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Fighting for Not Against Each Other

Doctor & Mrs

Release Date: 01/22/2026

When you’re in the middle of an argument, it’s easy to get laser-focused on winning—proving your point, landing the final word, protecting your pride. But the person across from you isn’t the enemy… they’re the one who knows how to steady you, soften you, and help you heal.
In this episode, Dr. Gary Penn and Jeannine Chanin Penn talk about what it means to fight for each other, not against each other—how to stay on the same team when emotions run high, how to repair faster, and how to turn conflict into connection instead of collateral damage.
Listen in, laugh with us, and take one new tool into your next hard moment—so love wins more often than ego.