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Space, Grace & the Secret Sauce to Lifelong Friendship with Leigh Kilton Smith & Kristin Hahn

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Release Date: 10/21/2025

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Dre sits down with writer, teacher, and embodiment leader Natalie Kuhn, founder of Make the Sun and former Co-CEO of The Class. Natalie shares how her early experiences with conditional love shaped her sense of self, and how her current work in seminary and Al-Anon is revealing a different understanding of belonging and internal safety.       They explore the pressures of spiritual overload, the tendency to turn healing into constant self-improvement, and the impact this has on the nervous system. Natalie breaks down how breath and sound support emotional release, why the body...

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Space, Grace & the Secret Sauce to Lifelong Friendship with Leigh Kilton Smith & Kristin Hahn show art Space, Grace & the Secret Sauce to Lifelong Friendship with Leigh Kilton Smith & Kristin Hahn

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In this episode, Dre is joined by two beloved friends and returning guests: producer and screenwriter Kristin Hahn and acting coach Leigh Kilton Smith. Together, they circle around how they’ve navigated decades of friendship—through grief, distance, conflict, and reconciliation—and what it really takes to sustain intimacy over time. They speak to the discipline of giving one another space and grace, the courage of telling hard truths, and the sacred act of creating magic with and for one another.         Beyond friendship, this conversation dives into the realities of...

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In this episode, Dre is joined by two beloved friends and returning guests: producer and screenwriter Kristin Hahn and acting coach Leigh Kilton Smith. Together, they circle around how they’ve navigated decades of friendship—through grief, distance, conflict, and reconciliation—and what it really takes to sustain intimacy over time. They speak to the discipline of giving one another space and grace, the courage of telling hard truths, and the sacred act of creating magic with and for one another.  

 

 

 

Beyond friendship, this conversation dives into the realities of aging, existential malaise, and even the call to become death doulas. They share what it’s like to face the shifting way the world sees women as they grow, and how talking about death can actually enrich the way we live. Kristin, Leigh, and Dre remind us that friendship is an art form, and as sacred and precious as any marriage.  

 

 

 

 

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