DGS 337: Property Management: A Teen Entrepreneur Head Start

Jason sat down with young entrepreneur Malcolm Keith to explore how teens can develop leadership, confidence, and entrepreneurial thinking much earlier in life, long before most people ever consider that path. In this episode of the #DoorGrowShow, property management growth expert Jason Hull and teen entrepreneur Malcolm Keith discuss how environment shapes mindset, why exposure matters more than pressure, and how parents can give their teenagers a powerful head start by surrounding them with the right opportunities and conversations.

You’ll Learn

(00:00) Why Every Entrepreneur Wishes They Could Start Earlier 

(00:45) Malcolm Keith’s Early Exposure to Entrepreneurship 

(02:00) How Environment Shapes an Entrepreneurial Mindset 

(03:50) Discovering the Power of Being in the Right Rooms 

(05:00) The Isolation of Young Entrepreneurs (and How He Solved It) 

(06:10) Building Teen Mastermind: From Idea to Community 

(07:30) Taking a Shot: Trying to Get on Funnel Hacking Live Stage 

(09:00) Turning Community Into Real-World Experiences (Live Events) 

(12:30) Designing Events for Growth: Community, Action, and Fun 

(18:30) Advice for Parents: How to Raise Entrepreneurial Thinkers

Quotables

“It wasn't my parents who were directly telling me like, you need to be a business owner. This is how being an entrepreneur works. It was the people on stage that were selling me on the idea of entrepreneurship.” 

“If you don't ask, the answer is always no.” 

“I never knew it become this big and we'd be doing live events. I just created it because I wanted a friend group.” 

Resources

DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind

DoorGrow Academy

DoorGrow on YouTube

DoorGrowClub

DoorGrowLive

Transcript

Jason Hull (00:01)

All right, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome everybody. I'm Jason Hull, the owner and founder of DoorGrow, the world's leading and most comprehensive coaching and consulting firm for long-term residential property management entrepreneurs. For over a decade and a half, we've brought innovative strategies and optimization to the property management industry. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses.

 

We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Now let's get into the show. All right. So today this show is going to be all about giving your teenager the headstart that you wish you had as an entrepreneur. Don't you wish you could just go back and like help yourself out. So I'm hanging out here today with Malcolm. Malcolm, welcome. Welcome, Keith.

 

Malcolm Keith (00:56)

Hey, thank you.

 

Jason Hull (00:59)

welcome to the show. So I'll give you a little bit of background on Malcolm. At just 17, Malcolm launched Teen Mastermind, a growing community of more than 60 teens dedicated to leadership, entrepreneurship, and building a meaningful legacy. Now 19, Malcolm has taken that vision even further by bringing the movement into the real world with Teen Mastermind Live, a three-day immersive leadership experience designed for both teens and their parents.

 

In a time when most conversations about young people revolve around screen addiction and disconnection and lack of direction, Malcolm represents a powerful counter narrative. As a young leader himself, he's helping teens step into confidence, develop entrepreneurial thinking and strengthen family relationships around shared purpose and growth. So Malcolm, welcome to the DoorGrow show.

 

Malcolm Keith (01:53)

Awesome. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here.

 

Jason Hull (01:56)

Cool, cool. So now tell people a little bit, how did you get started doing this and how did you kind of start your little entrepreneurial journey yourself?

 

Malcolm Keith (02:09)

Yeah, so my parents got married and opened their dojo the same year. And so I've been in the entrepreneurial world my entire life, about as long as I've been on the mats doing jujitsu. And so those two go very hand in hand in my journey. ⁓ And so I think when I was when I was nine years old is when my parents, they've been going to a mastermind for ⁓ martial arts school owners. And so they've been like, you

 

Jason Hull (02:17)

Thank

 

Malcolm Keith (02:38)

One parent would go while the other parent would stay home and take care of me and my little sister. But one day they were like, why are we continuing to do this? We, we homeschool and we have the ability to just take the whole family together and it kind of sucks when the family is split apart. So why don't we just, so they made a commitment to always take the whole family on every trip, on every business trip. And so we got to sit in the meeting rooms.

 

and learn from these entrepreneurs. At first we were like little kids just playing with our toys quietly in the corner, reading a book quietly. But ⁓ as a little kid, you're a little information sponge. And so eventually we actually started listening and taking notes. And then I think it was probably when we went to some of Russell's events, like Funnel Hacking Live and Unlock the Secrets was when I was like, this entrepreneur stuff is super cool. And it wasn't my parents who were

 

directly telling me like, you need to be a business owner. This is how being an entrepreneur works. It was the people on stage that, so my parents put me in these rooms where there were people on stage and they were the ones that were selling me on the idea of entrepreneurship. And so that's how, that's kind of how I got into this whole world.

 

Jason Hull (03:56)

You had entrepreneurial parents and they put you in some amazing opportunities and rooms to be exposed to think differently. And man, that's like the best homeschool education ever, right? It's a real education that actually leads you making money instead of just being a really good employee somewhere maybe. cool. And your parents are doing, have the martial arts school and doing the martial arts thing. And do you do martial arts? ⁓

 

Malcolm Keith (04:08)

yeah.

 

Yeah, I've been doing

 

it since I I learned how to walk and talk on the mats. So I've been, yeah, whole life.

 

Jason Hull (04:26)

Yeah, okay. So

 

right. I mean, don't let the glasses fool you. This guy could probably kick your butt. So, all right. So very cool. So Malcolm, and you've been doing this mastermind, you've got this event coming up. So tell people about like, why did you decide to start this and get this thing going?

 

Malcolm Keith (04:47)

Yeah, so I've been going to these, like, there's been, we've been going to Russell's events for a while and I would sometimes meet a couple of the teens there. ⁓ There'd be occasionally a few teens, but we would never stay connected. And ⁓ as I was homeschooled, we were part of kind of a co-op. And so I still had like classmates that I would meet with every week and it was great.

 

But every time I'd come back home from these events, I'd come back to class and talk with my classmates there. And they just didn't understand it, this whole world of entrepreneurship and being a business owner and having a big vision and actually knowing that you can achieve it. so they didn't get exposed to that world ⁓ the same way that I did. And so ⁓ that felt a bit isolating. ⁓

 

Jason Hull (05:32)

Yeah.

 

Yeah, yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (05:44)

It was at like, I think it was Unlock

 

the Secrets that I saw that, there are actually other teens that ⁓ are not only interested, but doing business already. But then I kept going to those events and we would never stay connected. ⁓ And so eventually it was ⁓ Unlock the Secrets in Paradise in 2024. And I realized, and I made the decision like, okay, this time is going to be different.

 

Jason Hull (06:01)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (06:13)

I'm going to make a Discord server and invite all the teams that I meet there. And we're just going to make a commitment to stay connected. Then we had, so I invited everybody there that I had met. We did our own little like in-person mastermind ⁓ during like one of the off sessions during the event, which is super fun. And then ⁓ one of us had the idea to start doing a call every week. So that's how that started happening. We could stay connected, keep each other updated on.

 

what we're all doing with our businesses. And that's how that started. Eventually the idea came along to, ⁓ we had this idea to try to get on the FHL 10 stage. And it's crazy idea, like, cause only the best of the best get on that stage. But.

 

Jason Hull (06:44)

Yeah.

 

So

 

let's pause for a second. So I wanna explain to people listening. So he's mentioning Russell. We're talking about Russell Brunson. He's like the sort of the founder of ClickFunnels and brilliant entrepreneur, probably one of the greatest marketing minds ⁓ period of this generation. And ⁓ that's how we met you and your parents is we're in Russell Brunson's inner circle. ⁓

 

which is not an inexpensive thing to be part of. So getting access to that as a teenager is pretty amazing. So really awesome. And you were wanting to get on stage at Funnel Hacking Live, which was like this massive event. I think they have like sometimes 5,000, 6,000 people at these conferences, these events. And you're like, how can we maybe get on stage at this event as teenagers? So I love it. All right, so continue.

 

Malcolm Keith (07:53)

Yeah, biggest marketing business event

 

like ever. So rock concert for entrepreneurs. ⁓ So we had this idea, what if we try to get on stage? It's probably not going to happen, but you might as well try. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. So, yeah, we put together a video made sure to include as many little like nods to all the stuff that Russell says to show that you actually listen to him. ⁓ And he really appreciated it. He said that

 

Jason Hull (07:59)

Yeah.

 

Right, yeah.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (08:24)

The lineup for the main stage was already chosen like a while before we had sent the video. But they were doing this new thing called round tables while actually bringing it back to this last event. So it was like 60 round tables each hosted by a high level entrepreneur. And they're like, maybe we can try to give you one of these round tables, which ended up being way better because we can actually talk directly to the other teens who came to that event, which there are a ton, which is

 

Jason Hull (08:30)

I'm sure.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (08:53)

So

 

cool to see. So we did that. And the team mastermind grew a lot after that event. was, I think, we were able to get our own separate room during that event. They were able to give one to us. And we had just our own in-person mastermind during FHL with 20 or more teens all in the room talking about our goals for the next 10 years.

 

Jason Hull (09:11)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (09:23)

and figuring out like what are the things that we're going to do today and this next week after we come back home that's actually going to bring us closer to those goals. So that was that was super fun.

 

Jason Hull (09:24)

That's awesome.

 

Yeah.

 

Yeah, that's really cool. So ⁓ you're 19th over, right? What happens to this teen mastermind when you're not a teenager? Like that's within the next year.

 

Malcolm Keith (09:40)

I am, yes.

 

Yeah, that's been something that I've been thinking about almost since the inception of it. Although at the beginning of it, I never knew it become this big and we'd be doing live events. Like I just created it because I wanted a friend group. ⁓ But they're like, this is super valuable. You got to monetize it. And so that took me a while to do that, ⁓ to kind of get over that block of like, I don't want to charge people who are my friends for something that I created.

 

Jason Hull (09:54)

Sure, yeah.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (10:17)

as a community, ⁓ but they were telling me like, it is super valuable and people value it more if you actually do charge money for it. Attention, yep, exactly. So I finally did that and that immediately started to grow the team mastermind. And then they were asking for live events. And so we're like, okay, yeah, we should do a live event just for our group. ⁓

 

Jason Hull (10:25)

Yeah, like Russell says, when people pay, they pay attention.

 

Malcolm Keith (10:44)

because there's

 

Jason Hull (10:44)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (10:45)

people, not just, a lot of them at the start were from Russell's Circles, going to Funnel Hacking Live together, but then there were teens from other places as well. And so we needed one kind of ⁓ our own place to all get together. So that's how the live event came about. ⁓ And I started with something else. I totally forgot. went off.

 

Jason Hull (11:05)

Well, yeah,

 

it's ideas like what comes next? are you going to keep doing this? I mean, I imagine you could keep doing it, but you you're about to turn 20, so you're not a teen. But that's the main thing, can't run the team mastermind, but at some point you might be like, my friend group's getting a little young here, so.

 

Malcolm Keith (11:08)

Yeah.

 

Yeah, so I got another year left.

 

Yeah, I mean, the thing is, the friends that are in there right now, ⁓ they're all growing up to. And so I think once all of those people quote unquote age out as well, I'll always have like my own inner circle of people that are similar to my age. We won't always all be teens, but we'll all be around the same distance apart. And so I think there'll be a mastermind afterwards, but

 

Jason Hull (11:39)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (11:53)

I'll always be part of the Teen Mastermind in some way, maybe not in the same role that I am right now. ⁓ I'm the person that's just a couple of steps ahead. ⁓

 

Jason Hull (12:06)

Yeah. Well,

 

maybe you pick a teenager to kind of head it up or maybe they vote or something, but then you've got, you, give them the IP, you set up the frameworks, you help them know this, how to run the events. can ask you for guidance and you're always going to be a step ahead. know, so.

 

Malcolm Keith (12:23)

Yeah, so that's, that was a really cool part of the mastermind was that it was created by a team and led by a team for teens. And so I always wanted to keep it that way. ⁓ and a couple of the teens in the group have kind of stepped up and become their own leaders in the group. and so I've been, ⁓ recruiting them a little bit here and there, and it's been really awesome so far. And so that's, ⁓

 

Jason Hull (12:34)

Yeah.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (12:52)

That's working out a lot.

 

Jason Hull (12:54)

Right. Yeah. Now you're like Willy Wonka and you're just trying to find Charlie at the, who do I give the golden ticket to and teach them the ways and let them run this place. All right. So really cool. So what are some of the things that happen at the, at the event that you're gearing up?

 

Malcolm Keith (13:01)

Yep.

 

Yeah, so

 

the idea first came, let's see, that's actually, okay, I'll save that. There's the grand finale part, which is my favorite and kind of the first idea that came about. ⁓ But so at the event, ⁓ I'm going to take pieces of previous events that I had been to the things that I really liked and implement them, but also look at the things that I, you know,

 

didn't like as much or things that I think could be improved and kind of take that into it. And so the whole event is built around community implementation and fun. At a lot of events, you know, if it's the event of like thousands of people, you can't really do this. But if it's an event of maybe a hundred or less, then you could very easily as the host, make sure that everybody knows each other. And so we start the event with

 

Jason Hull (13:52)

Okay.

 

Yeah.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (14:10)

having all the families introduce each other or introduce themselves so that everyone kind of knows like who it is that they're actually sitting next to because it's like to be at an event and have no clue who the person who the how cool the person in the chair to the right of you is. So that's how we start it. And then we love the walk and talks. Russell does that with Inner Circle. ⁓ Walk and talks are amazing. So we do that between every speaker and then. ⁓

 

Jason Hull (14:26)

Right, yeah.

 

Okay.

 

Malcolm Keith (14:39)

All of the, everybody sat at a round table and that's very specific because, ⁓ means that everybody is kind of grouped together and they get to talk, you know, across from each other instead of like talking all the way over to the table there, they're ⁓ sitting around and that automatically like subconsciously creates that sense of community. ⁓ so everything is built around that creating opportunities.

 

for people to have conversations. And then implementation, we want to make sure that the teens aren't just sitting there in a room having speakers just talk at them for hours. ⁓ We make sure that all those speakers have something like some kind of workshop and the teens are doing something active. And you learn more that way and you actually get stuff done during the event. And you can take that momentum with you back home.

 

Jason Hull (15:32)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (15:36)

and continue on from there. So many events give you a ton of ideas, but you're like, have no clue what to do when you get back home.

 

Jason Hull (15:45)

Yeah, I got it. Some people call that experiential learning instead of just, you know, sitting there and listening the whole time and then eventually zoning out, making sure that I like the walk and talks. I like that there's this experiential learning where you're taking action, each of the speakers, it sounds like a challenge to do like get people to do something or implement something. So.

 

Malcolm Keith (16:07)

Yeah, so we're super intentional about that. And then fun, of course. I think that's the most important because if I really do any of this, if it isn't fun along the way, entrepreneurship should be fun.

 

Jason Hull (16:21)

Yeah, business owners, don't think of that a lot. Entrepreneurs are like, wait, like, let's make money. But yeah, but fun is nice, right? So how do you make it fun? Maybe you can teach the grownup here how to how to be more fun. So.

 

Malcolm Keith (16:31)

So again, all the speakers are.

 

Yeah, the, mean, every speaker and all the workshops are meant to be fun. ⁓ and then we also have, excursion, like a special trip that we do for each day. So the first one is usually something kind of unique to the area for the one we did here in Oregon. ⁓ we went to wildlife safari, which I sometimes call it a zoo, but it's way more than that. It's, it is like an actual safari. we did like a bus tour and got to see a bunch of, ⁓ cool animals.

 

Jason Hull (17:01)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (17:05)

⁓ in Arizona, we went to, ⁓ a like super car show, which is super fun. And then for this next event in Illinois, we'll be going like a ⁓ hiking trip and seeing some of the cool scenery there. So that's what we do for the first day, something kind of unique to the area that we go to. ⁓ on day two, we do jujitsu and so bringing my family's business routes there. ⁓ and there's.

 

Jason Hull (17:13)

Nice.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (17:35)

As my dad always says, jujitsu is a metaphor for pretty much everything. ⁓ It's constantly in the cars, what we talk about is how does jujitsu relate.

 

Jason Hull (17:40)

Right.

 

Is this

 

Brazilian jujitsu or jujitsu or are you like throwing people like what are doing during the

 

Malcolm Keith (17:52)

No, we usually teach like some basic self-defense stuff. So, wrist grab escapes, and then we do kind of more of what you would see if you actually watched a Jujutsu match, which is kind of like the grappling on the ground, ⁓ like a trap and roll. If someone's sitting on top of you, how to like get them over and escape. ⁓ So, some of the basic stuff like that.

 

Jason Hull (18:08)

Mm-hmm.

 

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (18:19)

No throws and stuff. You need to learn how to fall first before you can throw. so yeah. Yeah.

 

Jason Hull (18:23)

Sure, yeah, Breakfall, yeah, got

 

it. So like mount, guard. Okay, got it, okay. And these are with parents and kids?

 

Malcolm Keith (18:30)

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that all that kind of stuff

 

Yes, so the whole event is supposed to be not just for teens, but for the whole family, because that's how our family does it. We always go together and we want to continue to be that example and start to like influence that mindset in other families to be a family together. so ⁓ and the jujitsu really helps with that. A lot of the like most successful students in ⁓ our dojo are families that all do it together. ⁓

 

Jason Hull (19:07)

I see. Okay, got

 

it. So when you're doing the second day, and is it just two days?

 

Malcolm Keith (19:14)

And then we have a final third day and we end the event with the Teenpreneur Ball. And that's an opportunity for all the teens, the whole family to ⁓ dress nice, dress fancy, which is very rare nowadays, especially for kids and teens. ⁓ And so I wanted to provide that opportunity to dress nice and fancy. We have a dinner and so that gives us an opportunity to learn about.

 

Jason Hull (19:16)

Third day.

 

Malcolm Keith (19:43)

like table etiquette, and then we do English dancing. So have you ever seen like pride and prejudice that movie? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So big. Yeah. Big rows of, ⁓ of dance of, yeah, dancing. They all dance together.

 

Jason Hull (19:51)

I think I know what you're talking about, where they're like all kind of doing their thing in circle and like turning.

 

like ancient

 

English line dancing or something. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Cool. So a little teenpreneur ball.

 

Malcolm Keith (20:06)

Yeah, I think it's called English country dancing, but yeah, I just call it English dancing. yeah. So and that's

 

yeah, so and that's our grand finale and the teens and the parents especially actually really love it.

 

Jason Hull (20:21)

Yeah, okay. Yeah, you have an excuse to dress nice and dance with each other. all right. Yeah, I love it. That sounds, it sounds like fun. So, sounds really cool. So when is your, when's your next one?

 

Malcolm Keith (20:28)

Yeah.

 

Our next one is April 30th to May 2nd in Marion, Illinois.

 

Jason Hull (20:39)

April 30th

 

to May 2nd.

 

Sorry, what were you saying?

 

Malcolm Keith (20:45)

It'll be in Marion, Illinois.

 

Jason Hull (20:50)

Cool. How do you pick the locations?

 

Malcolm Keith (20:53)

well, the first location that's where we live, we had a couple of members in Arizona and they were like really adamant about like, Scottsdale is amazing. So we went there and then a couple of our founding members who've been just so supportive since the beginning are in Illinois. So they're, they've been a huge help.

 

Jason Hull (20:56)

Yep.

 

⁓

 

got it. So you've got some boots on the ground in each area assisting you.

 

Malcolm Keith (21:16)

yeah, yeah, it's, I'm

 

so grateful for, yeah, the patents. They are awesome.

 

Jason Hull (21:21)

Yeah, very cool. Well, hey, Malcolm, really awesome. As adults, we love seeing this, ⁓ seeing the youth doing cool stuff like this. It's inspiring. And there's probably a lot of entrepreneurs listening to this. They're man, I wish my kid would just stop playing video games and be more like me and be more entrepreneurial. But sometimes kids are not entrepreneurial like their parents are. So.

 

they might feel like forcing them into this. So what would you say to some of those parents that might be trying to push their kid into being an entrepreneur and maybe the kids like, this isn't my thing.

 

Malcolm Keith (21:58)

Yeah, I'd say my parents didn't necessarily push me. They just put me in the rooms where I learned that that was a path that was available to me. And I think that's the most important because the school system, I mean, it's a fact at this point. It is designed for the employee path. That's just a straight fact. Yeah, but and so there was no yeah, there's no teaching of the entrepreneurial way.

 

Jason Hull (22:09)

Yeah.

 

Right. It makes good employees. Good factory worker.

 

Malcolm Keith (22:27)

And so, and I totally agree that not everybody is built to be an entrepreneur, not everybody's built to be an employee either. And so having that option ⁓ just allows for your team to make a choice and to make an educated choice. And that's what, that's kind of what it's all about is giving them that opportunity and it's up to them whether or not they take it. ⁓ But there are so many lessons from entrepreneurship anyway that can apply to the ⁓

 

Jason Hull (22:31)

Yeah.

 

Malcolm Keith (22:57)

employee path anyway.

 

Jason Hull (22:59)

Yeah, cool. Well, Malcolm, I really appreciate you being here on the DoorGrowth show. How can people find out about the Teen Mastermind, this event, and connect with you?

 

Malcolm Keith (23:11)

Yeah, the best place ⁓ probably for the event would be teammastermylive.com.

 

Jason Hull (23:17)

teenmastermindlive.com. Cool. So if you're a parent listening to this and you're like, man, I got a teenager and they might be interested in this and this sounds cool. Maybe this would be exciting for them. Then go check out teenmastermind. That's what it is, teenmastermind.com. Live. Okay, teenmastermindlive.com. Cool. Malcolm, thanks for coming here on the DoorGro show and hanging out with me for a bit. Keep going. Excited to see what you do next as you move into.

 

Malcolm Keith (23:33)

Yeah.

 

Jason Hull (23:46)

adulthood outside of being just a teenager, right? So very cool. All right. I've got a whining dog here in my office, so it might be time to go. for those, if you're a property management business owner and you enjoyed this episode, if you've ever felt stuck or stagnant and you want to take your property management business to the next level, reach out to us at door, go.com for free training on how to get unlimited free leads. Text the word leads to five one two six four eight four six zero eight.

 

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