Eat for the Body You Want: How Protein Quality Changes Everything: Dr. Chris Lockwood
Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina
Release Date: 06/09/2025
Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Jump to start of the episode: 13:30 In this Friday solo episode, Vanessa Spina breaks down the first half of her latest interview with Dr. Donald Layman — legendary protein researcher and one of the most featured guests in the history of the Optimal Protein Podcast. They cover game-changing updates to U.S. dietary guidelines, red meat’s misunderstood...
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Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ—clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. This week on the Optimal Protein Podcast, I’m thrilled to be joined once again by Dr. Don Layman, one of the world’s foremost experts in protein metabolism and amino acid science. In this first part of our two-part conversation, we take a deep dive into the true definition of protein quality, the flaws of current scoring systems, and the...
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IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this solocast episode, Vanessa shares a detailed recap of her interview with Dr. Eduardo de Souza, associate professor at the University of Tampa and one of the world’s leading researchers in body recomposition and exercise science. This episode is a masterclass on building muscle and losing fat at the same time—even for trained individuals. ➡️...
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Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ—clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at . In this powerhouse episode, Dr. Eduardo de Souza breaks down the real science of body recomposition—how to lose fat and build muscle simultaneously, even for advanced lifters. He shares the key strategies proven to work: optimal training volume, smart calorie deficits, high protein intake, and the underrated role of sleep. If you’ve hit a plateau or want to...
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IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this solo recap episode, Vanessa breaks down the top takeaways from her interview with one of the world’s leading experts in body composition and metabolism — Dr. Mike Ormsbee, Professor at Florida State University and Director of the Institute of Sports Sciences and Medicine. Dr. Ormsbee has published over 200 peer-reviewed papers and is...
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In this eye-opening episode of the Optimal Protein Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Chris Lockwood, PhD—a renowned sports nutrition scientist, industry expert, and former Editor-in-Chief of the International Society of Sports Nutrition Journal—to break down why not all protein is created equal. We dive deep into the Survive vs. Thrive paradigm, uncover how amino acids act as powerful metabolic signals, and explain the critical role of protein quality in fat loss, muscle gain, and long-term health.
Whether you’re trying to optimize body composition, preserve lean mass as you age, or understand why your plant-based protein isn’t delivering results, this episode delivers actionable science you need to hear.
What We Cover in This Episode:
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🧬 The surprising ways protein supports your entire body—far beyond just muscle
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⚖️ What “Survive vs. Thrive” really means when it comes to protein source
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📡 Why some proteins send powerful growth signals—and others don’t
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🌱🥩 The truth behind plant-based vs. animal-based proteins for body composition
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🧪 What most studies don’t tell you about protein effectiveness
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🔥 How protein can help—or hinder—your fat loss and muscle gain goals
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👵 The real reason aging adults struggle with muscle loss
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🚨 Why your daily protein choices may be sending the wrong message to your body
Key Quote:
“Every time you eat, you’re sending your body a signal: either to build, maintain, or break down. Choosing the right protein means choosing the right signal.”
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