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2. Chris James, Senior Accountant at Alan Patient & Co

Developing the Trust

Release Date: 05/13/2019

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Developing the Trust

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20. Phil Reynolds; Formerly of Kreston Reeves and now PLR Advisory show art 20. Phil Reynolds; Formerly of Kreston Reeves and now PLR Advisory

Developing the Trust

For this episode Tim Warneford is in Sittingbourne in Kent to speak to Phil Reynolds. Phil has spent over 20 years specialising in academy schools accountancy firstly at pecialist accountants Kreston Reeves and now with his own consultancy PLR Advisory We explore how specialist accountancy can assist schools determine a trust strategy and how upskilling in house SLTT through training and development can achieve operational wins.

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19. James Robson, Chairman of Powerful Allies  show art 19. James Robson, Chairman of Powerful Allies

Developing the Trust

For this episode Tim Warneford travels to Wiltshire to speak to Powerful Allies Chairman, James Robson, about the risks posed to academy schools for energy procurement in an un-regulated market place. 

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18. CIF Update and How to Create a Successful Bid show art 18. CIF Update and How to Create a Successful Bid

Developing the Trust

The hot topic of conversation across the sector is the recent update from the ESFA, revealing that the much awaited publication of the 2021-22 round of Condition Improvement Fund (CIF) awards, have been postponed until ‘mid-June’.

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17. Harvey Sinclair, CEO E Energy PLC show art 17. Harvey Sinclair, CEO E Energy PLC

Developing the Trust

On this episode Tim talks to Harvey Sinclair, a technology entrepreneur and CEO of E Energy PLC about the fast-moving world of lighting and also electrified heating discussing how schools can save energy and indeed costs by changing their electrics.

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Developing the Trust

Tim Warneford is in Alton, Hampshire, with Steve Bolt, director of BCR Associates, a cost management consultancy that support clients – including academies - to increase efficiency, manage risk, ensure compliance and rationalise procurement costs. Tim and Steve are also working on a collaboration with Lloyds Bank education team to support academy trusts seeking to assist academy trust to optimise resources and maximise potential.

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15. Kevin Yardley, Director of Income Generation of The Generations Multi Academy Trust show art 15. Kevin Yardley, Director of Income Generation of The Generations Multi Academy Trust

Developing the Trust

Tim Warneford is once again out and about now lockdown is easing –  travelling and recording with all social distancing in mind of course - to speak to Kevin Yardley at The Generations Multi Academy Trust. Kevin is director of income generation and his role is to ensure the estates facilities yield substantial revenue streams through optimising letting opportunities and via external partnerships.

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14. Jeremy Pilgrim, School Property Matters show art 14. Jeremy Pilgrim, School Property Matters

Developing the Trust

For this episode Tim Warneford is in Bedfordshire to speak to Jeremy Pilgrim from School Property Matters who are independent experts in pupil capacity and have worked with over 2500 schools so far.

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13. Graham Fitzgerald, General Practice and Audit Director at Baldwin Accountants, Baldwin Accountants show art 13. Graham Fitzgerald, General Practice and Audit Director at Baldwin Accountants, Baldwin Accountants

Developing the Trust

This week Tim Warneford is in Stockton-on-Tees to speak to Graham Fitzgerald, general practice and audit director at Baldwin Accountants. As well as dealing with commercial organisations, Graham specialises in the education sector, providing audit and advisory services and working with over forty academy schools including an increasing number of multi academy trusts.

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12. Lara Harvard and Zoe Forbes from Ecosphere and Gareth Williams from Eden Sustainable show art 12. Lara Harvard and Zoe Forbes from Ecosphere and Gareth Williams from Eden Sustainable

Developing the Trust

Tim Warneford is in London’s West End with Lara Harvard and Zoe Forbes from Ecosphere and Gareth Williams from Eden Sustainable talking about how schools and academy trusts can both save money and also be much greener by installing better energy systems and also their exclusive offer available to both academy trusts and state schools.

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This week Tim travels to Woodford to the offices of Chris James, a Senior Accountant at Alan Patient & Co a London firm providing accountancy services to schools across the UK.

On this episode Chris James talks:  

The first academy they worked with

How the above panned out

Schools’ experience prior to academising

'Good housekeeping’ prior to academisation

The higher level of accountancy scrutiny after academisation

Investing in higher accountancy systems to address the above

The benefit of increase financial clarity in helping make decisions

Ensuring the children get the best education possible

The skill-level of site managers required to operate investments

Whether accountants need to be involved earlier in the process

The key times to prepare schools for the conversion process

The important of the due diligence stage

Advising schools’ liabilities at as early a stage as possible

Finding ways in which everyone can work collaboratively so that schools have a better service at the front end

What successes they have noted with schools going from public sector to private

How conversions work best when schools go to them at an earlier stage

The potential confusion of schools at their first audit

How investing in decent systems and skills leads to better audits

How audits can be helpful to identify ways forward

How larger MATs and secondary levels with directors of finance grasp the changes quicker

Supporting smaller primaries that don’t have the resources for directors of finance

Lloyds Bank dominating the sector by providing single points of contact

How they started in the commercial sector

The brand new element of compliance and reporting academisation brings schools

Teachers being asked to be accounting officers

Important to show understanding in terms of what they’re going through

The importance of supporting and reassuring schools

How many schools have converted at risk

Supporting schools in cutting costs and setting up new revenue streams

Hammering it home that ‘they are a business now’

How the revenue from the business is reinvested into education

Finding themselves advising more on the above options

Obtaining value for money being paramount

Results from the Improvement Fund

Value for money raising from 15 to 25%

The impact the above has on schools

50% of academised schools in year deficit

The potentially bleak future for schools that cannot support themselves

Small trusts or stand alone schools being encouraged to join larger ones

Potential future funding streams to help schools stay in small MATs – trying to maximise income, allowing more uses of their facilities, trying to minimise their costs

The benefits of working with professionals early on in academisation process

How schools should approach professional services before they convert to put them in a far stronger position

How all parties involved would better prepare schools with if they provided a more unified wraparound service

The aim to help as many schools as possible to make sure that they have the financial reporting and information that they are compliant and can also make the best decisions so they know they can provide the best education for the children

Passing on skills to the trustees so that they can be better equipped to cope with academisation