Episode 118 – Adapting to Uncertainty: Tariffs, taxes, and tech’s changing map
Release Date: 07/11/2025
Perspectives: Episode 133 – Who's Paying for AI?
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, discusses just how large the AI capital expenditure budgets have become, where the money is coming from, and which parts of the AI supply chain are most at risk of overinvestment. (0:51) It feels as though every major technology company is announcing another massive increase in AI investment. Just how big has this AI spending boom become? (2:00) What's interesting, though, is that the spending doesn't seem to be slowing. If anything, every earnings season the budgets seem to get bigger. (4:10) Microsoft seems...
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Perspectives: Episode 132 - We Need to Talk About Productivity
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explores why productivity has become the defining investment and economic challenge - and why getting it right could unlock stronger growth, lower inflation, higher living standards and a more durable bull market (1:00) What do you think? What are you saying to clients? (3:55) Those high expectations tend to be a feature of a mature cycle. Is that more the issue? (5:03) The first was the Prime Minister's new AI strategy. The second was the debate around whether Australia's superannuation system should...
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Perspectives: Episode 131 – The Price of Sovereignty
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explores the question: who will pay for the building of strategic capability? From sovereign balance sheets and bond markets to private capital and Australia's superannuation system, she examines how the "Price of Sovereignty" could reshape investing for years to come. (0:44) Can governments actually afford another nation-building cycle? (3:30) Does that mean bond markets become a much bigger part of this story? (5:13) So, the price of sovereignty isn't just the cost of building new...
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Perspectives: Episode 130 – The holiday from history is over
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explores why the world is shifting from efficiency to resilience. Drawing on insights from General David Petraeus, the discussion examines how nations are rebuilding strategic capability, why private capital is increasingly funding critical infrastructure, and what the rise of the Sovereignty Trade means for investors. (0:56) For years investors thought of geopolitics and technology as separate conversations. (2:33) What changed? Why are governments suddenly prepared to sacrifice efficiency in favour of...
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Perspectives: Fund Manager Interview with Paul Moore from PM Capital
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In this episode, Escala Investment Analyst, David Bruty interviews Paul Moore, founder and Chief Investment Officer of PM Capital. Paul discusses how he and his team implement their contrarian investment philosophy, how the PM Global Companies Fund is constructed, and how healthcare is an emerging theme in the fund’s portfolio.
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Perspectives: Episode 129 – AI Native: The Great Operating Model Reset
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, unpacks a series of eye-opening conversations with leading AI investors and operators exploring how AI-native companies are redesigning workflows, reshaping industries, and blurring the lines between software, services, and private equity. (1:34) What struck me reading through your notes wasn’t just the excitement around AI – it was that people are starting to describe AI not as a tool anymore, but as an operating system. (4:21) One thing that also came through very strongly in these conversations was...
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Perspectives: Episode 128 – Dispatches from the US
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, takes us inside the Milken Institute Global Conference 2026, from space-based AI breakthroughs to the massive infrastructure buildout powering the next wave of innovation. (1:09) Alright, you’ve been roaming the halls at Milken earlier this week. Before we get into that, tell us about how it feels on the ground in the US right now. (3:27) You mentioned before you left that there were over 300 sessions across two hotels – the Beverly Wilshire and the Beverly Hilton. (5:03 How did he arrive at creating...
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Perspectives: Fund Manager Interview with Richard Blackburn from CVC Capital Partners
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In this episode, Escala Head of Managed Funds, Stephen Dickinson, speaks with Richard Blackburn from CVC Capital Partners. Richard discusses CVC’s origins and evolution into a leading global private equity firm, why Europe remains a particularly attractive market for private equity returns, and how CVC creates value through disciplined underwriting, active ownership and long-term value creation across its portfolio.
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Perspectives: Episode 127 – A World Rewired
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explains why today’s geopolitical tensions signal a deeper structural shift – and what it means for markets, alliances, and investors. (1:08) Is the current state of the world only as permanent as Trump remains in office? In other words, is this just a phase, or are we actually living through something more structural? (2:30) So, even if the political backdrop changes, the system itself has already shifted? (4:29) Let’s talk about that, because alliances have always been the backbone of the global...
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Perspectives: Episode 126 – Riding the Shock: Staying loose through uncertainty
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In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explains how long-term investors are staying loose on the bars in response to the current oil shock. Plus, why managing today’s risks is bringing back yesterday’s solutions - from steering wheel locks to decades-old pipelines. (0:47) Tracey, there’s a lot hitting markets at once. How do you keep your composure? (3:43) Back in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine, the oil price hit over $120 per barrel. The peak so far is under that. And yet, despite this, the price at the pump here in Australia is higher...
info_outlineIn this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, shares what she is telling clients about the current level of uncertainty particularly in relation to tariffs, taxes and changes in technology.
(1:17) What are you saying to clients about this level of uncertainty?
(3:56) So given that, are you less worried that the trade war and Trumps tariff policies will be the thing that kills this market?
(6:40) So uncertainty is just something we need to accept?
(7:39) There’s this worry you sometimes hear that governments will “go broke in an AI world” because traditional tax bases will erode. Is that real do you think?
(9:03) And we’re already seeing signs of that, right?
(10:28) I would imagine Jeff Bezos didn’t help the cause of his billionaire friends by have such a lavish, opulent wedding. And the US just passed its own big fiscal bill.
(11:03) So neither the US or UK are tackling the long-term revenue challenge head-on.
(12:23) But in the meantime, government debt levels continue to grow. I am reminded of the old adage, how do you go bankrupt, first slowly then quickly.
(14:13) Global equities have done well. Bonds have been relatively well behaved. What’s behind this resiliency?
(15:19) Earlier this year, everything felt like it was about Big Tech and AI megacaps. Has that changed at all?
(16:15) So that means investors might start looking outside the US for tech exposure