#383 The Politicization of Our Schools (John B. King Jr., Former U.S. Secretary of Education pt.2)
Release Date: 05/13/2025
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This week, we’re back with Part 3 of my conversation with Ken Williams — and we’re pushing even deeper into what real leadership looks like when the excuses are stripped away. In this installment, we go beyond the question of whether teachers matter and dig into the systems, habits, and mindsets that either amplify teacher expertise or quietly suffocate it. Because here’s the truth far too many leaders avoid: You can’t claim to believe in teachers while building a school that doesn’t trust them. We talk about how some schools unintentionally create environments where demographics...
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This week, I sit down with Ken Williams, educator, speaker, and author of Ruthless Equity and founder of Unfold the Soul, to wrestle with one of the toughest questions in education today: Do teachers still matter? In too many schools, leadership decisions, policies, and even cultural norms seem to have already decided what kids can and cannot do — leaving teachers feeling like their impact is secondary. But if we truly believe teachers matter (and we say we do), why don’t our practices reflect that belief? Ken brings his signature honesty and insight as we unpack how schools can reclaim...
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Hello everyone! This week I’m joined by Carrie Jackson, the incredible principal of Allen High School in Texas — and someone I’ve had the privilege of working alongside in my career. Carrie embodies what it means to lead with humility, compassion, and care. In our conversation, we dig deep into what real leadership looks like — not the kind that leans on authority or power, but the kind that sees people first. We talk about the difference between power and influence, and how the best leaders earn trust and respect not through force, but through consistency, empathy, and a genuine...
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Hello everyone! We have done on the many aspects of reading and writing. We have covered pedagogy, research, cutting edge ideas and a return to form. One of the biggest topics that have graced this show is the topic of The Science of Reading. Heard of it? To dive into the latest research, findings, and thinking around the subject, I have brought on one of the experts in the field, Erica Woolway. Erica Woolway is the President and Chief Academic Officer of Teach Like a Champion. Erica is a former kindergarten teacher and elementary school leader. She is coauthor of Practice Perfect...
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Welcome everyone to the Craft & Draft podcast! We are so excited to bring you what we love, talking with you about workshop, literacy, writing, reading, and real world teaching. In this episode, Jacob and Pam address the issues of student cheating and AI. Jacob poses the question of whether cheating is a greater problem today than in the past. Pam shares how she has seen cheating throughout her career and determined that it has always been a large problem. Jacob explains how technology changes seem to instill fear regarding cheating, such as Google, so, AI is...
info_outlineIn part 2 of this powerful episode, host Jacob Chastain sits down with Dr. John B. King Jr., the 10th U.S. Secretary of Education under President Obama, to discuss his new book Teacher by Teacher.
They explore Dr. King’s journey from classroom teacher to national education leader, offering a rare insider’s perspective on the state of American education.
Together, they unpack the challenges educators face today, including the growing politicization of the profession and its impact on schools and communities. A must-listen for anyone passionate about teaching, policy, and the future of education.
John B. King Jr. served in President Barack Obama’s cabinet as the tenth U.S. Secretary of Education. Over the course of his extensive and influential career in public education, he has been a high school social studies teacher, a middle school principal, the first African American and Puerto Rican to serve as New York State Education Commissioner, a college professor, and the president and CEO of the Education Trust, a national education civil rights organization.
King is currently the chancellor of the State University of New York (SUNY), the nation’s largest comprehensive system of public higher education. Both of King’s parents were career New York City public school educators.
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