Illumination Zone: Episode 220 | Tom O'Connor of GCLTC, Elizabeth Guthrie and Brett Burney sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
Release Date: 01/09/2026
Illumination Zone: Episode 228 | Jon Robins of Level Legal sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Jon Robins, CTO and Vice President of eDiscovery for EDRM Trusted Partner Level Legal, sits down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Jon shares Level Legal's approach to building systems, emphasizing the importance of asking the right initial questions and the value of being tool-agnostic, particularly in AI integration. The conversation also explores Level Legal's commitment to care and responsiveness to client requests and requirements, concluding with perspectives on how quantum computing will influence eDiscovery in the future.
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Illumination Zone: Episode 227 | Michael Cammack and Stephanie Wienke of HaystackID sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Michael Cammack, Deputy Information Security Officer, and Stephanie Wienke, Security Specialist for EDRM Trusted Partner HaystackID, sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Michael and Stephanie recount their journeys to cyber and eDiscovery as well as their University of Wisconsin alumni relationship. The two share insights into the unique challenges of bringing an entire organization into an AI governance framework, covering topics from the highly technical to the entirely human. They introduce the concept of governance debt as new, exciting systems come online. With...
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Illumination Zone: Episode 226 | Greg Moreman of Level Legal sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Greg Moreman, Partner, Client Solutions for EDRM Trusted Partner Level Legal, sits down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Greg shares Level Legal's approach to integrating AI into client workflows, emphasizing defensibility, measurable outcomes, and the importance of not just a human in the loop, but an expert human in the loop. He discusses starting with smaller pilots before scaling, explaining why AI is not an "easy button," but a transformative one when implemented thoughtfully. The conversation concludes with plans to connect at Legalweek, where Level Legal will...
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Illumination Zone: Episode 225 | Cash Butler of Legalverse Media and Marc Mandel of Exos sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Cash Butler, founder of Legalverse Media, and Marc Mandel, senior vice president and general counsel for Exos, sit down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Cash and Marc recount their journeys to their current remit as well as Marc’s potential recognition as an ACC Value Champion for the changes he has made in how his legal department functions and serves the business. Marc talks about his current coding project, which he will be releasing soon, and they both share a fun fact about themselves.
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Illumination Zone: Episode 224 | Timothy Conlon of DarrowEverett sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Timothy Conlon, a partner and practice leader for DarrowEverett’s Private Client Group and co-chair of its Family Law Practice Group, sits down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Tim recounts his journey from family law to eDiscovery and discusses his book, "Electronic Evidence for Family Law Attorneys." Tim explains how his investigative experience with early computer fraud cases sensitized him to the impact of electronic evidence, noting how the "supercomputer in a pocket" can contain self-disclosed, damaging evidence in domestic relations cases. He also offers...
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Illumination Zone: Episode 223 | Jeffrey Fleming and Aleida Gonzalez of HaystackID sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Jeffrey Fleming and Aleida Gonzalez, Managing Directors for EDRM Trusted Partner, HaystackID sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Jeff and Aleida recount their journeys to cyber and eDiscovery as well as their professional association over the years spanning policy, practice and technology. The two shared insights into the unique challenges of governing AI from a cyber and risk focused perspective, and how organizations and teams can get started. With the field moving rapidly, this duo shared their rich experience and tips for getting value out of AI without...
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Illumination Zone: Episode 222 | Elizabeth Guthrie of Nextpoint sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Elizabeth Guthrie, Content Manager for EDRM Trusted Partner Nextpoint, sits down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Elizabeth recounts her journey from Northwestern University to eDiscovery. Elizabeth explained how being new to eDiscovery allowed her to explore and construct understandable instructional material. Later, as her understanding deepened, she enjoyed describing the unsettled areas of practice. Elizabeth also gave us a good look at what is upcoming in 2026, a preview of their fall user conference in Chicago (On Point), and we made a plan to connect at...
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"Echoes of AI: Episode 44 | Lessons for Legal Profession from the Latest Viral Meme: 'Ask an AI What It Would Do If It Became Human For a Day?' "
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Attorney, award-winning blogger, and AI expert Ralph Losey's curated and vetted podcast features his Anonymous Podcasters as they do a deep dive on Ralph's EDRM blog post titled "Lessons for Legal Profession from the Latest Viral Meme: 'Ask an AI What It Would Do If It Became Human For a Day?'"
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Illumination Zone: Episode 221 | Jenny Hamilton, CLO of Exterro, sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Jenny Hamilton, Chief Legal Officer of EDRM Trusted Partner Exterro, sits down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, Jenny talks about her journey from private practice to corporate to in-house at a provider. She explained the trends she’s observed, emphasizing her view that legal and eDiscovery professionals are well suited to lead AI adoption with a risk-aware approach. Jenny also talks about her collaboration with her podcasting team in producing Data Xposure and the compelling conversations they have, ending with a surprising, fun fact from her early style blogging...
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Illumination Zone: Episode 220 | Tom O'Connor of GCLTC, Elizabeth Guthrie and Brett Burney sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson
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Elizabeth Guthrie, Brett Burney, eLaw Evangelist of EDRM Trusted Partner Nextpoint, and Tom O'Connor, Director of the Gulf Coast Legal Technology Center, sit down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, the team shares their excitement over the release of Tom's new book, Artificial Intelligence for the Rest of Us. The team explained the challenges of nailing down the book in the midst of rapid Large Language Model (LLM) upgrades and changes. Elizabeth, Tom, and Brett were laser-focused on the benefits for smaller law firms and corporate teams so much that the glossary was...
info_outlineElizabeth Guthrie, Brett Burney, eLaw Evangelist of EDRM Trusted Partner Nextpoint, and Tom O'Connor, Director of the Gulf Coast Legal Technology Center, sit down with EDRM's Mary Mack and Holley Robinson. In this episode, the team shares their excitement over the release of Tom's new book, Artificial Intelligence for the Rest of Us. The team explained the challenges of nailing down the book in the midst of rapid Large Language Model (LLM) upgrades and changes. Elizabeth, Tom, and Brett were laser-focused on the benefits for smaller law firms and corporate teams so much that the glossary was repurposed from the end to the beginning to facilitate understanding. We ended our discussion with surprising fun facts from all three guests. You can order your copy of the book at https://www.nextpoint.com/ai-for-the-rest-of-us-book/.