EP130: Punished for Dreaming: How School Reform Harms Black Children and How We Can Heal with Dr. Bettina L. Love
Release Date: 02/22/2024
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info_outlineMeet Dr. Bettina L. Love, the William F. Russell Professor at Teachers College, Columbia University, who delves into the complex dynamics of education reform and highlights its detrimental effects on Black children and communities.
In this episode, Diverse host Dr. Jamal Watson engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Love, author of The New York Times best seller, Punished for Dreaming: How School Reform Harms Black Children and How We Can Heal.
Tune in as Watson and Love discuss the influence of powerful narratives and critical analysis on Black children, challenging the traditional notions of philanthropy, reimagining the concept of harm, and advocating for meaningful repair in education.
KEY POINTS:
- Love’s upbringing and its influence on her understanding of education reform
- The intersection of race, education, and policy
- The impact of education reforms on black children and communities
- On abolition, reparations, and white philanthropy
- The importance of centering Black voices in education reform efforts
- The pivotal role of shifting societal paradigms for injustices and promoting healing
QUOTABLES:
"Abolition is so much about love and compassion but holding people accountable for harm. I believe, as an abolitionist, we can't have new structures and new understanding if we don't know what has been done to us and who did it to us." – Dr. Bettina Love
"People think change starts in the streets, and it does. But we need change at your house. It's how you raise your children. It's how you talk to your children. It's how you talk to your partner. It's how you talk to the people in your community." – Dr. Bettina Love
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