EMEA Recruitment Podcast #170 - Adaptable Management – Martin Zemp

We were honored to welcome Martin Zemp, CFO Europe at Caldic, onto the EMEA Recruitment podcast. 

“The consciousness of the environment helps all of us. The conversation should start with asking questions, not telling.” 

Paul references Martin’s LinkedIn recommendations praising his management style. Martin explains that he works with people respectfully and highlights the importance of authenticity; by being yourself in interviews you can quickly get a feel for the person and the cultural match, he adds. 

Martin touches on his international career, with assignments in South East Asia and Europe, detailing the impact on his professional and personal life. 

We find out if Martin is a risk-taker. He explains that in his personal life he isn’t, but takes calculated risks in his professional career, as opportunities often stem from them. Martin has prioritized gaining experience across different Finance disciplines, such as Treasury and Trading, considering himself a generalist rather than a specialist. Through working in different disciplines, you can figure out what you like and dislike, he adds.

Martin opens up about his personality traits, considering himself relatively introverted. He often has to push himself into new situations, but without this effort, he risks staying in the background and not speaking up. Stepping into unfamiliar environments, though intimidating, can also be liberating, he says. 

While he remains a quiet person, this hasn’t stopped him from taking on roles that require interacting with others, making decisions, and learning about different organizations. He enjoys challenging himself, and once he succeeds in a new environment, it builds his confidence to continue. Though setbacks occur, he chooses to focus on the positives and move forward.

Martin shares how international management approaches and cultures compare. Originally from Switzerland, he relocated to the Netherlands, where his manager warned him about Dutch directness. Initially skeptical, he quickly experienced an extreme example, which showed him how direct Dutch communication can be. Over time, Martin grew to appreciate Dutch culture, recognizing its efficiency compared to the Swiss tendency to avoid direct confrontation. 

Martin’s experience in Asia highlighted even greater cultural differences in management. Working with local teams required a different approach, while regional and global organizations brought a mix of Western European, American, and local styles. The differences between headquarters’ management styles and local practices could be significant and sometimes overwhelming, he explains. 

Furthermore, Martin highlights key strengths for successfully managing teams across different countries. He values a “live and let live” approach, respecting people for who they are while still addressing performance. Trust is essential for tough conversations to be effective, he believes.

Reflecting on his experience in Vietnam, Martin emphasizes the importance of mutual respect in bridging cultural and language differences. He criticizes expats who rely on authority rather than building relationships, stressing that true collaboration comes from understanding the team. Effective leadership, he states, starts with asking questions rather than giving directives.

Paul asks Martin how wellbeing at work has changed since the pandemic. Companies are now more mindful, recognizing that supporting employees beyond salary can help attract and retain talent, he says. However, he believes employers must be genuine in their efforts - sometimes doing less but in a meaningful way is more effective. Ultimately, mental health initiatives should align with an organization’s culture. 

For those looking to emulate his career, Martin’s advice is to explore opportunities when young, focusing on experiences and good managers rather than salary. Larger organizations can provide more chances to grow, especially for those who want to work abroad. 

Knowing what you want is key, but it’s okay to change direction, Martin explains. He learned this firsthand when moving to the Netherlands, where he had to push himself to be seen and heard. He encourages those who struggle to share their achievements, as being courageous opens doors. Martin openly admits he still gets cold feet at times; it’s difficult to do something new, but after you’ve done it, good experiences motivate and provide self-confidence, allowing the task to get easier over time. 

Martin shares his medium to long-term goals. Professionally, he wants to continue collecting diverse experiences and transform parts of the organization. His next step is a Group CFO role, but it's not a strict must-have. Martin aims to expand his capabilities and support organizations in different ways, moving away from coaching to potentially taking on small board or advisory roles. Step-by-step development is his focus, emphasizing evolution, not revolution. On the personal side, with two teens at home, managing the daily temper is his primary ambition, he jokes.

The episode ends with Martin sharing his musical talent.

To find the part of the episode most interesting to you, please use the timestamps below:

01:45: The last thing that made Martin smile
03:20: Martin’s management style
06:20: Working in diverse locations
08:15: Taking risks in your career
11:40: Being an introvert in business
14:20: How international management styles compare
21:45: Key skills that enable success
29:05: Wellbeing in the workplace
33:30: Choosing Finance
35:50: Career advice
41:40: Martin’s goals
43:55: Martin’s hidden talent

If you’d like to connect with Martin, you can find him on LinkedIn.

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