SBP 116: Unlocking Future Power in Branding. With Mary Kyriakidi.
Sleeping Barber - A Marketing Podcast
Release Date: 04/10/2025
Sleeping Barber - A Marketing Podcast
In this conversation, Marc Binkley and Vassilis discuss insights from their chat with Bob Park, focusing on brand management, the importance of data in marketing, and the evolving landscape of AI. They explore how to manage multiple brands effectively, the distinction between good and bad data, and the significance of sales as a key metric. The discussion also touches on the shift towards micro-moments in marketing and the future implications of AI in the industry. Enjoy the show! Our Guest: Bob Park: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-park-geappliances/ Follow our updates here: ...
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In this episode of the Sleeping Baber podcast, we engage with Bob Park, formerly the Chief Brand Officer at GE Appliances. We explore the evolving role of brand management, the importance of data-driven decision-making, and the challenges of balancing short-term and long-term marketing strategies. Bob shares insights from the Cannes Changemaker series, emphasizing the need for consumer-centric approaches and the integration of AI in marketing. Our conversation highlights the significance of building relationships within the C-suite and adapting to new media strategies in a rapidly changing...
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In this episode, hosts Vassilis Douros and Marc Binkley discuss things that caught there eye over the last couple of weeks including the evolution of the creator economy, challenges in retail media measurement, the impact of AI on video advertising, and the transformation of performance marketing. They also analyze Ribena's nostalgic marketing campaign, highlighting the emotional connections brands can create with consumers. Enjoy the episode! Follow our updates here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/ https://www.sleepingbarber.ca Get in touch with our hosts: ...
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In this post-pod, Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros reflect on their conversation with David and their collective experiences at Cannes. They discuss the evolving landscape of marketing, the tension between data-driven strategies and the fast-paced media environment, and the importance of long-term campaigns. They explore the role of AI in marketing and the significance of creative strategies, while also highlighting the evolution of the Cannes festival into a global marketing ecosystem. We hope you enjoy this show! Follow our updates here: ...
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In this conversation, Vassilis Douros and David Tiltman discuss the evolution of the Cannes Lions Festival, highlighting its growth and the dual nature of the event (The festival within the festival), which encompasses both creativity and marketing effectiveness. They explore the importance of connecting creativity with commercial frameworks, the impact of AI on marketing, and the significance of craft in advertising. The discussion also touches on the American marketing landscape and the future of Lions Intelligence, emphasizing the need for effective communication in marketing strategies. We...
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In this episode of Barber's Brief, Vassilis Douros is riding solo discussing various marketing trends and insights, including the economic implications of the Calgary Stampede, shifts in Google Ads following AI integration, the impact of viral content on brand growth, MasterCard's pivot to experiential marketing, effective retargeting strategies, and Stella Artois' creative campaign for Wimbledon.
Each topic highlights the evolving landscape of marketing and the importance of adapting strategies t
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Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros discuss their insights from their recent episode featuring Dale Harrison, Zombie Metrics: Don't Fall for Misleading Data.
They explore the concept of 'zombie metrics' in marketing, the outdated funnel model, and the importance of intent data.
The discussion highlights the importance of data literacy among marketers and the significance of marketing effectiveness principles in driving business results. Our hosts reflect on the evolving landscape o
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In this episode, Dale Harrison discusses the concept of 'zombie metrics' and their misleading nature in marketing.
He emphasizes the importance of data literacy for marketers to gain credibility and make informed decisions. The conversation critiques the traditional funnel model, suggesting it is outdated and does not accurately represent the marketing process.
Dale proposes a new way of thinking about marketing metrics, focusing on the impact of brand marketing and the often unreliable nat
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In this episode, Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros reflect on their experiences at Cannes, discussing key highlights, networking with industry leaders, and insights on marketing trends.
They explore the evolving landscape of personalization, the lack of conversation around social purpose, and the need for transparency in media.
The conversation also touches on long-term campaign strategies, innovative advertising examples, and the critical role of attention in effective marketing. They concl
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We’re back with another episode from the Croisette — and today, we unpack a busy (and very hot) Day 4 at Cannes Lions.
Marc and Vassilis reflect on a standout presentation by Mark Ritson, who laid out three pillars for marketing effectiveness: fluency, emotion, and time — and challenged long-held assumptions about personalization, ad wearout, and brand purpose.
They’re also joined by Vanessa Chin, SVP of Marketing and Josh Fruttiger, VP of Global partnerships from System1, who share i
info_outlineIn this episode of The Sleeping Barber Podcast, hosts Mark Binkley and Vasilis Douros are joined once again by Mary Kirikiri, global thought leader at Kantar. They explore insights from Mary’s CMO series, diving into future power, meaningful difference, and pricing strategy. The conversation covers how brand equity drives growth, the link between pricing power and perceived value, and why evidence-based marketing is essential for long-term success. From brand salience to pricing elasticity, this episode unpacks the tools marketers need to influence both consumers and the boardroom.
Our Guest:
Mary Kyriakidi
Global Thought Leader @ Kantar
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-kyriakidi-4a5a4a57/
Follow our updates here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/
Get in touch with our hosts:
Marc Binkley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/
Vassilis Douros: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
01:40 Inspiration Behind the CMO Series
04:24 Mary's Journey to Global Thought Leader
05:26 Kantar's Research Focus and Paradigm Shift
09:36 Understanding Future Power and Meaningful Difference
12:01 The Drivers of Future Power
15:00 Mental vs. Physical Availability in Branding
18:01 Accelerators for Growth in Branding
22:04 Finding New Space for Brands
24:20 The Link Between Pricing and Brand Strength
24:50 Understanding Pricing Power and Elasticity
27:40 The Importance of Brand Positioning
29:02 Willingness to Pay and Perceived Differences
32:12 Aligning Brand Value with Pricing Strategy
35:01 Influencing Budget Decisions in Marketing
39:11 The Role of Brand Trackers in Marketing Strategy
Background Research & Links:
Blueprint for Brand Growth: https://www.kantar.com/campaigns/blueprint-for-brand-growth?
Some links to the diary are below:
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/diary-of-a-cmo-what-is-the-blueprint-for-brand-growth
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/how-can-you-approach-the-cfo-to-argue-for-greater-investment-in-your-brand
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/diary-of-a-cmo-i-am-a-small-brand-with-big-dreams-how-can-i-grow-faster
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/diary-of-a-cmo-is-your-categorys-ceiling-coming-down-on-you
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/Diary-of-a-CMO-How-can-I-protect-my-brand-against-copycats
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/diary-of-a-cmo-whats-the-secret-recipe-to-combat-private-label
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/brands/diary-of-a-cmo-whats-marketings-contribution-to-profit
https://www.kantar.com/north-america/expertise/brand-growth/brand-tracking