Breaking the IT Inertia with Google Cloud's Dr. Anton Chuvakin
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
Release Date: 06/05/2025
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with Attila Torok, CISO at GoTo (formerly LogMeIn), to unpack what it really takes to move from security engineer to strategic leader. Attila shares his journey, the advice that shaped his career, and why “relationships matter more than engineering skills.” From mastering executive communication in three bullet points to building your personal brand and navigating AI in the enterprise, this conversation is packed with practical insight for anyone aspiring to the C-suite in cybersecurity.
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with Attila Torok, CISO at GoTo (formerly LogMeIn), to unpack what it really takes to move from security engineer to strategic leader. Attila shares his journey, the advice that shaped his career, and why “relationships matter more than engineering skills.” From mastering executive communication in three bullet points to building your personal brand and navigating AI in the enterprise, this conversation is packed with practical insight for anyone aspiring to the C-suite in cybersecurity.
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In this urgent and eye-opening episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole dives into one of the most consequential moments in U.S. cybersecurity history: the expiration of the Information Sharing Act of 2015, which quietly lapsed the same day the government shut down. Dr. Cole explains how this coincidence has effectively cut off the flow of critical cyber threat intelligence between the U.S. government and private sector, leaving organizations blind to emerging attacks and operating at a major disadvantage. He breaks down the data-driven realities every CISO must communicate to their executive...
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with Michael Centrella, a 25-year veteran of the U.S. Secret Service turned cybersecurity executive, to discuss how lessons from protecting presidents translate into protecting digital infrastructure. Centrella shares his journey from investigating counterfeit currency to leading global cyber investigations, emphasizing how human error remains the biggest security vulnerability despite technological advances. Together, they explore the evolving ransomware landscape, the challenges of balancing security with business friction, and the...
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole breaks down what truly separates good CISOs from world-class ones — the ability to align cybersecurity strategy with the core business mission. He explains that understanding what business your organization is really in is the foundation of effective security leadership. Using real-world examples, Dr. Cole highlights how CISOs must adapt their security priorities based on organizational goals, whether it’s stabilizing growth, driving acquisitions, or enhancing customer experience. He challenges the outdated view that security and business...
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In this high-speed episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole welcomes Ben Wilcox, a rare dual-role executive serving as both CISO and CTO at ProArch — and a race car driver to boot. Ben shares his 30-year journey from building websites in the early internet days to leading enterprise security and technology strategy today. Dr. Cole and Ben dive into the challenges and opportunities of balancing technical innovation with cybersecurity, how to win executive support for security investments, and how to leverage AI for productivity. Ben also drops valuable advice for aspiring CISOs, emphasizing...
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In this solo episode, Dr. Eric Cole steps back into the spotlight after several interview-focused sessions, responding to listeners’ requests to hear directly from him. The result is a powerful, insightful, and foundational deep dive into what it truly means to be a CISO—not just in title, but in mindset, skillset, and strategic execution. This episode isn’t just about definitions—it’s a wake-up call to the cybersecurity industry and professionals aspiring to leadership roles. Dr. Cole challenges conventional thinking, dismantles industry myths, and offers a battle-tested blueprint...
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with Brett Miller, a Marine Corps veteran, former Hollywood creative, and now a leader at Galileo, a cutting-edge satellite communications company. Together, they explore the critical role of secure communications in cybersecurity, disaster response, and everyday life. Brett shares his fascinating journey from running encrypted radio systems in the military to building an app that seamlessly bridges satellite, cellular, and AI-powered emergency planning—all designed to provide redundancy, reliability, and privacy when traditional...
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole interviews Azunna Anyanwu, a fractional CIO, discussing his career journey, the importance of soft skills in cybersecurity leadership, and the challenges of managing budgets and risk. They delve into the complexities of ransomware, the evolving roles of CIOs and CISOs, and the impact of AI on the cybersecurity workforce. Azunna shares valuable insights on training employees to recognize threats and the necessity of establishing a risk tolerance with the board. He emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and setting goals for aspiring...
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with communication strategist and tech-human behavior expert Dr. Jill Schiefelbein. Together, they explore the critical intersection of cybersecurity, leadership, and communication—diving into why technical solutions alone aren’t enough without clear messaging to executives, employees, and end users. From making the case for two-factor authentication to understanding how AI is transforming daily workflows, Dr. Jill shares powerful insights on bridging the gap between technical experts and business leaders. Whether you’re a CISO,...
info_outlineIn this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole reconnects with longtime friend and cybersecurity legend Dr. Anton Chuvakin, whom he has known for over 25 years. The conversation opens with reflections on their decades-long professional journey and transitions into a deep dive into Anton’s current work at Google Cloud’s Office of the CISO. Anton shares how his team supports secure cloud and AI adoption—not as traditional field CISOs focused on sales—but as strategic advisors and researchers helping clients understand and implement Google’s advanced security models.
The discussion spotlights Google’s internal use of Zero Trust architecture, highlighting how Google eliminated the need for VPNs over a decade ago. Anton explains how this approach—initially pioneered through Google’s BeyondCorp—combines stronger security with greater usability, a rare balance in cybersecurity. Dr. Cole presses into why more companies haven’t adopted Zero Trust, prompting Anton to emphasize the power of organizational inertia. Drawing from his years at Gartner, Anton notes that despite the proven benefits, many enterprises resist change due to legacy systems and mindset barriers. This episode offers a compelling look at the evolving landscape of enterprise security and the importance of embracing innovation over outdated habits.