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Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

Release Date: 03/13/2026

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Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

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📩 Join the waitlist for Vanessa’s upcoming Protein-Sparing Modified Fasting Library and receive the special LAUNCH DISCOUNT! Join HERE

In this episode, Vanessa Spina breaks down the biggest insights from her recent conversation with Dr. Jason Fung, one of the leading voices in fasting and metabolic health.

The episode also covers fasting strategies, emerging research on protein-supported fasting approaches like protein-sparing modified fasting (PSMF), the benefits and limitations of GLP-1 medications, and why women often experience increased fat gain during perimenopause.

Vanessa explains the three types of hunger described in Dr. Fung’s new book The Hunger Code, how ultra-processed foods disrupt satiety hormones, and why protein plays such a powerful role in appetite regulation and body recomposition.

If you’re interested in fat loss, metabolic health, and the hormonal drivers of hunger, this episode connects the science with practical strategies you can apply right away.

In this episode:

• The three types of hunger and why overeating isn’t just about willpower

• How ultra-processed foods blunt satiety hormones

• Why protein helps activate fullness signals

• The hormonal differences between whole foods and refined carbohydrates

• Fasting strategies, including modified fasts and protein-supported fasting

• GLP-1 medications and potential effects on body composition

• Why perimenopause can increase fat gain risk for women

• Practical steps to support fat loss and metabolic health

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📩 Join the waitlist for Vanessa’s upcoming Protein-Sparing Modified Fasting Library and receive the special LAUNCH DISCOUNT! Join HERE

📘 Dr. Jason Fung’s new book: The Hunger Code

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Get my free NEW high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook

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🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not nutritional or medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.