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The Crisis of Being
06/27/2025
The Crisis of Being
The Crisis of Being James Filler is a philosopher, theologian, and leading voice in metaphysics and post-Cartesian thought, specializing in substance ontology, the meaning crisis, and relational models of reason. With a PhD in philosophy and expertise in ancient and contemporary ontology, Filler is the author of Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being Relation as Ontological Ground and Substance Ontology and the Crisis of Reason. His work traces the genealogical roots of modern nihilism and skepticism while advancing a powerful case for relationality, participation, and non-discursive forms of knowing. As a teacher and scholar, he brings clarity and compassion to some of the most pressing philosophical and spiritual questions of our time. James Filler: | Each quarter, John engages in thought-provoking extended conversations with a leading expert in psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. Each season offers a unique exploration, bringing together their diverse fields of knowledge to create fresh insights and understanding. These in-depth discussions, chaptered for your convenience, offer nuanced perspectives and integrative approaches to navigating our complex world. The first episode is free and publicly available. To follow the rest of the season as well as gain access to previous discussions, you can sign up at the Beta Tier (and above) on The Lectern at the . If you would like to donate purely out of goodwill to support John’s work, please consider joining our . The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. . If you would like to learn and engage regularly in practices that are informed, developed and endorsed by John and his work, visit Awaken to Meaning’s calendar to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. . John Vervaeke: | | | John Vervaeke is joined by philosopher and theologian James Filler to expose the hidden roots of the modern meaning crisis. Together, they trace a powerful philosophical arc from ancient substance ontology to today’s widespread nihilism, skepticism, and isolation. James reveals how centuries of prioritizing “being” over “relation” have led to an inward collapse of reason, relationality, and the self. John and James unpack how non-discursive knowing, theosis, and participatory truth can restore wholeness beyond representational models of mind. They explore the role of liturgy, love, and vertical epistemology as practices that reawaken our connection to what is most real. This Lectern is a profound inquiry into what it means to become truly human—and how we might recover the sacred not through belief, but through transformation. Notes: (00:00) Welcome to The Lectern (00:30) James Filler's Work (02:30) Impact of Substance Ontology (07:00) Cartesian Dualism and Its Consequences (10:30) Critique of Modern Rationality (13:30) Relationality and Knowledge (16:00) The Role of Non-Discursive Reasoning (24:00) Ethics and Becoming Truly Human (40:30) Participatory Knowing and Liturgy (42:00) Secularism and Substance Ontology (44:30) The Buffered Self and Modernity (48:00) Self-Transcendence and Theosis (51:00) Critique of Substance Ontology (01:00:00) The Role of Liturgy in Modern Churches
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Embarking on the Philosophical Silk Road: Exploring Pilgrimage and Theosis
06/13/2025
Embarking on the Philosophical Silk Road: Exploring Pilgrimage and Theosis
This conversation marks the beginning of a deeper inquiry for Dr. John Vervaeke: What if pilgrimage is not a retreat from the world, but a return to what is most real? Joined by Ethan Hsieh, John explicates his intent to preregister his intellectual and philosophical orientation before beginning his metaphorical pilgrimage. Drawing on parallels with psychology's preregistration practice, John's aim is to document his internal state at various stages of his journey. The conversation delves deep into the concepts of theoria, theophany, and theosis, advocating for a pilgrimage that is not merely a lecture series but a 'meta-noetic passage.' The dialogue anticipates John's encounters with historical figures, sages, and the individuals who embody and interpret their legacy. John expresses his openness to how these encounters might transform him, acknowledging the potential psychological and physiological challenges involved. The dialogue also touches upon themes of the imaginal and the importance of community and fellowship in the pilgrimage process. Ethan contributes by drawing connections to broader themes of perception and philosophical inquiry. The conversation culminates in the hope that this philosophical and spiritual journey will not only deepen John's understanding but also inspire others to embark on their own explorative journeys. —- Notes: (00:00) Introduction to the Philosophical Silk Road (00:30) The Concept of Preregistration in Philosophy (01:00) Defining the Pilgrimage and Its Purpose (02:00) Introducing Ethan and the Dialogical Approach (04:30) Exploring the Original Orientation (05:30) The Challenge of Propositional Tyranny (07:00) Theoria and Theophany: Renewing the Senses (13:30) Meta Noetic Passage and Pilgrimage (20:00) Engaging with Sages and Geographical Perspectives (24:00) Personal Challenges and Psychological Defects (31:30) The Fellowship of the Pilgrimage (33:00) Interlocutors and Sages: A Deeper Dive (54:00) Introduction to Theosis (55:00) Historical Continuity and Henosis (56:00) Henosis and Kenosis in Christian Mysticism (57:30) The Paradox of Self-Transcendence (01:00:30) Theosis and Inner Athea (01:05:30) Personal Reflections and Burnout (01:09:00) The Concept of Unbinding (01:11:00) Non-Theism and Theism (01:25:00) Pilgrimage and Transformation (01:38:30) Reflections on Personal Growth (01:48:00) Concluding Thoughts and Future Questions If you would like to donate purely out of goodwill to support John’s work, please consider joining our . The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. . If you would like to learn and engage regularly in practices that are informed, developed and endorsed by John and his work, visit Awaken to Meaning’s calendar to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. . John Vervaeke: | | |
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The Return of the Sacred: Mysticism, Tradition, and the Challenge of Modernity
06/06/2025
The Return of the Sacred: Mysticism, Tradition, and the Challenge of Modernity
Ritual, Wisdom, and What’s Lost Sebastian Morello was trained in philosophy by Sir Roger Scruton and Andrew Pinsent. He is a lecturer, columnist, and popular public speaker in the United Kingdom and throughout Europe. Morello has previously co-authored books on subjects of philosophy and education. He lives in Bedfordshire, England, with his wife and children. Each quarter, John engages in thought-provoking extended conversations with a leading expert in psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. Each season offers a unique exploration, bringing together their diverse fields of knowledge to create fresh insights and understanding. These in-depth discussions, chaptered for your convenience, offer nuanced perspectives and integrative approaches to navigating our complex world. The first episode is free and publicly available. To follow the rest of the season as well as gain access to previous discussions, you can sign up at the Beta Tier (and above) on The Lectern at the . If you would like to donate purely out of goodwill to support John’s work, please consider joining our . The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. . If you would like to learn and engage regularly in practices that are informed, developed and endorsed by John and his work, visit Awaken to Meaning’s calendar to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. . John Vervaeke: | | | Sebastian Morello: | "What practices and philosophical frameworks can help us recover a sense of the sacred in an age dominated by disenchantment and institutional collapse?" John Vervaeke and Sebastian Morello engage in an expansive dialogue that traverses the authority crisis in the Catholic Church, the enduring wisdom of Neoplatonism, and the transformative power of Hermetic practices. Anchored in Morello’s provocative new book, Mysticism, Magic and Monasteries, the conversation unpacks the “double crisis” of our time- one of meaning and one of sanctity, and argues that modernity functions like a spell that must be broken. Together, they examine how monasticism once offered a stable and embodied sanctity, and why recovering mysticism, ritual magic (in the Hermetic sense), and lived devotion might be essential for collective reawakening. Notes: (0:00) Welcome to The Lectern (0:30) John reconnects with Sebastian Morello (3:00) Sebastian Gives a Brief Introduction of Himself (6:00) Diagnosing the Double Crisis - Meaning and Authority (9:00) Critique of Modernity and the Catholic Church (12:00) The Loss of Embodied Wisdom in the West (20:00) Neoplatonism and the Need for Relational Ontology (26:30) Philosophical Anthropology and Cosmic Personhood (31:00) Modernity’s Ontological Truncation (38:30) Sacred Authority and the Failures of Clericalism (42:00) Monasteries as Alternatives to Institutional Collapse (49:00) Christian Liturgy as Baptized Theurgy (54:00) Hermetic Cognition - Practicing the Theocentric Vision (1:00:00) Recovering Sacred Imagery - Tarot, Ritual, and Mystical Space (1:04:00) Digital Gnosticism and the Threat to Embodiment (1:07:00) The Future of Privacy - Personhood, Property, and Charity (1:11:00) The Philosophical Silk Road - East-West Interpenetration
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What AI Can Never Be | John Vervaeke
05/30/2025
What AI Can Never Be | John Vervaeke
Can artificial intelligence truly become wise? In this landmark lecture, John Vervaeke explores the future of AI through a lens few dare to examine: the limits of intelligence itself. He unpacks the critical differences between intelligence, rationality, reasonableness, and wisdom—terms often used interchangeably in discussions around AGI. Drawing from decades of research in cognitive science and philosophy, John argues that while large language models like ChatGPT demonstrate forms of generalized intelligence, they fundamentally lack core elements of human cognition: embodiment, caring, and participatory knowing. By distinguishing between propositional, procedural, perspectival, and participatory knowing, he reveals why the current paradigm of AI is not equipped to generate consciousness, agency, or true understanding. This lecture also serves as a moral call to action: if we want wise machines, we must first become wiser ourselves. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . — 00:00 Introduction: AI, AGI, and the Nature of Intelligence 02:00 What is General Intelligence? 04:30 LLMs and the Illusion of Generalization 07:00 The Meta-Problems of Intelligence: Anticipation & Relevance Realization 09:00 Relevance Realization: The Hidden Engine of Intelligence 11:30 How We Filter Reality Through Relevance 14:00 The Limits of LLMs: Predicting Text vs. Anticipating Reality 17:00 Four Kinds of Knowing: Propositional, Procedural, Perspectival, Participatory 23:00 Embodiment, Consciousness, and Narrative Identity 27:00 The Role of Attention, Care, and Autopoiesis 31:00 Culture as Niche Construction 34:00 Why AI Can’t Participate in Meaning 37:00 The Missing Dimensions in LLMs 40:00 Rationality vs. Reasonableness 43:00 Self-Deception, Bias, and the Need for Self-Correction 46:00 Caring About How You Care: The Core of Rationality 48:00 Wisdom: Aligning Multiple Selves and Temporal Scales 53:00 The Social Obligation to Cultivate Wisdom 55:00 Alter: Cultivating Wisdom in an AI Future — The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission: https://vervaekefoundation.org/ Join Awaken to Meaning to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships: https://awakentomeaning.com/ — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode: Jeff Hinton Jordan Peterson Keith Stanovich Michael Levin Stroop Effect Bertrand Russell Plato (Republic, Symposium) Predictive Processing Relevance Realization Spearman (1926) DeepMind (DeepSeek) — Follow John Vervaeke: https://johnvervaeke.com/ https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke — Thank you for watching!
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Sacredness After Deconstruction
05/16/2025
Sacredness After Deconstruction
Britt Hartley is a certified spiritual director, meditation teacher, and leading voice in secular spirituality, specializing in religious trauma, deconstruction, and nihilism recovery. With a Master’s in Applied Theology, doctoral work in Open and Relational Theology (ABD), and training across Sufi, Mormon, and meditation traditions, she is the author of No Nonsense Spirituality: All the Tools, No Faith Required and a respected scholar on Gen Z and the future of American religion. Britt Hartley: | | Each quarter, John engages in thought-provoking extended conversations with a leading expert in psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. Each season offers a unique exploration, bringing together their diverse fields of knowledge to create fresh insights and understanding. These in-depth discussions, chaptered for your convenience, offer nuanced perspectives and integrative approaches to navigating our complex world. The first episode is free and publicly available. To follow the rest of the season as well as gain access to previous discussions, you can sign up at the Beta Tier (and above) on The Lectern at the . If you would like to donate purely out of goodwill to support John’s work, please consider joining our . The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. . If you would like to learn and engage regularly in practices that are informed, developed and endorsed by John and his work, visit Awaken to Meaning’s calendar to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. . John Vervaeke: | | | "How can someone rebuild meaning, a sense of the sacred, and genuine connection after religion, without having to adopt beliefs they no longer hold?" John Vervaeke is joined by Atheist Spiritual Director, Britt Hartley to explore what happens after belief falls apart. Britt shares her personal journey through suicidal nihilism and how mysticism, resonance, and play led her to rediscover meaning and orientation in life without needing to return to religion. John and Britt challenge the limits of therapeutic models, explore the difference between propositional truth and lived wisdom, and ask whether modern secular culture has lost the capacity to sustain sacredness. This Lectern is a philosophical act of compassion, bridging ancient spiritual technologies and contemporary existential pain. John and Britt offer pathways for transformation that bypass belief while restoring depth, connectedness, and awe. Notes: (0:00) Welcome to The Lectern (2:00) Meet Britt Hartley - Theological Background and Faith Crisis (5:00) The Descent into Suicidal Nihilism (10:00) Religion’s Collapse and the Meaning Crisis (15:00) Philosophical vs. Clinical Healing (16:00) Why Therapy ‘Fails’ the Nihilist (21:00) Religion, Secularism, and Building Your Own Path (26:30) Balancing Fundamentalism and Nihilism (31:00) ”The most spiritual atheist and the most deconstructed Christian, the space in between those two people when you actually look at their life is just a hair.” - Britt Hartley (34:30) The Triple Transcendent and Sacredness (40:30) Mysticism and the Sacred (45:30) Building a Life Worth Experiencing (53:00) The Role of Play and Resonance (55:00) Embodied Knowing and Existential Shifts (58:00) Trauma, Depression, and Resonance Recovery (1:09:30) Exploring 'Holy Envy' and Interfaith Learning (1:12:00) The Transformative Power of Sufism (1:19:00) Feminine Perspective on Religion (1:25:30) The Value of Tailored Spiritual Practices
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Hacking Humanity: Data, Desire, and the Future of Free Will
05/08/2025
Hacking Humanity: Data, Desire, and the Future of Free Will
What happens when data knows us better than we know ourselves? In this raw and riveting conversation, John Vervaeke and Christopher Mastropietro sit down with Andy Russell — a former architect of data-driven persuasion — to expose how AI, behavioral profiling, and social media algorithms can hijack human desire, threaten our agency, and reshape our civilization. But there’s hope: what if the same power that manipulates us can be used to heal us? This episode lays bare the disturbing origins of persuasion tech, how it was used in politics and commerce, and what it will mean when AI takes the driver’s seat. Andy shares his personal reckoning, his brush with death, and how he’s dedicating the rest of his life to restoring dignity and meaning to the human experience — with spiritual urgency. Andy Russell is a serial entrepreneur and former insider in data and media technology. After helping build some of the very tools that now shape persuasion online, he experienced a profound moral and existential crisis. He now advocates for radical transparency, decentralized AI, and human-centered design as a pathway toward societal healing. Christopher Mastropietro is a philosophical writer who is fascinated by dialogue, symbols, and the concept of self. He actively contributes to the Vervaeke Foundation. aims to build tools and systems that foster a healthier relationship between humanity and technology. Notes: (0:00) Introduction to the Series (1:00) Andy Russell’s Journey — From Data Pioneer to Whistleblower (4:00) The Origin of Data-Driven Persuasion Tech (6:30) Persuasion and Political Weaponization — The 2016 Turning Point (9:45) How Data and Emotion Drive Modern Media Campaigns (13:30) “Turning Humans into Puppets”: Behavioral Influence at Scale (15:30) Personal Collapse — Andy’s Reckoning with His Role (18:00) Between Frodo and Boromir: Can Anyone Wield the Ring? (23:30) Toward a Better Future — Rational Hope and Distributed AI (28:00) Scarcity, Hoarding, and the Death of Trust (33:00) Can Social Media Unite Rather Than Divide? (36:00) AI as a Tool for Healing and Transformation (40:30) Free Will and the Power of Influence (47:00) Hacking the Human Soul — Fear, Desire, and Belief (51:00) The Ethics of Deep Behavioral Nudging (58:00) From Suffering to Forgiveness: The Power of Redemption (1:05:00) Andy’s Story of Survival and Purpose (1:10:00) Building the Fellowship — Why This Fight Matters (1:15:00) Final Reflections and the Role of Virgil Connect with a global community devoted to human flourishing. The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to the pursuit of wisdom and advancing our collective capacity for meaning. Join the mission: Explore transformative practice and reflection through Awaken to Meaning: Support John Vervaeke’s ongoing work: Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned: The AI Dilemma (Tristan Harris) Cambridge Analytica The Social Dilemma (Netflix) Plato’s Republic Dante’s Divine Comedy Oppenheimer Syndrome The Rwandan Genocide and Forgiveness Ho’oponopono (Hawaiian Forgiveness Practice) Sundae Labs Free Will, Desires, and the Meaning Crisis Personalized AI vs. Centralized Persuasion Tech
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Lectern Q&As: The Virtue of Love | Featuring John Vervaeke, Ethan, and Ellie
04/16/2025
Lectern Q&As: The Virtue of Love | Featuring John Vervaeke, Ethan, and Ellie
Welcome to a special installment of the Lectern Q&A! This month’s theme is Love as a Virtue and Existential Stance. This session dives into the nature of love—not just as a feeling, but as a participatory, person-making virtue that binds us to reality and each other. Joining John and Ethan is Ellie, who brings both a deeply reflective presence and insightful contributions to this exploration. Lectern Q&As are a monthly gathering where John and Ethan take questions from The Lectern’s members, threading through important themes that are most pertinent and perplexing to the collective. Pre-submitted questions form the bulk of the discussion with a Live Q&A segment toward the end. These conversations are particularly important for generating knowledge that is relevant both to John and The Lectern’s broader audience. To participate in these discussions live, submit questions ahead of time and gain access to previous Q&As by signing up at the Alpha Tier (and above) on The Lectern: If you would like to donate purely out of goodwill to support John’s work, please consider joining our Patreon. The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. If you would like to learn and engage regularly in practices that are informed, developed, and endorsed by John and his work, visit Awaken to Meaning’s calendar to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. Chapter Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and Opening Reflections on Love 02:45 Love as an Existential Stance 05:00 Love, Participatory Knowing, and Binding Identity 08:45 Eros, Philia, and Agape: The Three Movements of Love 13:00 The Person-Making Nature of Love 17:00 Love as a Doorway to the Sacred 20:30 The Transformation of Self Through Love 23:45 Somatic and Embodied Knowing of Love 28:00 Trauma, Attachment, and the Challenge of Loving Well 32:10 Secure Attachment and Love as Practice 37:40 Circling, Dialectic, and Learning to Love Wisely 40:15 The Role of Worldview in Love and Meaning 46:50 A GI, the Sacred, and What We Truly Love About Humanity 54:20 The Ecology of Religions and Participatory Pluralism 59:30 Final Reflections from John, Ethan, and Ellie Biographical Sentences John Vervaeke is a cognitive scientist, philosopher, and the creator of the YouTube series Awakening from the Meaning Crisis. His work focuses on wisdom cultivation, consciousness, and the scientific pursuit of meaning. Ethan is a co-host and facilitator of the Lectern Q&A sessions. He curates conversations that illuminate existential, psychological, and philosophical insights emerging from the community and John’s teachings. Ellie is a scholar and practitioner deeply engaged in environmental science, interpersonal growth, and attachment theory. She brings a reflective, embodied perspective to the conversation on love. Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Søren Kierkegaard John Bowlby, Attachment Theory Sue Johnson, Hold Me Tight, Attachment Theory in Practice Eric Fromm, The Art of Loving Thomas Kuhn, Paradigms and Worldview Albert Camus, The Stranger Martin Buber, I and Thou Taoism and the concept of the Dao as Mother Mahayana Buddhism, Bodhisattva path Sufism and Divine Love Socratic Knowledge and Dialogos Circling & Dialectic into Dialogos Lauren Barrett, Emotionally Focused Therapy Halcyon Guild Pluralism in religion and spiritual practice Connect with John Vervaeke Website: Twitter: YouTube: Patreon: Thank you for Listening!
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Autonomy, Authenticity, and the Fragmented Self
04/09/2025
Autonomy, Authenticity, and the Fragmented Self
If you find yourself torn between rationality and spirituality, science and mysticism, facts and belief; The Lectern's inaugural 8-week course will offer you a new lens through which to reflect on these dilemmas. Click here to enroll: “What does it really mean to be authentic, and can this virtue be meaningfully understood and measured across psychology and philosophy?” John Vervaeke, Gregg Henriques and Matthew Schaublin embark on a discussion covering the concept of authenticity. The discussion explores authenticity as one of the premier virtues of modernity, comparing it with autonomy, and tracing its roots through romanticism and existentialism, notably discussing Heidgegger and Kierkegaard. Greg introduces psychological perspectives and client-centered therapy influenced by Carl Rogers, while Matthew shares insights from his empirical research on dispositional authenticity carried out at the University of Chattanooga. The trio also touch on the tensions between self-identification and participation, self-alienation, cognitive fluency, and the societal quest for authenticity, proposing a nuanced and dynamic understanding of the true self. Gregg R. Henriques is an American psychologist. He is a professor for the Combined-Integrated Doctoral Program at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Virginia, US. Matthew Schaublin is a master’s candidate in psychology at the University of Chattanooga, with a four-year research focus on authenticity. His work blends empirical psychology with philosophical and classical inquiry, investigating how dispositional authenticity is expressed and experienced. —- Notes: 0:00 Introduction to the Lectern 0:45 Exploring the Concept of Authenticity 3:30 Greg's Perspective on Authenticity 5:00 Matthew's Research on Dispositional Authenticity 9:00 Theoretical Foundations of Authenticity 12:30 Philosophical and Clinical Perspectives 24:30 Relational and Psychological Dimensions 36:30 The Evolution of Self-Definition in Modernity 38:00 The Greek Roots of Authenticity 39:30 Modeling Authenticity and Personality 43:15 Rationalization and Authenticity 44:45 Tensions in Authenticity: Identification vs. Participation 49:00 The SAFE Model of Authenticity 55:00 Empirical Studies on Authenticity and Agency 1:06:30 Key Takeaways and Future Directions —-- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our Patreon. The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join Awaken to Meaning to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: Gregg Henriques: Matthew Shaublin: Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Kierkegaard’s Concept of Authenticity Heidegger’s Use of ‘Authenticity’ Maslow’s Theory of Self-Actualization Dispositional Authenticity The SAFE Model of Authenticity Alienation and Cognitive Fluency The Ethics of Authenticity by Charles Taylor On the Concept of Irony and The Sickness Unto Death by Søren Kierkegaard Being and Time by Martin Heidegger On Becoming a Person by Carl Rogers Martin Heidegger Charles Taylor Aristotle Jean-Paul Sartre Quotes: ”Like, meaning, like rational, authenticity is not just a descriptive term.” -John Vervaeke (2:00) ”Inauthentic living… Tough, you know.” -Gregg Henriques (28:30)
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Redefining Human Flourishing: AI and the Meaning Crisis
03/14/2025
Redefining Human Flourishing: AI and the Meaning Crisis
As AI continues to advance and integrate into our daily lives, can it truly be designed to align with our deepest human values and moral principles? If so, how can we ensure that AI not only understands but also respects and promotes our ethical frameworks, without compromising our privacy or hindering our personal growth and autonomy? John Vervaeke, Christopher Mastropietro, and Jordan Hall embark on a nuanced exploration of the intricate relationship between AI and human flourishing. They explore the concept of "intimate AI," a personalized guardian that attunes to individual biometrics and psychometrics, offering a protective and challenging presence. The discussion underscores the critical importance of privacy, the perils of idolatry, and the urgent need for a new philosophical framework that addresses the meaning crisis. Jordan Hall is a technology entrepreneur with several years of experience building disruptive companies. He is interested in philosophy, artificial intelligence, and complex systems and has a background in law. Hall has worked for several technology companies and was the founder and CEO of DivX. He is currently involved in various think tanks and institutes and is focused on upgrading humanity's capacity for thought and action. Christopher Mastropietro is a philosophical writer who is fascinated by dialogue, symbols, and the concept of self. He actively contributes to the Vervaeke Foundation. Notes: (0:00) Introduction to the Lectern (0:30) Overview of Today’s Discussion: Can AI be in Alignment with Human Values? (1:00) The Three-Point Proposal - Individual Attunement, Decentralized and Distributed AI, Guardian AI (6:30) Individual AI Attunement (8:30) Distributed AI and Collective Intelligence (8:45) Empowerment of Agency through AI (12:30) The Role of Intimacy in AI Alignment - Why Relationality Matters (22:00) Can AI Help Develop Human Integrity? - The Challenge of Self-Alignment (28:00) Cultural and Enculturation Challenges (31:30) AI, Culture, and the Reintegration of Human Rhythms (38:00) Addressing Cocooning and Cultural Integration (47:00) Domains of Enculturation - Psychological, Economic, and Intersubjective (48:30) ”We're not looking necessarily for a teacher as much as we were looking for the teacherly opportunity in the encounters we're having.” (51:00) The Sanctity of Privacy and Vulnerability (1:07:00) The Role of Intimacy in Privacy (1:13:00) Final Reflections --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Jordan Hall: | | Christopher Mastropietro: Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Christopher Mastropietro Jordan Hall Jordan Peterson James Filler Spinoza Marshall McLuhan Plato Immanuel Kant The AI Alignment Problem Decentralized & Personal AI as a Solution The Role of Intimacy in AI Alignment Enculturation & AI’s Role in Human Integrity Privacy as More Than Just Protection The Republic – by Plato Critique of Pure Reason – by Immanuel Kant The Idea of the Holy – by Rudolf Otto Interpretation of Cultures – by Clifford Geertz
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Neoplatonism and the Ground of Relationality
02/25/2025
Neoplatonism and the Ground of Relationality
What if the deepest truth of reality lies not in substances or isolated things, but in the pure relationality that connects everything? John Vervaeke is joined by renowned scholar Douglas Hedley to explore James Filler's groundbreaking work "Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being." John and Douglas examine the profound implications of viewing ultimate reality as fundamentally relational rather than substantial, uncovering significant convergences between Heidegger's later thought and the ancient Neoplatonic tradition. The dialogue goes into how Neoplatonic metaphysics offers potent solutions to the philosophical dilemmas posed by modernity and postmodernity, and why the notion of strong transcendence is essential yet challenging in contemporary thought. Douglas enriches the discourse with reflections on imagination, symbolism, and theological significance within the Neoplatonic heritage. Douglas Hedley is Professor of the Philosophy of Religion at Cambridge University. He was educated at Keble College, Oxford and at the University of Munich, and has previously taught at Nottingham University. He is the Director of the Cambridge Centre for the Study of Platonism and co-chair of the Platonism and Neoplatonism section of the American Academy of Religion. Dr Hedley’s work centers on concepts of imagination, violence, and the sublime, and he has published widely, from early modern philosophy—particularly the Cambridge Platonists—to Coleridge. He is the Principal Investigator for the AHRC grant on The Cambridge Platonists at the Origins of Enlightenment: Texts, Debates, and Reception (1650-1730), and is co-editor of the Series Studies in Philosophical Theology. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . Notes: (0:00) Introduction to the Lectern (01:30) Douglas Headley's Background and Interests (03:30) Overview of James Filler's Argument (05:30) Critique of Substance Ontology (9:00) Neoplatonism and the Trinity (9:30) (10:30) Heidegger's Misreading of Plato (16:30) Heidegger's Theological Influences (26:00) Modernity, Postmodernity, and Transcendence (34:30) Eastern Orthodox Christianity and Neoplatonism (36:15) Pushback on the Trinity Concept (40:00) Greek and Russian Orthodox Traditions (43:00) Western Theology and Neoplatonism (49:30) Dialogical Model of the Self (55:00) Christian Neoplatonism and Love (59:30) Embodiment and Transcendence (01:04:30) Final Thoughts and Parting Words --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Substance Ontology vs. Relational Ontology Heidegger’s Relationship to Neoplatonism James Filler's Philosophical Contribution The Trinity as Relational Symbolism Mysticism and Theology Embodiment and the Contemporary Crisis of Meaning James Filler Plotinus Iamblichus St. Augustine Marius Victorinus Jonathan Pageau "The Iconic Imagination" by Douglas Hedley "Participation in the Divine" "Process and Reality" by Alfred North Whitehead "Symposium" by Plato
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Reconnecting to the Real | A Transformational Retreat
02/18/2025
Reconnecting to the Real | A Transformational Retreat
Join John Vervaeke, Guy Sengstock, and Kyle Koch as they invite you to a transformative retreat designed to help you reconnect to the real—deepening your connection to yourself, others, and the world around you. They explore the philosophical, spiritual, and psychological concepts behind the retreat and how these ideas will be integrated into the activities. Guy introduces his 'circling approach,' Kyle shares his nature-centered practices, and John elaborates on the importance of dialogical practices for cultivating wisdom and meaning. The retreat will take place from March 17th to 22nd, 2025 at Mount Mitchell Eco Retreat Center in North Carolina and aims to help participants deepen their connections with themselves, others, and the natural world. Lastly, the trio touches on the broader cultural implications of meaning in the age of advancing artificial intelligence, emphasizing the importance of shared, meaningful practices. - Spaces are limited to just 20 participants to ensure a deeply immersive, participatory experience where genuine connection and transformation can take place. This retreat is a fully participatory experience, where John, Guy, and Kyle will guide you through immersive practices while engaging in them alongside you. Each day follows a carefully designed flow: Morning Movement: Led by John or Sara, starting the day with embodied practice. Morning Sessions (9 AM - 12 PM): John will lead transformative practices, including meditation, contemplation, and deep philosophical inquiry. Afternoon Nature Connection (2 PM - 4 PM): Kyle and Guy will guide participants through core routines of nature connection, helping to cultivate a deeper relationship with the natural world. Evening Practices: John and Guy will lead Circling and Dialogical practices, fostering deep listening, relational intelligence, and transformative conversation. Throughout the retreat, you will learn and practice: Wisdom & Awareness Practices Dialectic into Dialogos Philosophical Fellowship Socratic Search Space Meditation & Contemplation Yoga The Circling Method & Relational Practices Group Circling Exercises 1-on-1 Circling Sessions Deep Listening & Communication Skills Core Routines of Nature Connection Sit Spot (Attuning to nature through stillness) Storytelling (Sharing and integrating experiences) Animal Forms (Embodied movement inspired by nature) Mapping (Developing a spatial awareness of the land) Bird Language (Understanding ecological intelligence through avian behavior) This retreat is an opportunity to engage deeply with practices that cultivate self-awareness, relational depth, and a profound connection to nature. Location: Cozy cabins and shared spaces with mountain views Organic and locally sourced meals Access to nature trails, meditation spaces, and quiet areas Pricing: Private Suite: $4800 Private Lodge: $4500 Shared Room: $4300 Dorm Room: $4,000 *Includes food Notes: (0:00) Welcome! Today’s special topic is ‘Reconnecting to the Real’ (1:00) Guy’s Introduction - The Power of Circling (3:00) Kyle’s Introduction - Embodied Practice & Nature Connection (4:00) Retreat Details (7:00) John’s Contribution - Dialogical & Imaginal Practices (9:00) Socratic Search Space - Exploring Virtue Through Dialogue (12:00) The Meaning Crisis & The Need for Embodied Wisdom (14:00) Guy's Circling Approach (16:00) Relational Presence & Deep Listening (21:00) The Existential Crisis of What it Means to be a Human Being (27:00) The Call to Practice Connection Now (37:30) ”Knowledge is knowing how to solve the problem and wisdom is knowing what problems to solve.” (40:00) “Theology would become the discipline for the future.” (41:00) The Shared Nature of Meaning (51:00) The Impact of Virtual Connection and Lose Connection (57:00) Rediscovering a Connection with Nature --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Guy Sengstock, the founder of the Circling method, is a renowned facilitator and innovator in the field of authentic communication and personal development. His method blends philosophical rigor with a deep understanding of relational dynamics, offering transformative experiences that foster genuine connection and self-awareness. Learn more about Guy Sengstock and his methods at his Kyle Koch is a movement expert and facilitator of nature-based embodiment practices, Kyle has been working with Evolve Move Play for over a decade, helping people reconnect with their bodies, the land, and the deeper rhythms of existence. He integrates physical play, ancestral movement, and relational presence into his work. Learn more about Kyle Koch at his
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The Interwoven Mind | Plotinus, Contemplation, and the Structure of Reality
02/14/2025
The Interwoven Mind | Plotinus, Contemplation, and the Structure of Reality
What is the true nature of contemplation, and how does it intertwine with our understanding of reality? John Vervaeke is joined by Mateusz Stróżyński to discuss his masterful work, Plotinus and the Contemplation of the Intelligible World. They explore the deep and often overlooked wisdom of Plotinus, one of history’s greatest thinkers. Together, they dive into the connection between thought and experience, revealing how contemplation isn’t just about thinking it’s about actively participating in reality itself. Mr. Stróżyński breaks down Plotinus’ intricate view of the universe, showing how everything is woven together in a way that challenges our modern, fragmented way of seeing the world. They go on to discuss the nature of the self and what it means to truly “know” something, touching on insights from Buddhist Dzogchen, Christian mysticism, and personal experience. Mateusz Stróżyński is a professor of classical philology at Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznań, Poland, and a practicing psychoanalyst. His research focuses on the intersection of Platonism, mysticism, and spirituality, exploring how ancient philosophical traditions inform modern contemplative practice. He is the author of Plotinus and the Contemplation of the Intelligible World. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . Notes: (0:00) Introduction to the Lectern (0:30) Mateusz Stróżyński joins John Vervaeke to explore Platonism (2:00) The Interplay of Philosophy and Experience (6:00) A Kinship Between Works (8:00) Interweaving Phenomenological and Conceptual Perspectives (11:30) The Role of Contemplation in Plotinus's Philosophy (15:30) The Threefold Structure of Consciousness (20:00) The Fall and the Multiplicity of Experience (30:00) The Hierarchical Nature of Reality (43:00) Fractal Coherence in Plotinus's Philosophy (50:30) Democratic Views and Reality Perception (52:00) Exploring Plotinus' Worldview (57:00) Plotinus' Analytical Approach (1:05:00) Mapping Cognition and Reality (1:16:30) Skepticism and Participatory Knowing (1:28:00) Modern Science and Metaphysics (1:34:30) Concluding Thoughts --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode The Nature of Contemplation Interweaving of Knowing and Being Fractal Metaphysics The Threefold Structure of Consciousness Modern vs. Premodern Worldviews The Relationship Between Science and Mysticism Plotinus Marcus Aurelius St. Augustine Nishida Kitarō “Plotinus and the Contemplation of the Intelligible World” by Mateusz Stróżyński “Waking, Dreaming, Being” by Evan Thompson Quotes: "Plotinus does not create a system—he reveals a dynamic interplay where intellect and experience are seamlessly interwoven." - Mateusz Stróżyński (10:00) "If we want to truly understand something, we must go beyond it—transcend it—because reality unfolds from higher principles." - John Vervaeke (15:00) "Everything that exists contemplates—existence itself is an act of seeing, an act of knowing." - – Mateusz Stróżyński (20:00)
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Rethinking Divinity: The Limited God and the Fine-Tuned Universe
01/31/2025
Rethinking Divinity: The Limited God and the Fine-Tuned Universe
"How does the concept of a 'limited God' differ from traditional theistic views, and what implications does this have for understanding the purpose of the universe and human existence?" John Vervaeke is joined by Phillip Goff to discuss his influential book, Why? The Purpose of the Universe, and his unique perspective on panpsychism. The duo discuss the intricate philosophical questions concerning the nature of consciousness, the purpose of the universe, and the existential meaning that interweaves with our fundamental worldview. Goff elucidates his nuanced yet respected stance on panpsychism, highlighting his academic contributions at Durham University. Goff introduces the concept of a "goddish" entity, explaining that the universe may have a sense of purpose or goal-directedness without adhering to traditional theistic views. Goff and John examine the commonalities between Goff's ideas and Neoplatonism, as well as Whitehead's process theology, noting the importance of a unifying principle in the universe. The dialogue also touches on holistic perspectives on health, highlighting the interconnectedness of physical, mental, and spiritual well-being. Phillip Goff is a philosophy professor at Durham University, UK, who dedicates most of his time to unraveling the ultimate nature of reality. In his recent book, Why? The Purpose of the Universe (Oxford University Press, 2023), he explores the middle ground between traditional belief in God and secular atheism. Goff recently converted to a form of 'heretical Christianity,' which he discusses in this article and this interview. Some of the big themes of his research include the nature of consciousness, panpsychism, and the purpose of the universe. He also actively engages in philosophical debates on X and Bluesky and co-hosts the podcast Mind Chat with Keith Frankish, a philosopher who holds polar opposite views. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . Notes: (0:00) Introduction to the Lectern (3:15) Philip Goff joins John to discuss Panpsychism (3:30) Background of Philip and his works (6:00) Exploring the Concept of God and Purpose (9:00) Debating Theistic and Non-Theistic Views (11:30) Beyond Traditional Theism (24:00) Eastern Orthodoxy and Neoplatonism (26:30) From Panpsychism to Faith (32:00) Challenging the Limited God (37:00) Divine Creativity and Limitations (46:00) Exploring Panentheism and God's Nature (47:00) The Vine and the Branches - Unity with God (50:00) The Meaning Crisis and Existential Questions (53:00) Four Pillars of Meaning in Life (56:30) Purpose vs. Orientation in Life's Meaning (1:02:30) ”There's a very important social role religion has played historically in bringing the community together, marking the seasons and the big moments of life, birth, coming of age, marriage, death. Giving people a framework and a focus for spiritual practice, a way of interpreting and responding to their deepest experiences.” (1:16:30) Reimagining Religion and Holistic Health (1:22:30) Parting Words --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode: Panpsychism Goddish entity Meaning Crisis Neoplatonism connection Whitehead's theology Holistic health Heretical Christianity John Hick Tim Mulgan David Bentley Hart Karen Armstrong Keith Frankish The Fifth Dimension The Interpretation of Religion Galileo's Error Fine-Tuning in Physics Cosmic Purpose and Human Contribution "The Interpretation of Religion" by John Hick "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" by John Vervaeke "Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature is Almost Certainly False" by Thomas Nagel "Life After Faith" by Philip Kitcher "The Case for God" by Karen Armstrong Quotes: "Every generation absorbs a worldview it can't see beyond. I think future historians will look back and ask, why did people ignore the evidence for cosmic purpose for so long?" (10:00) "Faith is not about certainty; it’s about trust—a way of interpreting your deepest experiences and shaping your fundamental life goals." (29:00) "If there’s purpose in the universe, maybe we can contribute to the meaning of existence itself. That’s a powerful and hopeful idea." (1:01:00) Philip Goff: | | — Thank you for Listening!
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How Jhana Meditation Facilitates Insight and Cognitive Flexibility
12/27/2024
How Jhana Meditation Facilitates Insight and Cognitive Flexibility
Question - "How does Jhana meditation simplify experience to facilitate insight and cognitive flexibility?" John Vervaeke is joined by Mark Miller, Rick Repetti, to explore the intersection of predictive processing, relevance realization, and embodied cognition in contemplative practices. They introduce PhD candidate Jonas Mago, who discusses his research on Jhana meditation and its impact on cognitive flexibility and insight. The conversation touches on contrasting Jhana practices with charismatic Christian traditions such as speaking in tongues. They also explore how Jhana states temporarily reduce the complexity of perception, allowing practitioners to observe the construction and deconstruction of their experiential models. The neuroscientific evidence provided, such as changes in brain responses during these states, adds depth to this exploration, illustrating how such simplification can lead to profound insights. Mark Miller, a philosopher and cognitive scientist, holds a senior research fellowship at Monash University's Center for Consciousness and Contemplative Studies in Australia, with affiliations at the University of Toronto and Hokkaido University in Japan. His work, which dives into the interplay between human thought, technology's impact on well-being, and human-computer interaction, is at the forefront of integrating cognitive neuroscience with philosophical inquiry. Rick Repetti is Professor of Philosophy at Kingsborough Community College, CUNY, USA. He is the author of The Counterfactual Theory of Free Will (2010), as well as several articles on Buddhism, meditation, free will, and philosophy of religion. Jonas Mago is a cognitive neuroscientist and wellbeing aficionado, deeply invested in understanding the cognitive and neurobiological mechanisms underlying human flourishing. His research explores contemplative practices designed to cultivate wholesome states of mind—spanning meditation, prayer, collective cultural rituals, and psychedelic therapies. I approach these topics from an interdisciplinary perspective, integrating cognitive science, neurobiology, computational modeling, and phenomenology to investigate mechanisms of self-regulation and transformation. He is currently pursuing my doctoral studies in Neuroscience at McGill University under the supervision of Dr. Michael Lifshitz, with co-supervision from Prof. Dr. Karl Friston. His academic journey includes a master’s degree in Mind, Language, and Embodied Cognition from the University of Edinburgh (UK) and undergraduate studies in Liberal Arts and Sciences at University College Maastricht (Netherlands). Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . Notes: (0:00) Introduction to the Lectern. This is the beginning of The Predictive Processing Series (0:30) Mark Miller, Rick Repetti, and Jonas Mago joins John Vervaeke (1:30) Predictive Processing and Meditation (4:00) Inside Jhanas Meditation (10:00) Phenomenology and Cognitive Functions of Jhanas (11:30) “Is Jhanas essential for the path of awakening?” (13:00) Predictive Coding and Cognitive Models (18:00) Jhana meditation and the transient nature of predictive models (25:00) Analysis of the risks and benefits associated with Jhana practice (30:00) EEG Studies on Jhana Practitioners (37:00) Jhana versus Pure Consciousness (45:00) High Arousal Contemplative States: Jhana and Christian prayer (54:00) The Importance of Context in Contemplative Practices (1:05:00) Final Words --- is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode: Predictive Processing Epistemic Vulnerability Metacognition Absorption States fMRI Studies Sangha EEG Studies Relevance Realization Embodied Cognition Jhana Meditation Thomas Metzinger Michael Lifshitz Alton Ram Dass Buddha Tanya Luhrmann Shaila Catherine Metzinger, T. (2021). The Elephant and the Blind: Insights into pure consciousness experiences. Lerman, T. (2012). When God Talks Back: A study on evangelical experiences of speaking in tongues. Quotes: “What we're trying in, in meditation is starting to model our predictive hierarchy of the brain opaque. So to notice that experience ultimately is not something that's, that's kind of a real grasp on reality, that all we have is this imprint of reality on our experiential or generative modeling, through this, this predictive hierarchy.” "The interplay between micro and macro perspectives mirrors the flexibility we aim for in meditation and science." "Epistemic vulnerability can be a doorway to growth if properly framed—or a risk without it." Mark Miller: | | | Rick Repetti: | | Jonas Mago: | | — Thank you for Listening!
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Philosophical Connections: Relational Ontology and the Modern Crisis
11/22/2024
Philosophical Connections: Relational Ontology and the Modern Crisis
John Vervaeke engages in a profound discussion with James Filler, author of 'Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being'. They examine the core arguments of Jame’s book, which emphasizes relationality as more fundamental than individual existence in understanding reality. The conversation explores Neoplatonism, Heidegger's philosophy, and the convergence of these ideas with contemporary physics and biology. James recounts his journey in developing his dissertation into a pivotal work aimed at reorienting ontological perspectives. John and James also discuss the trajectory of Western and Eastern Christian thought, touching upon relational ontology's scientific and ethical ramifications. James Filler is the author of Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being, a groundbreaking work exploring the philosophical underpinnings of relational ontology. His forthcoming book, Substance Ontology and the Crisis of Reason deepens the critique of substance thinking in Western philosophy. Notes: (0:00) Welcome to the Lectern (1:00) Core themes of Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being (3:00) Background of James Filler (5:30) Core argument of the book (10:00) The philosophical debate between Parmenides and Heraclitus (15:00) Ontological relationality and its philosophical implications (25:00) Heidegger's dialogue with Asian philosophy and the Christian trinity (34:00) Western vs. Eastern Christianity - diverging paths (40:00) A critique of Process Philosophy (48:30) The conceptual and ethical implications of historical Christian interpretations (51:30) Distinction between discursive and non-discursive reasoning (58:30) Substance ontology and the crisis of reason (1:03:00) Addressing the crisis of rationality in modernity (1:11:00) Final reflections on relationality and its broader impacts --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Martin Heidegger Plotinus Aristotle St. Gregory Heraclitus Parmenides Plato Jordan Hall Evan Thompson Relationality Neoplatonism Substance Ontology Trinity Process Philosophy Virtue Epistemology Humility Dialogical Rationality "Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being" by James Filler "Substance Ontology and the Crisis of Reason" by James Filler (upcoming book) "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" by John "Recovering Plato: A Platonic Virtue Epistemology" by James Filler (published in Episteme) "The Divine Matrix" by David Ray Griffin "The One" by Paas "Being and Time" by Martin Heidegger "The Republic" by Plato "The Enneads" by Plotinus "Metaphysics" by Aristotle Quotes: "Relationality is itself more primordial, more fundamental to understanding the nature of reality." "To be independent in the first place required a relation—because to be independent means there's something you're independent from." "Our rationality operates best dialogically, not nomologically, which aligns deeply with relational ontology."
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Decoding the Enigma of Consciousness: Life, Cognition, and the Nature of Awareness | Evan Thompson
10/04/2024
Decoding the Enigma of Consciousness: Life, Cognition, and the Nature of Awareness | Evan Thompson
John Vervaeke and Evan Thompson continue the exploration of life, cognition, and consciousness, drawing from interdisciplinary collaboration and philosophical discourse. The discussion challenges reductionist perspectives in biology, examines organisms as autonomous agents, and questions the adequacy of current models to explain life's complexities. Consciousness is explored through presence and embodiment, while also debating the roles of large language models like ChatGPT in understanding cognitive processes. By integrating philosophical and phenomenological perspectives, the episode addresses the interconnectedness of consciousness, cognition, and life, transcending traditional mind-matter dichotomies and emphasizing the significance of embodiment in cognitive functions. Evan Thompson is a philosopher and author, specializing in the integration of cognitive science, philosophy of mind, and Asian philosophical traditions. Based at the University of British Columbia, his work, including his recent book 'The Blind Spot', examines the intersections of consciousness, experience, and reality through a comprehensive interdisciplinary approach. Immerse yourself in the groundbreaking insights of Evan Thompson's thought-provoking book, Notes: (0:00) Introduction: Welcome to the Lectern (0:15) Evan Thompson's Background and the Book 'The Blind Spot' (2:10) (2:30) Revolution in Biology: Life, Cognition, and Consciousness (5:00) Autonomous Agents vs. Machines (11:30) Challenges to Newtonian Mechanics and Reductionist Ontology (22:00) Life as Self-Enabling, Not law-Entailing (32:00) Historical and Nomological Explanations in Biology (39:00) Epiphenomenalism (43:00) Debunking Computational Functionalism (45:00) Exploring Cognition and Relevance Realization (49:00) Limits of AI (51:00) The Energy and Social Costs of AI (1:00:00) Structures of Consciousness (1:08:00) The Primacy of Awareness and Embodiment (1:22:00) Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Evan Thompson: | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - book co-authored by Evan Thompson, Adam Frank, and Marcelo Gleiser Waking, Dreaming, Being: Self and Consciousness in Neuroscience, Meditation, and Philosophy - book by Evan Thompson Why I Am Not a Buddhist - book by Evan Thompson The Nature of Selection: Evolutionary Theory in Philosophical Focus by Elliott Sober The Watchmen (comic series) by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons The Relevance Realization (paper) by John Vervaeke and colleagues Chalmers' work on consciousness works by David Chalmers The Visible and the Invisible by Maurice Merleau-Ponty Neoplatonism Hegelian Philosophy Immanuel Kant Alfred North Whitehead Douglas Harding Marcelo Gleiser Quotes: “Organisms are autonomous agents, not machines.” -Evan Thompson (4:00) “Consciousness has the order of priority in terms of intelligibility or meaning.” -Evan Thompson (1:04:00)
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Lectern Dialogues: Concept of Daimon in Pre-Platonic and Platonic Thought | Charles Stang
09/27/2024
Lectern Dialogues: Concept of Daimon in Pre-Platonic and Platonic Thought | Charles Stang
In this episode, John Vervaeke and Harvard professor Charles Stang explore the concept of the 'daimon’', stemming from Stang's book Our Divine Double. John and Charles discuss semi-autonomous entities in psychological and philosophical contexts, linking ancient wisdom and modern cognitive science. Key topics include Socratic 'daimonion', Platonic thought, phenomenology of visionary encounters, and cultural ontology. They emphasize the embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended nature of cognition, highlighting the relevance of understanding these phenomena amid emerging technologies like AGI and virtual realities. The episode calls for Socratic self-awareness to navigate these transformative potentials and risks. Charles Stang is a Professor of Theology at Harvard Divinity School and Director of the Center for the Study of World Religions. His research focuses on ancient Mediterranean religions, Neoplatonism, and contemporary philosophy and spirituality. His research and teaching focus on the history of Christianity in the context of the ancient Mediterranean world, especially Eastern varieties of Christianity. More specifically, his interests include: the development of asceticism, monasticism, and mysticism in Christianity; ancient philosophy, especially Neoplatonism; the Syriac Christian tradition, especially the spread of the East Syrian tradition along the Silk Road; other philosophical and religious movements of the ancient Mediterranean, including Gnosticism, Hermeticism, and Manichaeism; and modern continental philosophy and theology, especially as they intersect with the study of religion. Notes: (0:00) Introduction: Welcome to the Lectern (2:30) Charles Stang, Background, Framework (4:45) John’s Experience and Dialogue with Hermes (IFS) (7:45) IFS (Internal Family Systems) - a psychotherapy model that focuses on dialoguing with various parts of the self (10:00) Platonic Tradition and Daimonology (15:00) Socrates and the Concept of Daimonion in Plato's Apology (20:40) Real-Life Accounts of Felt Presence (28:00) Socrates' Complex Relationship with the Imaginal (33:00) Socrates' Authority vs. Rational Argument (41:30) Corbin's Notion of the Imaginal (46:30) Daimonology and Angelology - Encounters with the Higher Self (49:00) The Role of Hermes in Personal Encounters (54:30) Lucid Dreaming and Cognitive Science (1:03:30) The Interplay of Subjective and Objective Realities (01:12:00) Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions --- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. John Vervaeke: | | | Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Plato, Apology Plato, Republic Charles Stang, Our Divine Double John Geiger, The Third Man Factor: Surviving the Impossible Henry Corbin, The Man of Light in Iranian Sufism Henry Corbin, Alone with the Alone: Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn 'Arabi' Gregory Shaw, Theurgy and the Soul: The Neoplationism of Iamblichus Socrates Socratic philosophy Daimonion (Divine sign) David Gordon White, Daemons Are Forever: Contacts and Exchanges in the Eurasian Pandemonium Porphyry, Life of Plotinus Daimonology Paul VanderKlay Christopher Mastropietro Carl Jung Theurgy Internal Family Systems (IFS) Quotes: "Socrates’ daimonion was unique in that it only ever told him ‘no,’ which highlights its role as a dissuading force rather than a guiding one." — Charles Stang (13:30) “One of the things that seems to be a requirement for rationality is a metacognitive ability, ability to step back and reflect, and know, become aware of your cognition so that you can redirect it. In fact, that seems to be an essential feature. If you don't have that, if your attention and intelligence couldn't ever do this reflective thing, then it's hard to know how you could ever be rational in the, in the way we seem to indicate like noticing bias or noticing fallacy or noticing misdirection.” — John Vervaeke (39:40)
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Metaphysics of Mattering | John Vervaeke on Life’s Deep Connections
09/13/2024
Metaphysics of Mattering | John Vervaeke on Life’s Deep Connections
In this presentation delivered at the "Metaphysics and the Matter with Things: Thinking with Iain McGilchrist" conference—a collaborative event by the Center for Process Studies (CPS) and the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in March 2024—John Vervaeke explores the concept of "mattering" and its critical role in understanding the meaning of life. He contrasts "meaning in life" with the broader "meaning of life," emphasizing the importance of connectedness and belonging over mere purpose. Vervaeke draws on research to introduce "religio," a deep sense of connectedness that underpins our existence, and critiques materialism for overlooking the relational aspects of human life. Through cognitive science, biology, and philosophy, Vervaeke demonstrates how our intelligence and problem-solving abilities are deeply intertwined with our capacity to find what truly matters. — Metaphysics and the Matter with Things: Thinking with Iain McGilchrist was a collaborative conference put on by the Center for Process Studies (CPS) and the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in March of 2024. This three-day conference brought leading process thinkers across various disciplines, including physics, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, and theology, into critical dialogue with McGilchrist’s work in a collegial effort to assess, question, extend, and apply it. For more information on the conference and to purchase recordings, please visit Embark on a journey of personal growth and meaning with us. Join our Patreon community, where shared wisdom fuels transformation. — 0:00 Introduction to the Metaphysics of Mattering 1:05 Meaning in Life: Purpose, Coherence, Significance, and Mattering 6:40 Connectedness and Religio 10:10 Relevance Realization and General Intelligence 12:45 The Problem of Relevance Realization 21:20 Formalization and Ill-Defined Problems 27:10 Relationality and the Sacred — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Matthew Segall Richard Tarnas Kelly-Ann Allen Evan Thompson Read Montague Michael Levin Aristotle Zak Stein Nietzsche Iain McGilchrist Christopher Cherniak Jerry Fodor J.L. Schellenberg Relevance Realization Religio Conformity theory Duhem–Quine thesis, Susan Wolf, Meaning in Life and Why It Matters John Searle, The Rediscovery of the Mind Catherine Pickstock, Aspects of Truth: A New Religious Metaphysics Harold Brown, Rationality James Filler, Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground J. Jaeger, A. Riedl, A. Djedovic, J. Vervaeke, and D. Walsh, Naturalizing relevance realization: why agency and cognition are fundamentally not computational Frank Martela and Michael F. Steger, Distinguishing coherence, purpose, and significance Follow John Vervaeke: | | | — Thank you for Listening!
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Exploring Adolescence and the Meaning Crisis with IFS Therapy | Kasra Mirzaie & Dr Robin Barre
09/03/2024
Exploring Adolescence and the Meaning Crisis with IFS Therapy | Kasra Mirzaie & Dr Robin Barre
Kasra Mirzaie is a clinical researcher, psychotherapist, and university teacher. His work focuses on adolescents, examining the intersection of psychotherapy, dynamical systems theory, and the meaning crisis. Kasra is dedicated to exploring how self-organizing criticality and Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy can drive transformation and personal growth in young people. Dr Robin Barre has over 30 years of experience working with adolescents. Her dissertation focused on trauma and the archetypal nature of adolescence. She runs a small psychotherapy practice and consults with parents, caregivers, and organizations to enhance adolescent well-being. How does the intricate dance of self-organizing criticality relate to the turmoil and transformation of adolescence? In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke, Kasra Mirzaie, and Dr Robin Barre explore the transformative potential of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy in addressing the meaning crisis and supporting adolescents on their developmental journey. The conversation delves into the complex interplay of IFS, dynamical systems, and the critical phase transition of adolescence. They discuss principles such as self-organizing criticality, entropy, and insight, explaining how these concepts drive change and present unique challenges and opportunities. The episode highlights cultural shortcomings, the significance of wisdom traditions, and the role of IFS as a modern initiation process. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . — 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions 02:45 Self-Organizing Criticality & IFS 07:20 Entropy and Insight in Change 20:20 Curiosity and Transformation 23:15 Adolescence and the Meaning Crisis 47:05 Culture's Disabling Effects 50:00 IFS Initiation for Adolescents 01:04:50 Remembering Adolescence and Navigating Mistakes 01:13:40 Communicating Conflict and Validating Adolescents 01:21:10 Embracing Transformation in Adolescence and the Meaning Crisis — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Tatjana Schnell Dr Kelly-Ann Allen Bill Plotkin James Hillman Vygotsky Richard Frankel, The Adolescent Psyche National Scientific Council on Adolescence, Cultivating Purpose in Adolescence Relevant Episodes Follow John Vervaeke: | | | — Thank you for Listening!
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Beyond Atheism: Finding Meaning in the Secular Age
08/28/2024
Beyond Atheism: Finding Meaning in the Secular Age
Can we find meaning in a world without religion? In this episode first released on Dissident Dialogues, Freddie Sayers hosts John Vervaeke and Alex O'Connor, formerly known as Cosmic Skeptic, to explore the deep question of meaning in an increasingly secular world. They discuss the historical role of religion in providing purpose and narrative, the modern challenges of finding meaning, and the rise of non-propositional forms of knowledge and practice. O'Connor and Vervaeke share personal anecdotes and philosophical insights, highlighting the timeless struggle for meaning, the limitations of relying solely on logical arguments, and the potential of emerging communities and practices to fill the void left by traditional religious structures. — Embark on a journey of personal growth and meaning with us. Join our Patreon community, where shared wisdom fuels transformation. — 00:00 Introduction: The Loss of American Narrative 02:00 The Meaning Crisis in a Secular Age 04:32 Exploring Atheism and Meaning 07:35 Philosophical Perspectives on Meaning 12:35 The Role of Non-Propositional Knowledge 18:31 The Search for New Narratives 30:19 Conclusion: Emerging Communities and Future Prospects — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. Follow us: John Vervaeke: | | | Alex O’Connor: Freddie Sayers: Dissident Dialogues: | | — Thank you for Listening!
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From Monasteries to Boardrooms: Integrating Spirituality and Leadership | Nicholas Janni
08/23/2024
From Monasteries to Boardrooms: Integrating Spirituality and Leadership | Nicholas Janni
Nicholas Janni is a pioneer in executive development, having co-founded Olivier Mythodrama Associates, where he created leadership programs based on Shakespearean stories. He continues to work globally with leaders and organizations through his consultancy, Core Presence, and his innovative 'Leader as Healer' program, which promotes integrated, conscious leadership. How can the ancient practices of spirituality and modern leadership development intersect to create transformative experiences? In this episode of “Voice with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke and Nicholas Janni explore this question through a conversation about leadership, spirituality, and human connection. Nicholas shares his transformative journey, from his school days to his encounters with Tibetan Buddhism and immersive theater, which led him to develop a unique approach to spiritual and embodied leadership. They discuss the importance of leaders connecting with their bodies, emotions, and the transpersonal, and the role of practices like bodywork, deep breathing, and poetry in facilitating this connection. Their conversation also explores the metaphysical realm, including prayer and spiritual guidance, and their impact on leadership. John and Nicholas discuss the cultural implications of their work and stress the importance of leaders who can promote this holistic approach to leadership and foster supportive communities for transformative experiences. Dive deeper into the journey of personal growth and meaning by becoming part of our community, where shared wisdom fuels transformation. — 00:00 Introduction: Convergence of Spirituality and Leadership 11:25 From Theatre to Leadership Consultancy 16:40 The Birth of 'Leader as Healer' 23:35 Reawakening Non-Propositional Thinking 43:40 The Transformative Power of Poetry 48:05 Therapy vs. Transformational Work 51:10 Integrating Awakening and Healing 01:02:55 Addressing the Modern Meaning Crisis 01:15:50 Embracing Prayer, Reverence, and Connectedness 01:24:30 Concluding Thoughts: The Imperative to Wake Up — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Nicholas Janni, Leader as Healer Heinrich Päs, The One: How an Ancient Idea Holds the Future of Physics Vivian Dittmar Richard Olivier Shakespeare's Globe Theatre Shakespeare, W. Henry V. Shakespeare, W. Julius Caesar. Shakespeare, W. The Tempest. Malidoma Somé Michael Meade Patrick Connor Charles Taylor David Wyatt Mary Oliver, Wild Geese. Plato René Descartes Relevant Episodes Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Nicholas Janni: | | — Thank you for listening!
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Metamodern Christianity Part 2: Evolving Spirituality and the Sacred Universe | Brendan Graham Dempsey
08/16/2024
Metamodern Christianity Part 2: Evolving Spirituality and the Sacred Universe | Brendan Graham Dempsey
Brendan Graham Dempsey is the director of Sky Meadow Institute and the author of the Metamodern Spirituality Series. He explores the evolution of spirituality and the integration of science and religion in contemporary culture. To learn more about his latest book release, "A Universal Learning Process," which is the first volume in his series "The Evolution of Meaning," please visit this . Can Metamodern Christianity breathe new life into ancient religious frameworks? In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and Brendan Graham Dempsey continue their exploration of MetaModern Christianity in part two of their discussion. Building on their previous conversation, which addressed the potential for metamodern spirituality to rejuvenate the Christian faith, they delve deeper into the integration of ancient doctrines with contemporary thought. They tackle the limitations of traditional religious frameworks, explore the concept of ultimate reality and the sacred through a non-theistic lens, and emphasize the significance of dialogical relationships in meaning-making. Vervaeke and Dempsey connect these insights to broader philosophical and cultural themes, examining the evolution of spiritual maturity, the interplay between personhood and the universe, and the integration of scientific and mystical perspectives. — Embark on a journey of personal growth and meaning with us. Join our Patreon community, where shared wisdom fuels transformation. — 00:00 Introduction and Recap of Part One 00:45 Brendan's Work on Metamodern Spirituality 02:45 Ultimate Reality and the Sacred 13:25 Integrating Critiques: Schellenberg, Transcendence, and Non-Theism 16:50 Meaning and Learning in Sacred Evolution 29:20 Dialogical Relationship with the Sacred 41:45 God as Cosmic Self-Realization 50:00 Prayer and Maturation in Deep Time 54:30 Prayer and Transpersonal Dialogue 58:30 Prayer and Ultimate Reality 01:15:05 Conclusion: The Evolution of Meaning and the Sacred — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode J.L. Schellenberg Gregg Henriques Rudolf Otto Clifford Geertz Carl Sagan Meister Eckhart Paul Tillich Iain McGilchrist Martin Heidegger Michael Levin Epicurus Bobby Azarian Kasra Mirzaie Leonard Angel Spinoza John Hick Dan Chiappe Paul Tillich Dionysus Brendan Graham Dempsey, A Universal Learning Process (The Evolution of Meaning) Matt Rossano, Ritual in Human Evolution and Religion Joseph A. Bracken, The Divine Matrix: Creativity As Link Between East and West Leonard Angel, Enlightenment East and West Relevant Episodes Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Brendan Graham Dempsey: | | — Thank you for Listening!
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Saintliness and the Philosophical Silk Road | Christopher Mastropietro & Andrew Sweeny
08/09/2024
Saintliness and the Philosophical Silk Road | Christopher Mastropietro & Andrew Sweeny
Have we confined the true essence of sainthood within too narrow a boundary? In this episode of 'Voices with Vervaeke,' John Vervaeke welcomes Christopher Mastropeitro and Andrew Sweeny for a discussion that delves into the philosophical and spiritual dimensions of their innovative project, the Philosophical Silk Road. Together, they challenge contemporary notions of sainthood and wisdom, drawing connections between Zen Buddhism, Neoplatonism, and Tantric practices. Through personal anecdotes and reflective dialogue, the trio examines the essence of saints and sages, the importance of humor and humility in spiritual journeys, and the delicate balance between our finite existence and the quest for transcendence. Join John, Chris, and Andrew as they share their spiritual paths and encounters with saintly figures, advocating for a renewed appreciation of the sacred in our modern world. Andrew Sweeny is an educator, writer, musician, and podcaster. He teaches at Sciences Po University in Paris and is an editor at Parallax magazine. Sweeny explores Zen Buddhism, Tantric practices, and music through his media platform, Parallax, offering courses and podcasts. Christopher Mastropietro is a philosophical writer fascinated by dialogue, symbols, and the concept of self. He is the executive director and an active contributor to the Vervaeke Foundation, collaborating on projects exploring wisdom, spirituality, and transformative dialogue. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . — 00:00 Introducing the Guests and the Philosophical Silk Road 02:50 Andrew's Path: Zen, Tantra, and Music 05:05 Exploring the Philosophical Silk Road 07:00 Dialogos and Sacred Emergence 10:40 Setting the Stage: Connecting Zen, Neoplatonism, and Theurgy 21:40 Tantra's Influence in East and West 31:40 Reflections on Saintliness 44:25 The Enigma of Crazy Wisdom and Non-Conformity 52:10 Understanding the Hidden Order and Profound Humanity of Saints 01:09:05 The Role of Romanticism and Humor in Sainthood 01:17:40 Pilgrimage and the Saintly Path 01:19:30 Final Reflections — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Authors, Ideas, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Kitaro Nishida Alicia Juarrero Friedrich Nietzsche James Filler Erich Fromm Chögyam Trungpa Heidegger Plato Nagarjuna Christianity Neoplatonism Socrates Thomas Aquinas Augustine Joseph A. Bracken, The Divine Matrix: Creativity As Link Between East and West Gregory Shaw, Hellenic Tantra: The Theurgic Platonism of Iamblichus Shunryu Suzuki, Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind: Informal Talks on Zen Meditation and Practice Lotus Guru Padmasambhava, The Tibetan Book of the Dead Albert Camus, The Plague Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov; The Idiot Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Andrew Sweeny: | | Connect with — Thank you for listening! --- Key Words: Philosophical Silk Road, John Vervaeke, Andrew Sweeny, Christopher Mastropietro, Zen Buddhism, Neoplatonism, Tantra, dialogos, John Vervaeke podcast, Voices with Vervaeke, sacred journeys, spiritual growth, transformative dialogue, spiritual wisdom, cognitive science, psychology of religion, meaning crisis, philosophical podcasts, spiritual practices, Eastern and Western traditions, romanticism in spirituality, humor in spirituality, sacred and secular, spiritual transformation, evolutionary psychology
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Is IFS a Path to Self-Knowledge or Self-Deception? Insights from Kasra Mirzaie
08/02/2024
Is IFS a Path to Self-Knowledge or Self-Deception? Insights from Kasra Mirzaie
Kasra Mirzaie is a clinical researcher, psychotherapist, and university teacher. His work focuses on adolescents, exploring the interplay between psychotherapy, spirituality, and self-deception. Can understanding all parts of ourselves sometimes lead us away from the truth? In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke continues to explore Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with guest Kasra Mirzaie. They discuss the paradox of IFS as both a path to self-discovery and a potential source of self-deception. Their conversation covers the intersection of spirituality and science within IFS, offering listeners insights into this therapeutic approach. Mirzaie shares personal experiences, emphasizing the transformative roles of love and forgiveness in therapy. Vervaeke and Mirzaie also examine the philosophical and cognitive scientific foundations of IFS, setting the stage for future discussions on self-organizing criticality and the relationship between cognitive science and spirituality. This episode aims to broaden listeners' understanding of the self and provide new perspectives on human psychology. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . — 00:00 Introduction and Mirzaie's Background and Work 03:00 Exploring Self-Deception 17:00 The Role of Love and Forgiveness 22:50 The Spiritual Dimension of IFS 34:40 Self-Deception and Spiritual Bypassing 38:45 Spirit of Self-Deception: The Paradox of Adaptation and Growth 43:00 The Paradox of the Fall and Self-Consciousness 45:40 Relational Reality and the Self 59:50 The Therapeutic Approach to Trauma 01:06:25 Conclusion: Gratitude, Growth, and Ongoing Exploration — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Neoplatonism Mark Lewis Paul Vander Klay Seth Allison Marc Lewis Milton's Lucifer William Desmond Heidegger William Blake Filler Jung Nietzsche Vygotsky Nishita Kirkegaard Tom Holmes, Parts Work: a Path of the Heart: Healing Journeys Integrating IFS and Spirituality Christopher Ben Simpson, The William Desmond Reader Robert B. Brandom, A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology Relevant Episodes Follow John Vervaeke: | | | — Thank you for Listening! --- Keywords John Vervaeke, Kasra Mirzaie, Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, self-deception, spirituality and science, cognitive science foundations, love and forgiveness, personal transformation, self-organizing criticality, cognitive science and spirituality, relationality in therapy, self-identity and agency, therapeutic practices, modern spirituality, Voices with Vervaeke podcast
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Transforming Identity: The Power of IFS Therapy and Ancient Wisdom | Paul Vander Klay
07/26/2024
Transforming Identity: The Power of IFS Therapy and Ancient Wisdom | Paul Vander Klay
Paul Vander Klay is a minister at Living Stones CRC in Sacramento, CA, known for his engaging online discussions on faith and thoughtful community engagement. How can the convergence of ancient spiritual practices and modern cognitive science redefine our understanding of identity and collective wisdom? In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and Paul Vander Klay explore the intersections of personal transformation and collective wisdom. They discuss the role of spiritual practices like Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy in modern society and their implications for personal growth and collective understanding. The conversation highlights the significance of relationality in understanding agency and cognition, emphasizing how our relationships with others shape our sense of self and our ability to navigate the world. John and Paul also address the advent of the sacred in modern culture and the potential for new cultural cognitive grammars. They share insights from their personal and professional experiences, offering a thought-provoking exploration of modern spirituality and relational being. This episode leaves listeners with a deeper understanding of how personal growth and collective wisdom are intertwined. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . — 00:00 Introduction: Faith, Friendship, and Exploration 03:10 Exploring IFS Therapy, Dialogical Self, and Archetypal Experiences 08:50 Dialoguing with Hermes: Ally Work and Neoplatonic Traditions 14:00 Dialogical Models and Changing Public Perception of Humans 22:50 Rethinking the Self: Transjectivity, Relationality, and the Imaginal 28:00 Beyond Substance Ontology 55:00 Dialogical Presencing and Transjective Ontology in Religion 58:05 Communal Aspects of Christian Tradition 01:01:35 Dialogical Practice and Hermetic Consciousness 01:05:25 Therapeutic Practices and Self-Deception 01:12:15 Exploring the Sacred in IFS and Dialogical Practices 01:40:50 Conclusion: Embracing Vulnerability and Honesty — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Dialogical Practices Hermes (Guiding Figure) Proclus Plotinus Jordan Peterson Jonathan Pageau Seth Allison Kasra Mirzaie Richard Schwartz Marc Lewis Anderson Todd Jeffrey Raff Dallas Willard James Fuller Robert Falconer Sam Tideman Paul Kingsnorth Martin Shaw Richard Rohlin (Universal History) Gregory Shaw, Hellenic Tantra: The Theurgic Platonism of Iamblichus Ben Alderson-Day, Presence: The Strange Science and True Stories of the Unseen Other T. M. Luhrmann, How God Becomes Real: Kindling the Presence of Invisible Others Paul Ricoeur, Fallible Man: Philosophy of the Will Plato, The Seventh Letter Charles Taylor Neoplatonism Socrates Relevant Episodes Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Paul Vander Klay: | | — Thank you for Listening!
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Rediscovering Plato's Beauty | Thomas Jockin
07/19/2024
Rediscovering Plato's Beauty | Thomas Jockin
Thomas Jockin is a Fellow at the Halkyon Guild and the Founder of TypeThursday. He has taught at Pratt Institute, FIT (SUNY), Queens College (CUNY), and City College of New York (CUNY). Sign Up for Thomas Jockin’s Course: Can re-engaging with classical ideals of beauty help us address the meaning crisis? In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and Thomas Jockin explore the concept of beauty through the lens of Plato's philosophy. Thomas shares insights from his upcoming course, discussing the interconnectedness of beauty, truth, and goodness. They examine how modern interpretations of beauty differ from Plato's original vision and how re-engaging with classical ideals can address the current meaning crisis. John and Thomas challenge contemporary perspectives and seek to rediscover foundational principles. Join the discussion to learn more about the profound impact of beauty on our lives. Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our . — 00:00 Exploring Plato's Concept of Beauty with Thomas Jockin 01:10 Jockin’s Halcyon Course: Plato on Beauty and Virtue 04:25 The Cultural Decline of Beauty 08:00 Plato's Beauty: Love, Reason, and the Soul's Recollection 10:25 Philosophical Implications of Beauty, Love, and Truth 24:00 The Rationality of Beauty Beyond Propositions 31:45 The Cascade Effect of Moral Virtues in Everyday Life 35:55 Bridging the Material and the Divine 40:55 The Interconnectedness of Beauty, Goodness, and Truth 51:15 Modern Art and the Role of the Artist 01:08:15 Beauty as a Solution to the Meaning Crisis in Modern Art and Architecture 01:14:25 Conclusion: Returning to Foundations in the Modern World — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Plato. Greater Hippias. Plato. Symposium. Plato. Phaedrus. Plato. Meno. Plato. Cratylus. Plato. Parmenides. Sonia Sedivy, Beauty and the End of Art Byung-Chul Han, Saving Beauty Drew A. Hyland, Plato and the Question of Beauty D. C. Schindler, “The Primacy of Beauty, the Centrality of Goodness, and the Ultimacy of Truth” John Russon, Bearing Witness to Epiphany: Persons, Things, and the Nature of Erotic Life Duchamp (Fountain) Heidegger Maurice Merleau-Ponty Habermas Neoplatonism Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Thomas Jockin: | | — Thank you for Listening!
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Inside the Mind: Marc Lewis on Transformative Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy
07/12/2024
Inside the Mind: Marc Lewis on Transformative Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy
Marc Lewis is a neuroscientist and former professor of developmental psychology, who taught at the University of Toronto and Radboud University. He is the author of numerous journal publications and books, including Memoirs of an Addicted Brain and The Biology of Desire. How can understanding our internal parts lead to emotional healing and personal growth? In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and Marc Lewis explore Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy. They examine the emotional landscapes that shape our behaviors, the interaction of different parts of the mind, and the transformative potential of self-compassion in therapy. This conversation provides insights into psychological healing, challenging conventional views and offering new perspectives on personal growth and recovery. Embark on a journey with us to tackle the Meaning Crisis by joining our exclusive . — 00:00 Introduction: Understanding Addiction and Emotional Regulation through IFS Therapy 03:15 Marc's Academic Journey and Neuroscience Insights 05:35 The Power of IFS Therapy: A Faster Route to Healing and Understanding 11:35 Practical Applications of IFS and Why it Works 21:00 Dialoguing with Our Inner Selves 33:50 Exploring the Concept of Self in IFS 43:55 Bridging Therapy, Spirituality, and Emotional Healing 48:20 Balancing Growth, Responsibility, and the Role of the Self 01:00:00 Navigating Cultural Reactivity and Spiritual Dimensions 01:13:35 The Importance of Guidance and Pedagogical Preparation 01:17:15 Conclusion: The Evolving Nature of IFS Therapy and the Need for Continued Inquiry — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Plato, Republic Richard Schwartz, No Bad Parts Cece Sykes, Internal Family Systems Therapy for Addictions: Trauma-Informed, Compassion-Based Interventions for Substance Use, Eating, Gambling and More Wizard of Oz (film) Seth Allison Kasra Mirzaie Lucas Forstmeyer Gedankenexperiment Relevant Episodes Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Marc Lewis: | — Thank you for Listening!
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Transpersonal States: Awakening, Enlightenment, and the Ego | Vivian Dittmar
07/05/2024
Transpersonal States: Awakening, Enlightenment, and the Ego | Vivian Dittmar
Vivian Dittmar is an author, speaker, and wisdom teacher dedicated to enhancing holistic development for over two decades. Through her books and the Be the Change Foundation, she focuses on emotional intelligence, ecological sustainability, social justice, and spiritual fulfillment to address modern society's crises. What does it mean to truly transcend the ego and embrace a transpersonal state of being? In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke and Vivian Dittmar thoughtfully explore enlightenment, viewing it not as a final destination but as an ongoing journey of maturation and integration. They challenge conventional perspectives on enlightenment, proposing a more dynamic interplay between personal growth and spiritual awakening. By examining the delicate balance required to maintain higher states of consciousness while cultivating a healthy personal self, they illuminate the complexities of spiritual bypassing and the necessity of embracing imperfection. Their conversation also delves into the importance of vulnerability, aligning inner and outer worlds, the role of synchronicity, and the transformative power of confronting our own mortality. Join them as they unravel these intricate themes with intellectual rigor, poetic insight, and a commitment to deepening our understanding of what it means to lead a truly awakened life. Embark on a journey with us to tackle the Meaning Crisis by joining our exclusive . — 00:00 Introduction: Exploring Transpersonal and Transegoic States 02:10 Navigating the Spectrum of Egoic and Transrational Consciousness 07:20 Beyond the Social Conscience: Discovering the Voice of the Soul 12:35 Exploring the Implicate Order and Transrational Ways of Knowing 19:00 Redefining Spiritual Awakening and the Mythology Surrounding It 23:25 Bridging the Gap between Inner and Outer Worlds through Wisdom and Virtue 32:20 Cultivating a Healthy Personal Self after Enlightenment 43:45 Beyond Spiritual Bypassing and the Pursuit of Perfection in the Journey Towards Wholeness 57:00 Facing Mortality: A Journey Towards Wholeness and Maturity 01:18:00 Conclusion: Reflections on Convergence, Gratitude, and the Quest for True Prosperity — is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. — Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode The Death of Ivan Ilyich, by Leo Tolstoy David Bohm Plato Carl Jung Leo Tolstoy Spinoza Fallible Man, by Paul Ricoeur Relevant Episodes — Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Vivian Dittmar: | Workshops/Courses: Books: — Thank you for Listening!
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Beyond the Binary: Science and Spirituality Unite | Transcendent Naturalism #14 with Henriques, Alderman, and Layman
06/28/2024
Beyond the Binary: Science and Spirituality Unite | Transcendent Naturalism #14 with Henriques, Alderman, and Layman
Gregg Henriques is a professor at James Madison University, author of "A New Unified Theory of Psychology," and a leader in the Unified Psychotherapy Movement, with over 20 years of experience in psychology and psychotherapy, specializing in adult psychopathology. Pascal Layman is a philosopher based in Northern Ontario, known for his groundbreaking work on the metaphysics of adjacency, the coaxial stages model, and metaprogressive politics. Bruce Alderman is an accomplished musician, visual artist, and deep meditation practitioner. He is the producer of The Integral Stage podcast and the organizer of the Blue Sky Leadership Program at the California Institute for Integral Studies. Does the universe hold inherent mystery, or is our scientific understanding merely inadequate? In this episode of The Cognitive Science Show, John Vervaeke and Gregg Henriques are joined by Layman Pascal and Bruce Alderman to reflect on the Transcendent Naturalism series and explore its potential for fostering collective transcendence. The discussion covers a range of topics, including the importance of ethical and relational dimensions in our understanding of the world, the role of art and meaning-making in a meta-modern context, and the layered ontology of nature. Join us to explore this fascinating approach to understanding how transcendent naturalism can shed light on our world and guide us toward a deeper sense of purpose. Gain exclusive access to live Q&A sessions, early video releases, and more by supporting John's innovative work on — “IPS (Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality) wants to leave room for the interplay of transcendence and immanence, but without needing to posit an unthinkable outside to reality. It's in strong accord with transcendent naturalism in this regard." - Bruce Alderman [08:37] "John's proposed simple move to arrive at an extended naturalism, getting science to more explicitly accept what it already presupposes, is genius. There's much more that could be said about that, but my simple response is bravo." - Bruce Alderman [08:49] — 0:00 - Introduction: Series Finale and Overview of Transcendent Naturalism Series 4:00 - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality and its Flexible Nature 14:10 - Influential Theories and Thinkers: Integrating Cognitive Science, Philosophy, and Transcendence 24:20 - Flexible Metaphysics and the Layered Ontology of Transcendent Naturalism 32:50 - Theology, Art, and Literature: Navigating the AGI and Meaning Crisis 39:20 - Participatory Spiritual Practices and Metaphysical Rituals 45:20 - Strong Transcendence with Preeminent Imminence 53:40 - The Role of Art and Narrative in Transcendent Naturalism 57:00 - Cultivating a Transformative Curriculum: Reimagining Institutional Roles in Spiritual Growth 1:10:20 - Conclusion: Culminating Thoughts and Future Pathways — Help advance the pursuit of scientifically rigorous wisdom and make a meaningful impact by joining the Vervaeke Foundation. Learn more at Deepen your virtues and foster authentic connections in life by joining Awaken to Meaning. Start your journey today at — If you're interested in learning more about transcendent naturalism, be sure to check out the Cognitive Science Show. — Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Gregg Henriques: | | Follow Layman Pascal: | | Follow Bruce Alderman: | — Thank you for Listening!
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Reviving Faith with Metamodern Spirituality and the Future of Christianity | Brendan Graham Dempsey
06/21/2024
Reviving Faith with Metamodern Spirituality and the Future of Christianity | Brendan Graham Dempsey
Brendan Graham Dempsey is an author and speaker specializing in metamodern spirituality, exploring the intersections of traditional faith and contemporary thought. How can ancient faith traditions adapt to the complexities of the modern world? In this episode of Voices with Vervaeke, John Vervaeke and Brendan Graham Dempsey explore the potential for metamodern spirituality to breathe new life into the Christian faith. Dempsey shares his transformative journey from traditional beliefs to a metamodern perspective that integrates ancient doctrines with contemporary thought. Their discussion addresses challenging issues such as historical and postmodern critiques of the Bible, the complex relationship between faith and science, and the psychological underpinnings of religious practices. This conversation aims to rejuvenate our understanding of Christianity and enrich our engagement with reality, setting the stage for future dialogues on the essence of God and the sacred. Support John's groundbreaking work and gain exclusive access to live Q&A sessions, early video releases, and more by joining our ! --- "I'm interested in the ways that spirituality begins to dovetail with the sciences, where that antagonism many of us are familiar with is transcended and healed in a profound way." - Brendan Graham Dempsey [00:04:00] "We need the language of explaining because the language of explaining is the language of science. If we don't have a properly cultivated language of explaining, the gulf between spirituality and science will remain. That is one of the significant drivers of the meaning crisis." - John Vervaeke [00:15:33] "What's the point of the religious relationship to Jesus? Is it to accurately capture the past or wisely prepare you for the future? I think the latter is exactly what it's most properly for." John Vervaeke [00:39:28] --- 0:00 Introduction: Brendan's Christian Roots and Academic Journey 06:20 Modern and Postmodern Biblical Critiques 10:15 Metamodern Christianity and Its Challenges 13:40 Training vs. Explaining in Religious Contexts 20:45 Bridging Historical Jesus and Imaginal Christ 43:05 Faith, Maturation, and the Interplay of Training and Explanation 51:50 Imaginal Recovery and Theological Continuity 01:02:45 Navigating Order and Chaos: Spiritual Growth Dynamics 01:27:30 Conclusion: Exploring the Numinous - God, Sacredness, and Ultimate Reality --- Become a part of mission to promote the scientifically rigorous pursuit of wisdom and create a lasting impact on the world. Join to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. --- --- Ideas, Authors, and Works Mentioned in This Episode: Metamodernism Transcendent Naturalism Jesus of Nazareth Biblical Studies Postmodern Critiques Nietzsche Foucault Derrida Spinoza Plato Xenophon Aristophanes Solon Aristotle Henry IV, V, and IV (Shakespeare) Shakespeare’s early works Plato's Socrates H.G. Gadamer T.S. Eliot J.R.R. Tolkien C.S. Lewis G.W.F. Hegel J.L. Schellenberg J.Campbell C.Jung Jordan Peterson Jared Morningstar Dr. Johannes A. Niederhauser (Halkyon Academy) J.A.S. Kelso Paul (Apostle) Brian McLaren D.C. Schindler Paul Vander Klay The Language of Coaching by Nick Winkelman --- Follow John Vervaeke: | | | Follow Brendan Graham Dempsey: | | --- Thank you for listening!
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