it can be navigated in summer. Craig used it to explain why the U.S. wants a foothold in the North. It was the last stop in a long Canada conversation. Jim opened on British Columbia’s three-year experiment...
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This was the biggest Patch Tuesday on record: Microsoft pushed close to 700 patches in a single month, roughly six times the usual volume. Craig's follow-up question is the one that actually decides whether a machine is exposed. Microsoft is patching Microsoft. Who is patching everything else? Windows Update never touches third-party software — it barely updates Windows itself, Craig said, and it does nothing for the average of 62 other programs sitting on a typical computer, many of which are being actively exploited right now. He named Adobe Reader and WinZip specifically: the current...
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Craig grew up in Canada and left in the 1970s, and this week he put numbers on why. A driver's license in Quebec cost $300 a year. Registration on the family station wagon cost $3,000 a year. Both figures in 1970s dollars. Auto insurance, by contrast, was free — which Craig turned into the sharpest point of the segment: his father remarried, his stepmother got her license at 26, and she totaled three cars. Craig's question was not about her driving. It was about what happens to the premium. "How much does insurance go up? How much is the risk? Zero, of course, because there is no insurance....
info_outlineThe detail that makes this scam land is not the fake website. It's what happens two seconds after you use it.
Craig walks the whole sequence. Attackers use AI to build a pixel-accurate copy of a bank's site — he uses Bank of America as the example and is careful to say he's picking on the scammers, not the bank. They send a wide net of email claiming fraudulent activity on your account, knowing that some fraction of any list banks there. You click, you land on the copy, you enter your username and password.
Then the clever part. They immediately redirect you to the real bank's site, which naturally says the login failed and asks you to try again. You assume you fat-fingered it. You log in properly, everything works, you get on with your day — and you never form the thought that anything went wrong. Your credentials are gone and nothing about the experience told you so.
The FBI's figure for the Phantom Hacker scam, which leans on this and related techniques against older Americans, is over a billion dollars since last year.
Craig's defence is one habit, stated plainly: never click the link. If an email about your bank worries you, go to the bank's own site yourself. If there is a genuine problem the message will be waiting for you when you log in, and you can ask their support directly whether the thing you received was real.
Two further pieces of practical advice, both concrete:
- Multi-factor authentication matters, but not the text-message kind. Something you know plus something you have is the right shape, and an authenticator app is the right implementation. Text messages are easy to fake and easy to intercept, and Craig notes they have been used to steal hundreds of millions. He is genuinely surprised how many banks still rely on them.
- Use a credit card, not a debit card. Fraud on a credit card is not your liability. Fraud on a debit card means the money has already left your account and you are now arguing to get it back, under policies that vary bank to bank. Craig went decades using only a debit card and no longer does.
Also in this segment:
- The tech support imposter version, which caught Craig's own father — and the IRS variant, where Craig personally took six calls in half an hour demanding Amazon gift certificates to avoid jail
- Why the young are not the safe bet people assume: a study found Gen Z will hand over an email address for a donut, on the reasoning that everything about them is already out there anyway
- Both men on refusing to give a Social Security number — Craig uses a passport card instead, and notes drily the original promise that the number would never be used for anything but Social Security and would never become a national ID
- Craig's newsletter that week on business AI projects, against the MIT finding that 95% of them fail
- Rush trivia to open: the band's biggest-charting song was "Take Off" with Bob and Doug McKenzie, and Rick Moranis and Geddy Lee went to school together
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