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Episode 46: Jenna K: Healing Trauma Held in the Body and a Journey of Softening into the Heart

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Release Date: 02/13/2025

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Episode 46: Jenna K: Healing Trauma Held in the Body and a Journey of Softening into the Heart show art Episode 46: Jenna K: Healing Trauma Held in the Body and a Journey of Softening into the Heart

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In this conversation, I sit down with my friend Jenna K., to discuss her ceremonies with MDMA and psilocybin.  

We discussed her "Why?" and this space of pain and trauma living in her body - that she couldn't quite access for over a decade with other modalities. It led Jenna to want to explore on a deeper level with plant medicine, to heal what was held in her body for so many years. 
 
Themes within the discussion:
  • Feeling the "call" to sit with the plant medicine. 
  • The deep surrender to letting go of control.
  • Feeling safe enough in the life that she had created, to feel like she would be held through these experiences.
  • How her life made sense to her after the initial MDMA journey.
  • Her body purging out the trauma during the ceremony.
  • The shame and feeling of brokenness when the childhood trauma was revealed.
  • That her childhood abuse was not her fault.
  • Stepping into her Knowing - that her body and these memories were the truth.
  • The deep healing, illuminations, and heart opening within herself.
  • The continual and necessary work between ceremonies.
  • How to resource oneself after uncovering traumatic material.
  • How anger and rage have protected her.
  • The need for continual softening.
  • That plant medicine is not a "cure all" but dives deeply into traumatic material that needs to be seen and held.
  • The connection to spirit in these experiences. 

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