303: Call of Cthulhu and Detective Fiction
The Good Friends of Jackson Elias
Release Date: 12/30/2024
The Good Friends of Jackson Elias
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We’re back and we’re sifting through evidence. Being a good detective requires a keen eye for detail, an analytical mind, and a thorough knowledge of the genre. But that happens when you find yourself in a different genre than you were expecting? Is your uncanny ability to piece together disparate clues really an asset when it leads you to horrifying revelations? Maybe this new dark age thing we’ve heard about isn’t so bad after all.
Main Topic: Call of Cthulhu and Detective Fiction
This episode delves into the complex relationship between detective fiction and Lovecraftian horror. The two genres are closely related, both in their literary origins and their broad tropes. But, as our guest host argues, they serve almost opposing purposes. We explore how detective fiction works, and what this can teach us about running Call of Cthulhu.
Our Guest Host
Regular listeners will know that Paul has left the Good Friends. Matt and Scott are inviting interesting people we know to join us as guest hosts, bringing fresh perspectives and expertise to our discussions.
We are delighted to have Heather Miller join us for this episode. Heather is a Lovecraftian scholar who has presented a number of papers at Necronomicon Providence and has recently published a book for Hippocampus Press — Ripples From Carcosa — which explores the relationship between Lovecraft and True Detective.
Heather’s other papers include “Melville and the Lovecraftian Gaze”, which examines the connection between Lovecraft’s investigators and the cosmic horror of Moby-Dick, and “Toward a Definition of Lovecraftpunk”.
You can find Heather’s blog at notesonhplovecraft.blogspot.com, where, amongst other things, she discusses some of the research that went into her book.
Links
Things we mention in this episode include:
- Ripples From Carcosa by Oscar Rios
- True Detective
- Edgar Allan Poe and detective fiction
- Masks of Nyarlathotep
- Palimpsest
- Dirk Gently
- “Shada”
- Walker in the Wastes
- “Music From a Darkened Room”
- At Your Door
- Violence and the Sacred by René Girard
- “The Shadow Over Innsmouth” by HP Lovecraft
- “The Shadow Out of Time” by HP Lovecraft
- The Shadow Out of Tim by The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets
- Ain’t Slayed Nobody
- The Final Revelation
- Into the Darkness
- “Dead Man’s Stomp” from the Call of Cthulhu Starter Set
- Rules of Prey by John Sanford
- Inspector Rebus series by Ian Rankin
- Curtain by Agatha Christie
- Tom Ripley series by Patricia Highsmith
- Mimesis
- Chinatown (1974)
- Oedipus Rex
- Occult detectives
- Harry D’Amour
- Dylan Dog
- Harry Dresden
- Thomas Carnacki
- John Silence
- The Two-Headed Serpent
- The Ballad of Black Tom by Victor LaValle
- “The Horror at Red Hook” by HP Lovecraft
- Detective Tales
- “The Call of Cthulhu” by HP Lovecraft
- “The Mystery of Marie Rogêt” by Edgar Allan Poe
- I Am Providence by ST Joshi
- “The Shunned House” by HP Lovecraft
- The Wench is Dead by Colin Dexter
- “Midnight Sunrise” from World War Cthulhu: London
- “In My Time of Dying” from Supernatural
- “Killed by Death” from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
- Pishtaco
- Nero Wolfe
- “Full Fathom Five”
- Vaesen
News
Just One More Thing
Often, we find ourselves with more to say than will fit into our normal episodes. This may be because we’ve done a bunch of research that didn’t fit into the flow of the conversation, or simply because something occurred to us later. We’ve decided to try putting some of this to use in the form of bonus episodes for our Patreon Backers.
The first episode of Just One More Thing will hit the Good Friends Patreon early in the New Year. In it, Matt and Scott discuss some of the things they couldn’t quite fit into episodes 301 and 302, exploring a few other historical settings that appeal to us and offering some more thoughts about Carnival of Souls.
Please do let us know what you think of this approach. We’d love to hear your feedback.
Scott on Miskatonic Playhouse
Scott recently joined our good friends at the Miskatonic Playhouse for a guest spot, playing Sherlock Holmes in their current Cthulhu by Gaslight game, “Mr Whisper”. Expect some keen investigation, some even more unfortunate dice rolls, and a good helping of body horror.
Scott on Pretending to be People
Speaking of guest spots, Scott also joined our good friends at Pretending to be People as a player in their most recent mini-arc, “Jackfruit Frog Island”. This is a Pulp Cthulhu prequel to their main campaign arc, taking place in the 1890s, and it goes from 0 to 100 almost instantly.
Carnacki the Ghost-Finder Readings
If you were unable to attend the live readings of our 2024 Christmas ghost stories, they are now available on the main Good Friends podcast feed. These two tales of William Hope Hodgson’s Carnacki the Ghost-Finder — “The Searcher of the End House” and “The Horse of the Invisible” — were once again directed by our good friend Mike Perceval-Maxwell of Mr Spike’s Bedtime Stories.
We would like to thank all our readers for bringing these stories to life: Camille Brouard, John Casey, Sarah Dovey, Anthony Lee-Dudley, Brian Murphy, T A Newman, Nic Rosenberg, and Sue Savage.






