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An outdoor classroom for land stewardship—and life skills

Down to Earth: The Planet to Plate Podcast

Release Date: 09/09/2025

Bringing bison back to indigenous lands show art Bringing bison back to indigenous lands

Down to Earth: The Planet to Plate Podcast

Montana filmmaker Daniel Glick decided to make a film about bison just because he loved the animals and wanted to be around them. He teamed up with Blackfeet filmmakers Ivan and Ivy MacDonald to co-direct the documentary, Bring them Home, narrated by Lily Gladstone. The film explores the history of bison on the North American continent and the Blackfeet nation in particular; the parallel genocides of native people and the animal that provided them with sustenance, both practical and spiritual; and the movement to bring surviving herds of bison back to their ancestral lands. In this...

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Meet Xochitl, Quivira’s new Executive Director show art Meet Xochitl, Quivira’s new Executive Director

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Xochitl Torres Small grew up in Las Cruces, NM, and started her career as an attorney who has working in water and natural resources law. She served as U.S. Representative for New Mexico's 2nd congressional district (2019-20); she was Under Secretary for Rural Development (2021-23); and she served as United States deputy secretary of agriculture (2023-25). She brings her wide-ranging experience Executive Director of Quivira Coalition, and in our conversation she talks about her background, government service, and visions for regeneration and collaboration across the food system. ...

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Food, power, and hope in the American West show art Food, power, and hope in the American West

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In today's podcast, we talk to Jennifer Sahn, editor of , and writers and , about HCN's September issue, a collaboration with the Food & Environment Reporting Network (FERN). The issue covers a wide range of topics on Food and Power in the American West.  TIMELINE 1'57 and collaboration on "Food and Power in the West" issue 3'17 stories in the issue including meat packing and pecan growing 6'10 the 7'52 what is the 10'12 RICK BASS 10'57 the definition of sustainability and why it's not 100% attainable 12'41 forest service is part of the department of agriculture but really...

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The perils and poetics of being a fire lookout  show art The perils and poetics of being a fire lookout

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grew up on a farm in Minnesota, studied journalism, and got a job at the Wall Street Journal. But after the September 11 attacks and the death of his brother, he left New York behind and took a job as a fire lookout in the Gila National Forest in New Mexico. Following in the footsteps of other fire lookout writers, poets, and philosophers, like Gary Snyder, Jack Kerouac, and Jack Loeffler, he wrote his first book, Fire Season, in 2011. Since then he written three more books, the latest of which, The Mountain Knows the Mountain, incorporates poetry — particularly haiki — to engage both...

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Ted Turner's Ranch: Watching degraded ecosystems bounce back show art Ted Turner's Ranch: Watching degraded ecosystems bounce back

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In 1996, media mogul Ted Turner bought a New Mexico ranch that's bigger than many national parks. A new film, Preserved, details its history, conservation projects, and influence. Previously owned by Pennzoil, the ranch was badly degraded from overgrazing, forest clearcutting, coal mines, fossil fuel extraction, railroads, and a long-term lack of environmental stewardship. Turner's goal was to restore the land and its wildlife, while keeping the ranch profitable through livestock and tourism businesses. The film explores the history and conservation activities of Vermejo Park Ranch,...

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An outdoor classroom for land stewardship—and life skills show art An outdoor classroom for land stewardship—and life skills

Down to Earth: The Planet to Plate Podcast

Quinn Mendelson is Conservation Program Director of , a nonprofit that trains young adults to do conservation work in the "outdoor classroom" of New Mexico's landscapes. Not only do they learn skills like trail building, watershed restoration, and wildfire mitigation, but they also receive training that helps them to get jobs—as well as less quantifiable but just as important life skills like getting along with each other, finding their own authentic voices, and being in nature for long periods. The program has been going for three decades, and has led many of its alumni into...

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The Good Meat Movement show art The Good Meat Movement

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What is "good meat"? Michele Thorne has a lot to say on the subject. She is executive director of , a non-profit whose mission is to foster a healthy and humane meat system that centers local production instead of industrial monopolies that damage ecosystems and consolidate wealth. With the core value of transparency, they offer free services to butchers, ranchers, eaters, and chefs, and produce journals and that feature stories about people across the good meat universe. TIMELINE 3'51 what is good meat? 4'52 soil stewardship 5'12 the core value of transparency 5'55 the importance of consumer...

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Navajo farming and entrepreneurship––for the next generation show art Navajo farming and entrepreneurship––for the next generation

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Zachariah Ben is a sixth-generation farmer from Shiprock, New Mexico. He and his family founded Bidii Baby Foods. Using traditional Navajo food traditions, they provide healthy, nutritious, and locally-grown food to Navajo people, many of whom are living in food deserts. And, through entrepreneurship and traditional farming, they seek to heal generational trauma by fostering not only physical health but also spiritual connection to land and community––from surviving to thriving. 4'12 traditional Navajo farming principles 5'01 trauma healing 5'31 farming with the stars, singing, birth...

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Feeding a Divided America show art Feeding a Divided America

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Gilles Stockton is author of the new book, Feeding a Divided America: Reflections of a Western Rancher in the Era of Climate Change, published by University of New Mexico Press. A third generation cattle rancher, he raises beef cattle and sheep on a 5000-acre ranch in Grass Range, Montana. He’s also an international agriculture development specialist and an advocate for ranching and farming communities. The new book imparts a lifetime of wisdom and analysis of what happened to our agriculture system, why, and how we can create a system that gives power back to the farmers who are...

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Feeding a Divided America  show art Feeding a Divided America

Down to Earth: The Planet to Plate Podcast

Giles Stockton is author of the new book, Feeding a Divided America: Reflections of a Western Rancher in the Era of Climate Change, published by University of New Mexico Press. A third generation cattle rancher, he raises beef cattle and sheep on a 5000-acre ranch in Grass Range, Montana. He’s also an international agriculture development specialist and an advocate for ranching and farming communities. The new book imparts a lifetime of wisdom and analysis of what happened to our agriculture system, why, and how we can create a system that gives power back to the farmers who are...

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Quinn Mendelson is Conservation Program Director of Rocky Mountain Youth Corps, a nonprofit that trains young adults to do conservation work in the "outdoor classroom" of New Mexico's landscapes. Not only do they learn skills like trail building, watershed restoration, and wildfire mitigation, but they also receive training that helps them to get jobs—as well as less quantifiable but just as important life skills like getting along with each other, finding their own authentic voices, and being in nature for long periods. The program has been going for three decades, and has led many of its alumni into fulfilling conservation careers. 

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3'27 what the corps is all about
4'18 conservation skills, professional skills, life skills
5'52 example of a river project
6'59 so good for young people to have these outdoor opportunities
7'33 adjusting to outdoor work
9'30 people slowing down in the wilderness, and building self-confidence 
11'31 paying living wages so the they can recruit from all demographics
13'50 bonding with people for life, and a tight alumni base, and those people work in every related field
15'43 the projects themselves, some using Bill Zeedyk techniques
18'13 showing the young people to see the big picture
18'46 creating a blueprint for post-fire restoration
19'52 coming back for additional years of work
21'12 relationship between the Corps and the surrounding communities 
22'54 the connection between this work and regenerative agriculture
24'54 young people with an ag background, or wanting to get into ag through learning conservation work
26'10 learning about soil is central to all the work they do
27'36 as Corps alumni take their place in agency and roles of responsibility, this could change how policy is shaped 
28'13 the way people are talking about fire now has evolved a lot in the last few decades
28'57 using beaver biomimicry
29'19 restoring firefly habitat in Chimayó, NM 
31'06 people coming back to see the work they've done in future years
32'38 other similar corps all over the US
33'07 there are fewer than 100,000 young people doing this work; there should be millions
33'51 scholarships for higher education
34'20 dream job for a young person
35'32 this is part of Americorps
37'27 Quinn's work on therapeutic ranches
39'01 this is so much about hope for him and the org
40'43 potential careers
43'05 the need for an educated conservation workforce is and will continue to be great
44'37 what kinds of knowledge each generation is given
46'33 passing the torch to younger generations
48'02 working easily with partners, and providing labor for projects