Ep. 127 Jill Hutsko | The Lie of Moderation and the Freedom of Obedience
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
Release Date: 05/05/2025
The 10 Best Things About a Cocktail-Free Christmas
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
It’s Christmas season, babe! 🎁✨ And if this time of year has ever felt like a lot, the hustle, the planning, the pressure, the trying-to-do-all-the-things, we get it. And we’ve been there. But what if Christmas didn’t have to feel that way anymore? In this week’s episode, we’re sharing The 10 Best Things About an Alcohol-Free Christmas, the gifts of peace, presence, and actual JOY that come when we take alcohol off the table. From savoring real holiday magic with our kids… to waking up on Christmas morning feeling rested and alive… to actually tasting the cheese board (can...
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You Are Not Your Struggle: Healing Body, Brain & Belief | Leanne Ellington
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
Have you ever looked in the mirror and felt stuck with your own body—in a similar way you’ve felt stuck with alcohol?That exhausting push-pull. The promises. The shame. The “why do I keep doing this?” on repeat. If that sounds familiar, this conversation is for you. For the woman who’s tried willpower, plans, promises, and prayers—yet still feels stuck in the cycle of body image battles, emotional eating, and quiet self-criticism. Friend, you are not alone. And you are not broken. Leanne joins us to share her powerful story of moving from food addiction and shame to true...
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Gratitude & Thanksgiving | The Biblical (and Neuroscience-Backed) Secret to Peace
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
This week, we’re leaning into the season of Thanksgiving, and talking about how gratitude really does change everything. 🦃✨ We all know we “should” be grateful, but when life feels heavy, the kids are loud, or your to-do list is a mile long… does gratitude actually help? (Spoiler: yes! And science agrees with what Scripture said all along!) In this conversation, we unpack how gratitude is not just a feel-good exercise, it’s a spiritual and neurological reset that can lower stress, boost dopamine and serotonin, and literally rewire your brain for joy. You’ll hear how our...
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The Truth That Changes Everything | You’re Not the Hero of Your Story
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
This week’s episode is a little different. We’re pulling back the curtain on one of our BJDW Community Masterclasses, the kind of deep, beautiful, heart-level conversations we host each month with special guests to encourage our community gals on the journey to freedom. We’re joined by Sharon Hodde Miller, author of Free of Me and Gazing at God, to unpack the root of insecurity, and why we often feel insecure when we’re standing on something shaky. Sharon shares how our culture has taught us to treat insecurity by focusing more on ourselves… when the real freedom comes from shifting...
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Beyond Rehab and 12 Steps | From Traditional Recovery to True Transformation
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
Have you ever wondered why traditional recovery works for some people—but didn’t quite fit for you? This week, we’re pulling back the curtain with our friend and BJDW team member Heather whose journey to freedom started inside a rehab program that followed a 12-step model…and ended in a deeper, Jesus-led transformation. Heather opens up about what she learned, what didn’t resonate, and how she found freedom—not just sobriety—through faith, community, and truth. If you’ve ever felt out of place in traditional recovery, or wrestled with words like powerless and alcoholic, this...
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The One Simple Thing You Can Do to Protect Your Teen from Alcohol Harm with Professor Rob Turrisi
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
Today we’re joined by one of the world’s leading experts on teen drinking and prevention—Professor Rob Turrisi, a Penn State researcher whose 35+ years of work have shaped national programs through MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) and schools across the U.S. In this important and hope-filled conversation, Professor Turrisi unpacks why teens start drinking, what actually works when it comes to prevention, and how parents can foster healthy, connected relationships that reduce risk and build trust. If you’re a parent, mentor, teacher, or anyone who cares about the next generation,...
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Margie’s Story | Tracing God’s Fingerprints to Freedom
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
Today’s episode is one of those that reminds us why we do this! We’re joined by our beloved community member Margie, who shares her breathtaking story of redemption — a story marked by God’s fingerprints in every moment, from early struggles with alcohol to the steady unfolding of peace, purpose, and true freedom in Christ. What began decades ago as a quiet search for belonging became a story of divine pursuit — one where God never stopped showing up, even when shame, anxiety, and vodka tried to take the lead. Margie opens up about the hard years, the miracle moments, and the...
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Amber’s Story | From Moderation Rules to True Freedom
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
We’re celebrating something special today, Amber’s one-year alcohol-free anniversary! 🩷 Amber is not only a beloved member of our But Jesus Drank Wine community, she’s also part of our leadership team, guiding women toward freedom with compassion, wisdom, and grace. In this heartfelt and hope-filled conversation, Amber shares her powerful story, from binge drinking and endless moderation “rules” to finding peace, purpose, and freedom through Christ. She opens up about the fears she had around her marriage, motherhood, and social life… and how God met her in every...
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Known in Every Thought | Scripture Meditation on Psalm 139:1–4
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
What if God already knows your every thought—and still loves you? In this Scripture meditation on Psalm 139:1–4, we begin our Fully Known, Fully Loved series with a reflection on God’s deep, intimate knowledge of us. Using the Lectio Divina method, we’ll gently meditate on the reality that God knows every word before we speak it, every move before we make it—and none of that scares Him away. In a world obsessed with self-discovery, these verses remind us of something even more powerful: Before we try to figure ourselves out… God already knows. And His love is...
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So Much More | The Power of Biblical Meditation with Jodie Niznik
"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
We’re thrilled to welcome our new friend Jodie Niznik to the studio today! Jodie is the host of So Much More, a Scripture meditation podcast that helps women slow down, create space to listen to God, and move biblical truth from head knowledge to heart transformation. In this conversation, Jodie shares how Scripture meditation has become a lifeline for women who feel stuck in doing all the things, and why creating space to simply be with Jesus is often the missing piece for those breaking free from alcohol, people-pleasing, or performance. Whether you’re just curious about taking a break...
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In this honest and hope-filled conversation, Christy and Meade welcome Jill, a beloved member of the But Jesus Drank Wine leadership team, to share her powerful story of breaking free from alcohol and drawing closer to God.
After ten years of trying to moderate her drinking, Jill was inspired by Christy’s sobriety story in the summer of 2023 and made the bold decision to stop drinking entirely. What followed was a journey of spiritual renewal, mental clarity, and deeper intimacy with God.
Jill opens up about the subtle ways alcohol had taken hold of her life—emotionally, physically, and spiritually. She shares how it consumed her mental energy, fueled guilt and shame, and ultimately stood in the way of the peace and purpose she longed for. Through surrender, community, and daily obedience, Jill experienced true freedom—and now encourages others to do the same.
This conversation is especially meaningful for women navigating caregiving, motherhood, and the pressure to “keep it together.” Jill’s courage to speak up and step out is a reminder that the cost of honesty is far outweighed by the gift of freedom.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
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Why moderation isn’t always harmless—and what it might be costing you
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How alcohol can quietly become a spiritual and emotional burden
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What it means to truly surrender a habit to God
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The role of testimony and vulnerability in personal transformation
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Encouragement for women in the “sandwich generation” carrying invisible loads
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How community and faith walk hand-in-hand toward lasting sobriety
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