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68: Management vs. Leadership

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Release Date: 10/24/2025

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Sacrifice is necessary when trying to initiate change. It is essential to allow people to process loss associated with change. The potential success of the change initiative starts with this step. We delve into different layers associated with sacrifice. It is not as straightforward as it might seem.  Email questions:  Title the email "podcast question" We will feature questions in future episodes   Music: 

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68: Management vs. Leadership show art 68: Management vs. Leadership

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You can't manage your way into change! Management is not the same as leadership when attempting to bring about change in a complex organization. This episode seeks to navigate the complexities, differences, and potential applications. Email questions:  Title the email "podcast question" We will feature questions in future episodes Scenario questions would be amazing!   Music: 

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Change is a difficult and complex process. It is essential to establish a solid foundation to ensure the success of the change process. To do that, you should start with the why. Listen to this episode as we consider the different facets and applications Email questions: Title the email "podcast question" We will feature questions in future episodes Scenario questions would be amazing!   Music:  Book References: Leading Change by John Kotter Start With The Why by Simon Sinek Connect with Matthew Downing:

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Becca Merrill is a researcher and evaluator at Education Northwest. Her content expertise is in the teacher labor market, with methodological expertise in both quantitative and qualitative designs. Her recent work focuses on teacher working conditions as a lever for teacher retention, informed by work experience as a middle school teacher.   Music:  Links:  Article title: Configuring a Construct Definition of Teacher Working Conditions in the United States Shout outs:  Matthew Kraft Lora Cohen-Vogel Connect with Matthew Downing:

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65: Stephen Guerriero show art 65: Stephen Guerriero

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Stephen was a middle school Social Studies teacher for 20 years before becoming Chief Learning Officer of a blended learning platform startup. His interests are ancient history, archaeology, and travel and he is an outspoken advocate for teachers, mental health, and LGBTQ equity in the classroom and beyond.   Music:  Links:  Shout outs:  Arvind Murali CEO at Litmus Learn Connect with Matthew Downing:  

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Dr. Dana Goodier has taught World Languages and English and has worked at the middle and elementary school level as an administrator. She often speaks professionally, writes blogs for the Teach Better Team, and is the author of Out of the Trenches: Stories of Resilient Educators.   Music:  Links:  @danagoodier (Twitter) @outoftrenchespc (Twitter & IG) Shout outs:  @Rickjetter  Pushing Boundaries Consulting #pushboundEDU Connect with Matthew Downing:

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63: Daphne Gomez show art 63: Daphne Gomez

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After navigating her own career transition from teaching in 2017, Daphne Gomez founded Teacher Career Coach to support other teachers thinking of making a change. She launched the first complete coaching program of its kind, the Teacher Career Coach Course in 2019 and also hosts the popular Teacher Career Coach Podcast each week. Daphne has created a judgment-free community dedicated to helping educators find happiness in their careers - inside or outside the classroom.     Music:  Links:      ...

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Melissa Arnold Lyon is an assistant professor of public policy at the Rockefeller College of Public Affairs and Policy at the University at Albany, SUNY. Melissa studies the political economy of education policy, focusing on inequality, governance, and teacher politics and policy. She's interested in how political structures shape and get shaped by the incentives and behaviors of market actors, and conversely how economic inequalities shape the politics of education and education governance. Connect on Twitter @MimiArnoldLyon   Music:  Links:    ...

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Lindsay Donikian is the Executive Vice President of Teacher Growth at Elevate K-12. Lindsay focuses much of her time on teacher shortage, how to retain teachers, and live teaching as a potential solution.   Music:  Links:    Shout outs:  Elevate Teachers Connect with Matthew Downing:

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Grace is a doctoral student at the University of Washington Evans School for Public Policy and Governance where she studies urban policy and the impact of segregation on social equity. She has a bachelor's degree in economics and English from Davidson College and worked at Brown University as a pre-doctoral researcher with Prof. Matt Kraft before attending UW.   Music:  Links:    Shout outs:  Matthew Kraft Connect with Matthew Downing:

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You can't manage your way into change!

Management is not the same as leadership when attempting to bring about change in a complex organization. This episode seeks to navigate the complexities, differences, and potential applications.

Email questions: mad3764@g.harvard.edu

  • Title the email "podcast question"
  • We will feature questions in future episodes
  • Scenario questions would be amazing!

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