FGM/C: An American Problem as Much as a Global One
Release Date: 03/12/2025
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This conversation is more than just an exploration of a law—it’s a call to action. FGM/C is a human rights issue that affects women everywhere, and it's time to recognize its presence in our own communities.
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Contact Absa and Carolyn: To learn more about the work of The Washington State Coalition to End FGM/C, click here. You can email Carolyn directly at Carolyn.House-Higgins@doh.wa.gov.