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Ep 40: Zachary Babcock — The Identity-Changing Power Of Self Talk And Psychedelics

Good Dudes Grow

Release Date: 09/20/2021

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Zachary Babcock was sitting in prison, having just been booked a second time after a previous four-year stint, trying to picture what his newborn twin sons looked like. That’s when, as he tells it, he woke up.


He’d grown up without a father himself, spending time in and out of juvenile detention centers, boys’ homes, and group homes. And he’d gotten into hard drugs at a young age. Now, he’d been caught with a DWI and a parole violation just 20 days before the birth of his sons. It was finally time to “break the cycle and break the pattern,” both for the sake of himself and his children. So, he committed to doing exactly that.


Today, Zachary is the founder of a six-figure podcast empire, Underdog Empowerment, and he brushes elbows with other entrepreneurs and multi-millionaires on the regular. Choosing to change his self-image (and, therein, his identity) is what got him here — and he believes that positive self-talk, as well as psychedelics, are equally useful tools for anyone trying to do the same.


In this episode of Good Dudes Grow, Gary, and Zachary talk about what it takes to choose to be your own inspiration, the transformative power of starting over, and how the therapeutic use of cannabis and psychedelics can help.


What You'll Learn:

  • Why, at his lowest point, choosing to start telling himself he was capable of better changed everything for Zachary 
  • How psychedelics can similarly push you into that “self-talk zone,” helping you to forge new brain pathways and transform your sense of identity
  • Why Zachary currently micro-doses on mushrooms each week, and how he’s using CBD and Delta 8 to help with exercise and recovery
  • And much more!


Favorite Quote:


“Whatever you believe about yourself, your self-image, and that voice in your head — that’s who you are.”

— Zachary Babcock


Connect with Zachary: 


Underdog Empowerment


Underdog Empowerment Podcasting (use the code “underdog”)




How to get involved: 

Gary Roberts is the founder and CEO of Pure Body Zen, a company based not only around creating and selling high-quality CBD products, but one that is on a mission to change the landscape on how mental health and addiction are treated. Gary has founded a non-profit called Promises Recovery Centers for those who need it as well as creating the first-ever educational training facility for Physicians, Therapists, and Mental Health advocates using innovative therapeutics like psilocybin, Mdma, and LSD.

You can learn more about Pure Body Zen on their site, on LinkedIn, and on Instagram.

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