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REPLAY: EBB 262 – Advocacy During Birth and Navigating a Hospital Stay for Newborn Jaundice with Emily Chandler and Taylor Washburn, EBB Childbirth Class Graduates

Evidence Based Birth®

Release Date: 01/29/2025

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In today’s episode, we’re revisiting an inspiring birth story featuring Emily Chandler and Taylor Washburn, graduates of the Evidence Based Birth®️® Childbirth Class. They share their journey of navigating an informed and empowered hospital birth experience, along with the challenges they faced during an extended hospital stay for their newborn’s jaundice diagnosis.
 
Emily, a marine scientist, and Taylor, a teacher and rowing coach in the Boston area, enjoy an active lifestyle filled with hiking, biking, and rowing. While preparing for parenthood, Emily immersed herself in learning about pregnancy, birth, and the state of maternity care in the U.S. This journey led them to take the EBB Childbirth Class with instructor Chanté Perryman, where they gained valuable knowledge and advocacy skills.
 
Emily and Taylor share how the EBB Childbirth Class empowered them to make informed decisions about their birth plan—including Taylor’s memorable experience of “catching” their baby. They also highlight the importance of the advocacy skills they learned, which helped them effectively communicate with healthcare providers and navigate unexpected challenges, such as breastfeeding difficulties and securing the right support during their baby’s jaundice treatment.
 
Be sure to listen all the way to the end of the episode for an exciting update from our guests!
 
Content Note: This episode covers topics such as extended hospital stays, breastfeeding challenges, jaundice testing and treatment, and the racial disparities affecting Black and Brown infants with jaundice.

(00:03:15) Doula Guidance During Pregnancy
(00:09:24) Minimal Intervention Birth Plan Worries
(00:17:45) Unexpected Labor Challenges
(00:24:45) Efficient and Caring Nurse's Impact
(00:34:34) Newborn's Breastfeeding and Jaundice Journey
(00:40:03) Newborn Care and Feeding Challenges
(00:43:17) Optimal Umbilical Cord Clamping Timing
(00:47:27) Risk Factors for Infant Jaundice
(00:52:18) Jaundice Warning Signs and Emergency Help
(00:55:57) Home Birth Journey and EBB Impact

Resoures:
  • Get the Evidence Based Birth® Pocket Guide to Newborn Procedures here
  • You can learn more about jaundice here at the Mayo Clinic site, or here at the Cleveland Clinic website.
  • Access the Evidence Based Birth®️ Signature Articles on:
    • The Evidence on Premature Rupture of Membranes here
    • The Evidence on Group B Strep here
    • The Evidence on Pitocin®️ in the Third Stage here
  • Listen to EBB 145- Fatherhood and Advocacy in Birth with JacMichael Perryman here
  • Listen to EBB 244 – Evidence on AROM, AVD and Internal Monitoring here
  • Learn more about Chanté Perryman’s EBB Childbirth Class and services here
  • Learn more about the Nest Collaborative here
For more information about Evidence Based Birth and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker’s book, “Babies Are Not Pizzas: They’re Born, Not Delivered!” If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.