SBP 135: Consumer First, Data Always. Post Pod Discussion
Sleeping Barber - A Marketing Podcast
Release Date: 07/30/2025
Sleeping Barber - A Marketing Podcast
In this conversation, Marc Binkley and Vassilis discuss insights from their chat with Bob Park, focusing on brand management, the importance of data in marketing, and the evolving landscape of AI. They explore how to manage multiple brands effectively, the distinction between good and bad data, and the significance of sales as a key metric. The discussion also touches on the shift towards micro-moments in marketing and the future implications of AI in the industry. Enjoy the show! Our Guest: Bob Park: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-park-geappliances/ Follow our updates here: ...
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In this episode of the Sleeping Baber podcast, we engage with Bob Park, formerly the Chief Brand Officer at GE Appliances. We explore the evolving role of brand management, the importance of data-driven decision-making, and the challenges of balancing short-term and long-term marketing strategies. Bob shares insights from the Cannes Changemaker series, emphasizing the need for consumer-centric approaches and the integration of AI in marketing. Our conversation highlights the significance of building relationships within the C-suite and adapting to new media strategies in a rapidly changing...
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In this episode, hosts Vassilis Douros and Marc Binkley discuss things that caught there eye over the last couple of weeks including the evolution of the creator economy, challenges in retail media measurement, the impact of AI on video advertising, and the transformation of performance marketing. They also analyze Ribena's nostalgic marketing campaign, highlighting the emotional connections brands can create with consumers. Enjoy the episode! Follow our updates here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/ https://www.sleepingbarber.ca Get in touch with our hosts: ...
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In this post-pod, Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros reflect on their conversation with David and their collective experiences at Cannes. They discuss the evolving landscape of marketing, the tension between data-driven strategies and the fast-paced media environment, and the importance of long-term campaigns. They explore the role of AI in marketing and the significance of creative strategies, while also highlighting the evolution of the Cannes festival into a global marketing ecosystem. We hope you enjoy this show! Follow our updates here: ...
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In this conversation, Vassilis Douros and David Tiltman discuss the evolution of the Cannes Lions Festival, highlighting its growth and the dual nature of the event (The festival within the festival), which encompasses both creativity and marketing effectiveness. They explore the importance of connecting creativity with commercial frameworks, the impact of AI on marketing, and the significance of craft in advertising. The discussion also touches on the American marketing landscape and the future of Lions Intelligence, emphasizing the need for effective communication in marketing strategies. We...
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In this episode of Barber's Brief, Vassilis Douros is riding solo discussing various marketing trends and insights, including the economic implications of the Calgary Stampede, shifts in Google Ads following AI integration, the impact of viral content on brand growth, MasterCard's pivot to experiential marketing, effective retargeting strategies, and Stella Artois' creative campaign for Wimbledon.
Each topic highlights the evolving landscape of marketing and the importance of adapting strategies t
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Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros discuss their insights from their recent episode featuring Dale Harrison, Zombie Metrics: Don't Fall for Misleading Data.
They explore the concept of 'zombie metrics' in marketing, the outdated funnel model, and the importance of intent data.
The discussion highlights the importance of data literacy among marketers and the significance of marketing effectiveness principles in driving business results. Our hosts reflect on the evolving landscape o
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In this episode, Dale Harrison discusses the concept of 'zombie metrics' and their misleading nature in marketing.
He emphasizes the importance of data literacy for marketers to gain credibility and make informed decisions. The conversation critiques the traditional funnel model, suggesting it is outdated and does not accurately represent the marketing process.
Dale proposes a new way of thinking about marketing metrics, focusing on the impact of brand marketing and the often unreliable nat
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In this episode, Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros reflect on their experiences at Cannes, discussing key highlights, networking with industry leaders, and insights on marketing trends.
They explore the evolving landscape of personalization, the lack of conversation around social purpose, and the need for transparency in media.
The conversation also touches on long-term campaign strategies, innovative advertising examples, and the critical role of attention in effective marketing. They concl
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We’re back with another episode from the Croisette — and today, we unpack a busy (and very hot) Day 4 at Cannes Lions.
Marc and Vassilis reflect on a standout presentation by Mark Ritson, who laid out three pillars for marketing effectiveness: fluency, emotion, and time — and challenged long-held assumptions about personalization, ad wearout, and brand purpose.
They’re also joined by Vanessa Chin, SVP of Marketing and Josh Fruttiger, VP of Global partnerships from System1, who share i
info_outlineIn this conversation, Marc Binkley and Vassilis discuss insights from their chat with Bob Park, focusing on brand management, the importance of data in marketing, and the evolving landscape of AI. They explore how to manage multiple brands effectively, the distinction between good and bad data, and the significance of sales as a key metric. The discussion also touches on the shift towards micro-moments in marketing and the future implications of AI in the industry.
Enjoy the show!
Our Guest:
Bob Park: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-park-geappliances/
Follow our updates here:
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/
https://www.sleepingbarber.ca
Get in touch with our hosts:
Marc Binkley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/
Vassilis Douros: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/
Takeaways
- The weather can influence our mood and conversations.
- Managing multiple brands requires a nuanced understanding of market dynamics.
- Good data is essential for effective marketing strategies.
- Sales metrics should be the primary focus for marketers.
- The marketing landscape is shifting towards smaller, more frequent campaigns.
- AI is rapidly evolving and will impact marketing roles significantly.
- Understanding consumer behaviour is crucial for brand success.
- Data should guide decision-making, but clarity on what is being measured is vital.
- Collaboration across departments is essential for achieving sales goals.
- The future of marketing will involve adapting to new technologies and consumer expectations.
Chapters
- 00:00 Sunny Beginnings and Weather Talk
- 01:55 Insights from Bob Park: Managing Multiple Brands
- 05:18 Data Distinctions: Good vs. Bad
- 09:09 Sales as the Key Metric
- 12:42 The Shift to Smaller Campaigns
- 16:10 The Future of AI and Technology
- 18:05 Reflections on the Conversation