#NoThirds with Fran Veyette: Postgrad Reality Check - Part 1
Release Date: 04/24/2025
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info_outlinePostgraduate ballet training is often sold as the final step before a professional contract—but how much of what dancers and parents hear is actually true?
In this first episode of a two-part series, Fran Veyette joins us to break down the current state of postgraduate programs. We talk about the rise of bridge-level training, how to evaluate the value of doing a second year in a program, and whether the “big name” schools really give dancers an edge. Fran also shares his take on the gender gap in hiring, the role of summer intensives in admissions, and why some dancers sail through these programs while others get stuck in a loop.
This is the real talk dancers and families need before making big decisions.
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