318: Metafiction and Horror, with Eleanor Hingley
The Good Friends of Jackson Elias
Release Date: 07/28/2025
The Good Friends of Jackson Elias
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We’re back and we’re discussing metafiction and horror. More importantly, we’re getting the title of the episode in the first paragraph for SEO purposes.
Main Topic: Metafiction and Horror
Metafiction turns up in every genre from literary fiction to SF, breaking fourth walls, playing with storytelling conventions, and embedding fictional narratives within fictional narratives. Our focus here, however, is on the connection between metafiction and horror, whether this is self-aware slasher films or horror novelists who write about horror novelists.
We look at various definitions of metafiction, how they’ve been used in various media, and how all this applies to horror gaming. As ever, we wrap things up with a few ideas about how we might bring all this into our own games. And then we look directly into the camera and wink.
Our Guest Host
We are delighted to welcome Eleanor Hingley back to the Good Friends, following our recent discussion of small town horror. Eleanor is a lifelong horror fan, obsessed with Gothic and horror art since childhood. She has written for a bunch of tabletop roleplaying games, including Doctor Who: The Roleplaying Game, Hollows, Aegean, Broken Weave, The Laundry, Heart, and many other game lines. She also writes interactive fiction for Choice of Games, and has had IF published in sub-Q magazine. Eleanor has released her own independent TTRPG zines, which you can find on her itch.io page: Ex Libris, Talking Thunder and Seed of an Idea. You can follow Eleanor on Bluesky.
Links
Things we mention in this episode include:
- The King in Yellow by Robert W Chambers
- Call of Cthulhu and Detective Fiction
- Haunted Landscapes
- Ripples From Carcosa by Heather Miller
- Postmodern literature
- Small town horror
- The Dark Tower series by Stephen King
- Richard Bachman
- Stephen King’s motor accident
- Alan Wake
- NOS4R2 by Joe Hill
- 20th Century Ghosts by Joe Hill
- Dawn of the Dead (1978)
- Heart-Shaped Box by Joe Hill
- Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut
- Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
- VALIS by Philip K Dick
- The Exegesis of Philip K Dick
- The Invisibles by Grant Morrison
- Chaos magic
- The Real Ghostbusters
- “Deadliners” from Extreme Ghostbusters
- RL Stine
- The Hellbound Heart by Clive Barker
- “Typewriter in the Sky” by L Ron Hubbard
- Jorge Luis Borges
- Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace
- Shaun Hutson
- TV Tropes
- You’re Next (2011)
- Rowan, Rook and Decard
- The Mist (2007)
- Cosmic Dark
- Ain’t Slayed Nobody
- Spirit of the Century
- FATE
- Powered by the Apocalypse
- Forged in the Dark
- Stranger Than Fiction (2006)
- In the Mouth of Madness (1994)
- “Cigarette Burns” from Masters of Horror
- “Imprint” from Masters of Horror
- The French Lieutenant’s Woman by John Fowles
- The French Lieutenant’s Woman (1981)
- Higurashi: When They Cry
- Doki Doki Literature Club!
- Ruby Sparks (2012)
- Charlie Kaufman
- The Phantom of Liberty (1974)
- House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski
- Gahan Wilson
- Powered by the Apocalypse World by Willow Palecek
- Monsterhearts
- Violence: The Role-Playing Game of Egregious and Repulsive Bloodshed by Greg Costikyan
- Over the Edge
- DIE
- Dungeons & Dragons cartoon
- The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen R Donaldson
- The Play’s the Thing
- The Queen’s Men
- Primetime Adventures
- World of Darkness
- Aftermath!
- The Apocalypse Players
- Horrorstör by Grady Hendrix
- The Final Girls (2015)
- Tribesmen by Adam Cesare
- Clown in a Cornfield by Adam Cesare
- Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
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