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Mini-Awe-Polis 6

Awe, Nice!

Release Date: 01/30/2026

Allana Salmon show art Allana Salmon

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Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms. And you can check us out   This week I visited with Allana Salmon from Ohio. Allana teaches horsemanship and rock climbing, but it was on a trek with friends toward a climb called Listerine Girl, in the Red River Gorge, when she experienced what she wanted to share here.  Allana told me that before three years ago, she was her own worst enemy. No one disliked her more than herself, she said. Since then, she’s done a lot of work, including therapy,...

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Joe Morris, III show art Joe Morris, III

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Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms.  This week we wrap up our short visit with rancher from California. Joe thinks deeply about his work, literally and figuratively. While many of us are looking at what’s in front of us, Joe has learned to see beyond.  Awe, Nice! welcomes interviewees. If you have a moment you experienced while working outside and would like to share it, contact us at awenice.com. We thank knives and salt for their generous sponsorship. Music is by my friend,...

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Cooper Hibbard show art Cooper Hibbard

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Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. This week, I visited with Cooper Hibbard from Montana. Cooper runs the which is part of the in Helena, Montana. The Co-op, with has beef, lamb, and other offerings from five central Montana ranches, is committed to transforming the status quo of beef production to a more regenerative, giving-back model. They’re doing some really cool stuff and I encourage you to check them out.  Cooper traveled far and wide - to South American and Australia, to name a few places - before coming back to take the reins of his...

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Joe Morris, II show art Joe Morris, II

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 Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms. And you can check us out at awenice.com.  This week we have another visit with Joe Morris from California. Joe runs and is an award-winning of environmental stewardship and regenerative ag. This second moment involves the cattle.  The connections we have – with other animals and with the land – become more and more apparent when we can pause and pay attention. The connections are full of energy and communication. There is often an...

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Carol Von Michaelis, II show art Carol Von Michaelis, II

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  Welcome to !, where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms.  This week, I visited again with Carol Von Michaelis from Arvada, Colorado. Carol runs which seeks to bridge the gap between agriculture, the outdoors, and urban residents. Lots of people visit and when they do, they are likely greeted by Pepsi, a mini donkey that came into Carol’s life when the two were paired for a burro race. What’s a burro race? Glad you asked! Pack burro racing is the Colorado’s official summer heritage sport....

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Joe Morris, I show art Joe Morris, I

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Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms.  This week I interviewed from California. Joe is a horseman raised in the vaquero tradition and part of an accomplished, multi-generational line of ranching in his family. He learned holistic management practices from , who many say pioneered the field. Joe told me he sees the animals and the land as one community, a whole. We have three short moments from Joe. The first involves a young horse he started years ago when he was working on a large...

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Erin Nissen show art Erin Nissen

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 Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms. And you can check us out at awenice.com.  This week I interviewed Erin Nissen from Mosca, Colorado. Erin farms in the San Luis Valley which is known many things, but in our case, potatoes. Idaho may lead the nation in production, but the Valley still contributes mightily – some two billion pounds of potatoes a year. Just a bit of vocabulary: the words “bin” and “plenum” refer to a specialized building where potatoes are stored. Thanks to...

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Carol Von Michaelis show art Carol Von Michaelis

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 Welcome to , where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. We’re on the radio and we’re also on podcast platforms. And you can check us out at awenice.com. That’s a-w-e-n-i-c-e This week, I visited with Carol Von Michaelis mc haylis from Arvada. Carol grew up around Golden and it was there as a high school student that she volunteered for the local ambulance. That work evolved into EMT work she served for some time on wildland fires for the forest service. Over time, she got her nursing degree, then her physician’s assistant degree, and, for good measure, a PhD...

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Robert Eversole show art Robert Eversole

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 Welcome to where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. My name is Maddy Butcher and this week we are giving another nod to the 2026 Lunar New Year, the Year of the Horse. I interviewed Robert Eversole, also known as the for his expansive horse camping and trail riding website and for his many clinics he holds on traveling safely with equines. Robert and his two mules live in Washington and here he describes an outing in the Pasayten Wilderness, in Washington, near the Canadian border. Elevation about 7,000 feet.  After recording, Robert and I talked about all...

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Jeremie Forman, III show art Jeremie Forman, III

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  Welcome to where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. My name is Maddy Butcher and this week we are giving a nod to the 2026 Lunar New Year. It’s the Year of the Horse. Jeremie Forman returns with a story that’s fitting to the celebration. Aside from his work in law enforcement and his running a horse facility, Jeremie is mayor of the small town of Francis, Utah. Population about 2,000. Every year for many years, Jeremie has run the town’s summer rodeo. One year, as he recounts, he wanted to do something special as a presentation to open the rodeo. For his...

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Welcome to Awe Nice!, where we highlight moments of wonder while working outdoors. My name is Maddy Butcher, I’m the creator and producer of awenice and it’s time for another segment that I call, Mini-Awe-Polis, a collection of observations, like hay in my jacket pockets. 

If you’ve been listening to lately, you know that we have dedicated several segments to wildland fire fighting, specifically some moments as told by members of Interagency Hot Shot crews, who are elite wildland fire fighters charged with some of the most risky assignments. I think it would be a safe summation to say that their moments of awe were particularly adrenalin-fueled.

It got me thinking about what awe means. What does it mean for me? What does it mean for my interviewees? What does it mean for you, dear listener?

Roughly, awe for me means a moment in time that’s memorable for what I’m seeing and experiencing with all my senses. Often, but not all the time, moments of awe are around something unexpected, something I have never witnessed before. Or, it could something that starts out as totally expected but then takes a brilliant turn which stops me in my tracks.

I have moments of awe that are not adrenalin-y at all. Like seeing Niagara Falls.

I have other moments that are quite adrenalin-y. Like seeing my kids run hellbent towards the Niagara River above the falls.

This might sound absurd, but when you visit the Falls, you can park in a big parking lot and basically walk right up to the river’s edge. Nothing’s stopping you from walking right in. My memory of seeing the falls will be forever tied to screaming bloody murder as my sons, then four, six, and eight, chased gulls and sprinted towards the current that would horrendously carry them away. 

It's true, as research tells us, that high emotions can cement, conflate, and even embellish memories that might otherwise fade away. Just so you know, there is no embellishment here. My rotten kids really did run for the river. And Niagara Falls is impressive. It’s loud and you can feel the mist of it on your face from a long ways away.  

Anyway, I’ve been spending some time in southern Arizona. At night, I take the dogs for a walk and do last call the horses. Sometimes I use a headlamp and when I do, I’ve been catching these little flecks of reflection in the dirt. At first, I thought they were just shiny parts of sand or rock. But they are not. They are the eyes of certain spiders that build burrows and scoot back in them when approached. Pretty cool.

Everything here is prickly, spiny, thorny, and pokey. The dogs and horses have figured it out pretty quickly. Me, less so. Often, plants will have the obvious spines but then also less obvious, frankly impossible-to-see spines that might feel okay at first, when you make the mistake of coming into contact with them, but 10 minutes later you’re mumbling and grumbling, shaking your hand and tenderly googling how best to extract prickers you can’t even see. 

I’m still amazed by how the birds perch and feed on cactus.

I don’t live near where there are saguaros. It’s too cold. But I like seeing them. Did you know that it takes about 15 years for a saguaro cactus to grow 12 inches? And it takes another 60 or more years for it to grow an arm. Saguaros serve as some pretty cool homes for birds, who have, of course, figured out the prickers. 

Awe, Nice! welcomes interviewees. If you have a moment you experienced while working outside and would like to share it, contact us at awenice.com. By the way, Kershaw knives, makers of some of the best pocket knives out there, has stepped up to sponsor Awe, Nice. Check out the Ken Onion line. They’re excellent.

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Music is by my friend, Forrest Van Tuyl.

Keep your eyes, ears, and mind open. Until next time.