From Pen Testing to Purpose: Jane Frankland on Cyber, Burnout, & Reinvention
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
Release Date: 06/12/2025
Simplifying Cybersecurity, Time Management & Strategic Playbooks
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole dives deep into simplicity, time management, and the foundations of being a world-class Chief Information Security Officer. He explains how rebooting your life and career—just like you reboot a slow computer—can help clear distractions and focus on what truly matters. Dr. Cole also shares strategies for creating a strategic cybersecurity playbook, aligning with executives, setting risk tolerance, and reclaiming wasted time. Whether you’re a seasoned CISO or aspiring to lead in cybersecurity, this episode is packed with actionable advice to...
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The #1 Skill CISOs Need for Career Acceleration (And How to Master It)
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole dives deep into one of the most important yet often overlooked success principles for security leaders: simplicity. Drawing from decades of experience as one of the first CISOs before the title even existed, Dr. Cole explains why going back to the basics is critical for both personal growth and organizational success. He explores the growing demand for skilled CISOs, how to position yourself for top leadership roles, and why communication and rapport—not just technical skills—are the true differentiators for advancement. Using powerful...
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Building Credibility Before the Crisis: Zachary Lewis on Frameworks & Board Trust
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this inspiring episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with Zachary Lewis, Chief Information Security Officer at the University of Health Sciences and Pharmacy in St. Louis. With over five years in the CISO seat and a career that spans startups, coal plants, and higher education, Zach shares his unique journey from sysadmin to security leader. This episode offers a front-row seat into what it really takes to pivot into cybersecurity leadership—especially when you're coming from the IT side. Zach breaks down how to make the transition, why leadership trumps deep technical skills...
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Back to the Basics: How World-Class CISOs Lock Down External Servers
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this solo episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole returns to the mic after a series of interviews to dive deep into the #1 foundational skill every Chief Information Security Officer must master—securing internet-facing servers. With the rising wave of breaches hitting not just Fortune 50 giants but small and mid-size companies, Dr. Cole walks through the exact steps you must take to go back to basics and become a world-class CISO. From identifying forgotten assets to hardening authentication and revamping your patching strategy, this episode is your blueprint to stop attacks before they...
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Building Cybersecurity from the Ground Up: A Conversation with Chuck Brooks
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this powerful episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with cybersecurity thought leader Chuck Brooks—one of the industry's original influencers—to uncover how the past, present, and future of cybersecurity are being shaped by leadership, emerging technology, and real-world experience. From working with President Reagan to helping stand up the Department of Homeland Security, Chuck shares stories that reveal the critical role CISOs play in national security, business resilience, and global collaboration. Together, Dr. Cole and Chuck Brooks dive into the importance of soft...
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Mastering the CISO Journey with Guest Christophe Foulon
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole sits down with cybersecurity expert and fellow podcaster Christophe Foulon to dive deep into the evolving role of the Chief Information Security Officer. From breaking into cybersecurity to leading organizations through strategic risk decisions, Christophe shares real-world insights on how to transition from technical roles to executive leadership. They explore the challenges of balancing hands-on work with high-level strategy, how to communicate with business leaders without getting lost in technical jargon, and how to manage burnout while...
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How a Hacker Became Twitter’s First CISO | Michael Coates on Cybersecurity’s Future
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole welcomes Michael Coates, a seasoned cybersecurity expert with over 20 years of experience. Michael shares his journey from working as a legal hacker to becoming Twitter’s first Chief Information Security Officer (CISO), and later founding his own data security company. They discuss how core cybersecurity principles remain constant despite evolving technologies and threats, emphasizing the importance of mastering fundamentals while adapting to new contexts like cloud and AI. Michael offers practical advice for aspiring CISOs,...
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The Cyber War Has Already Started – Are You Ready?
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
You’re living in a time where science fiction is quickly becoming your reality. In this high-impact episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole breaks down the current state of cybersecurity—from nation-state attacks and massive password breaches to the hidden threats living on your mobile device. You’ll hear Dr. Cole’s unfiltered take on a breach that exposed billions of credentials, why changing your password isn’t enough, and how an old app could be your biggest risk. Dr. Cole challenges you to see yourself not just as a security expert, but as a business leader with the power to...
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CISO Leadership, Trust & Non-Negotiables with Dan Lohrmann
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole welcomes a true cybersecurity trailblazer: Dan Lohrmann. With a career that spans the NSA, Lockheed Martin, the State of Michigan, and now Presidio, Dan brings a rare depth of experience in both government and the private sector. As the first Chief Security Officer for an entire U.S. state and now a Field CISO advising public sector clients across the country, Dan shares practical wisdom and compelling stories about navigating the evolving CISO landscape. Together, Dr. Cole and Dan explore what it takes to build lasting trust as a security...
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From Pen Testing to Purpose: Jane Frankland on Cyber, Burnout, & Reinvention
Life of a CISO with Dr. Eric Cole
In this special episode of Life of a CISO, I sit down with the brilliant Jane Frankland, MBE—an internationally recognized thought leader in cybersecurity with over 28 years of experience. Jane shares her unexpected journey into the field, starting not from a tech background but from art and design. Her curiosity and drive led her to co-found one of the earliest penetration testing consultancies, long before the term "cybersecurity" became mainstream. Together, we dive into how the industry has evolved, why penetration testing has become commoditized, and why it's no longer enough to offer...
info_outlineIn this special episode of Life of a CISO, I sit down with the brilliant Jane Frankland, MBE—an internationally recognized thought leader in cybersecurity with over 28 years of experience. Jane shares her unexpected journey into the field, starting not from a tech background but from art and design. Her curiosity and drive led her to co-found one of the earliest penetration testing consultancies, long before the term "cybersecurity" became mainstream. Together, we dive into how the industry has evolved, why penetration testing has become commoditized, and why it's no longer enough to offer just technical solutions—true value now comes from insight, strategy, and resilience.
Jane also offers powerful reflections on the burnout many CISOs face today and why so many are leaving traditional roles to launch their own consultancies or step into virtual CISO models. We discuss what it really means to build a business in today’s climate, the importance of defining your unique value, and why small businesses are an underrated opportunity in the cyber space. From vendor strategy to shifting away from limiting beliefs, Jane brings a fresh, honest, and empowering perspective that challenges the status quo. Whether you're building your career or launching your own venture, this episode is full of clarity and inspiration for the next step in your cyber journey.