Living With Incurable Cancer: Caroline Catlin On Time, Grief, & Mortality
Release Date: 03/19/2025
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[This episode originally aired December, 2023] This time of year can be grueling for anyone, but particularly for those who are grieving. So, each year we put out an episode to help you feel less alone and hopefully more equipped to traverse the next few weeks. Today's guest, Melissa Peede Thompson, M.S., is a Grief Services Coordinator at Dougy Center. While she has lots of professional knowledge in this realm, we asked her to talk about her personal experience of grieving during the holidays. Melissa was six when her sister died of gun violence. She was 13 when her father died in a...
info_outlineWhat does it mean to live with an incurable illness while navigating grief, time, and the complexity of human connection? In this episode of Grief Out Loud, we sit down with Caroline Catlin—writer, artist, and grief care worker—to explore her experience of living with an incurable brain cancer diagnosis.
Caroline shares how her relationship with cancer has evolved over the past six years, from the early days of fighting for a diagnosis to the ongoing reality of regular scans and the uncertainty of what’s next. She speaks candidly about anticipatory grief, the way mortality shapes her daily life, and how her work in end-of-life photography and peer grief support informs her perspective on loss.
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The impact of a life-altering diagnosis on friendships and relationships
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How people can better support those living with illness
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The intersection of living with illness and supporting grieving children
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The unique grief of knowing time is limited—and learning to live within it
Caroline also shares about her grief writing workshops, her creative process, and how gardening has become a grounding practice for her.
Connect with Caroline:
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Website: carolinecatlin.com
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Instagram: @mybodyofwater
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Grief writing workshops: Sliding scale, open to all
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