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Release Date: 05/30/2025

A Thorough Critique of Popular and Psychological Accounts of Meaning of Life show art A Thorough Critique of Popular and Psychological Accounts of Meaning of Life

Dr. John Vervaeke

This is John’s second video essay, and it delivers a thorough critique of contemporary theories of meaning in life. With his student Arjun Arora assisting, John dismantles the standard psychological and folk categories — purpose, coherence, significance, and mattering — showing why they fall short of capturing the depth of what “meaning” actually is. Arjun Arora is a cognitive science and physics scholar whose work bridges science, philosophy, and the search for meaning. As a student collaborator of Dr. John Vervaeke at the University of Toronto, Arora explores questions at the...

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Silk Road Seminar - Elizabeth Oldfield show art Silk Road Seminar - Elizabeth Oldfield

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Thank you for joining us for our monthly Silk Road Seminar! Today’s guest is Elizabeth Oldfield.   Elizabeth Oldfield is an experienced leader, writer, consultant and podcast host with a passion for intelligent public engagement on issues of reconciliation, identity, and healing our common life. She is currently working with a range of organisations and individuals as a coach and consultant focused on building clarity, courage and connection.   Elizabeth appears regularly in the media, including BBC One, Sky News, the World Service, and writing in Prospect Magazine, UnHerd and The...

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Watch the first episode of our new season of Lectern Dialogues! This season’s guest is Zevi Slavin. Zevi Slavin is a philosopher, educator, and public scholar whose work explores the intersections of mysticism and philosophy across traditions. As the creator of Seekers of Unity, he is dedicated to reviving and reinterpreting the voices of philosophical mystics, with a focus on Jewish thought and its dialogue with Greek and Islamic philosophy. A leading voice in the study of Jewish Neoplatonism, Slavin highlights figures such as Solomon Ibn Gabirol, whose integration of poetry, metaphysics,...

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Why Reason Needs Spirit | John Vervaeke show art Why Reason Needs Spirit | John Vervaeke

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Silk Road Seminar - Rick Repetti show art Silk Road Seminar - Rick Repetti

Dr. John Vervaeke

Thank you for joining us LIVE for our monthly Silk Road Seminar! Today’s guest is Rick Repetti. Silk Road Seminars are a live event where John weaves together threads from his various theoretical conversations along with a distinguished guest. These hour-long conversations are live on YouTube followed by an exclusive Q&A, where you can ask questions directly to John and his guest. To be entered onto the guest list for these Q&As, you can sign up at the Gamma Tier (and above) on The Lectern at . Currently enrolled university students at all levels up to doctoral studies get free...

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How do we rebuild trust and meaning in a world where certainty and connection are breaking down?   In this episode of The Lectern, John welcomes Kieran McCammon and Jordan Hall to discuss the 'trust apocalypse' and its intersection with the meaning crisis. They delve into the vicious cycle between the loss of trust and the fragmentation of communities, exploring how these issues reverberate through society. Kieran introduces his work on the Trust Foundation, which aims to address these challenges by leveraging collective agency, distributed cognition, and extended distributed labor. John...

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Silk Road Seminar - Bishop Maximus show art Silk Road Seminar - Bishop Maximus

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Bishop Maximus is a theologian, scholar, and Orthodox bishop whose work bridges ancient Christian thought with contemporary philosophical inquiry. A leading voice in the revival of patristic epistemology, he focuses on the integration of faith and reason through figures such as Clement of Alexandria. His research explores how early Christian thinkers synthesized Greek philosophy with theological doctrine, offering compelling alternatives to modern skepticism. Bishop Maximus is a key contributor to the Philosophical Silk Road project, advocating for the transformative power of faith as both...

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The Philosophical Silk Road: A Journey to Rediscovering Theosis and Sacred Pluralism show art The Philosophical Silk Road: A Journey to Rediscovering Theosis and Sacred Pluralism

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The Calling to Reorient the Self How can the sacred be recovered in a world fractured by autonomy and fragmentation? In this deeply personal episode of Kainos on The Lectern, recorded during a session hosted by Alexander Beiner on Kainos, John Vervaeke shares reflections from his recent pilgrimage across Europe—what he calls the Philosophical Silk Road. Weaving through sacred conversations and historic locations, he explores profound ideas like theosis, theoria, and voluntary necessity, inviting listeners into a lived philosophy of sacred participation. From Istanbul to Rome to Amsterdam,...

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Can artificial intelligence truly become wise?

In this landmark lecture, John Vervaeke explores the future of AI through a lens few dare to examine: the limits of intelligence itself. He unpacks the critical differences between intelligence, rationality, reasonableness, and wisdom—terms often used interchangeably in discussions around AGI. Drawing from decades of research in cognitive science and philosophy, John argues that while large language models like ChatGPT demonstrate forms of generalized intelligence, they fundamentally lack core elements of human cognition: embodiment, caring, and participatory knowing.

By distinguishing between propositional, procedural, perspectival, and participatory knowing, he reveals why the current paradigm of AI is not equipped to generate consciousness, agency, or true understanding. This lecture also serves as a moral call to action: if we want wise machines, we must first become wiser ourselves.

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00:00 Introduction: AI, AGI, and the Nature of Intelligence
02:00 What is General Intelligence?
04:30 LLMs and the Illusion of Generalization
07:00 The Meta-Problems of Intelligence: Anticipation & Relevance Realization
09:00 Relevance Realization: The Hidden Engine of Intelligence
11:30 How We Filter Reality Through Relevance
14:00 The Limits of LLMs: Predicting Text vs. Anticipating Reality
17:00 Four Kinds of Knowing: Propositional, Procedural, Perspectival, Participatory
23:00 Embodiment, Consciousness, and Narrative Identity
27:00 The Role of Attention, Care, and Autopoiesis
31:00 Culture as Niche Construction
34:00 Why AI Can’t Participate in Meaning
37:00 The Missing Dimensions in LLMs
40:00 Rationality vs. Reasonableness
43:00 Self-Deception, Bias, and the Need for Self-Correction
46:00 Caring About How You Care: The Core of Rationality
48:00 Wisdom: Aligning Multiple Selves and Temporal Scales
53:00 The Social Obligation to Cultivate Wisdom
55:00 Alter: Cultivating Wisdom in an AI Future

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Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode:

  • Jeff Hinton

  • Jordan Peterson

  • Keith Stanovich

  • Michael Levin

  • Stroop Effect

  • Bertrand Russell

  • Plato (Republic, Symposium)

  • Predictive Processing

  • Relevance Realization

  • Spearman (1926)

  • DeepMind (DeepSeek)

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