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304: From Zero GovCon Experience to Buying a 20-Year Federal Contractor with Mario Antwine

Govcon Giants Podcast

Release Date: 12/03/2025

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On this episode of the GovCon Giants Podcast, Eric sits down with Mario Antwine, Yale and Howard grad, M&A strategist, and new owner of Pearl Interactive Network, to break down how a finance guy bought an eight-figure federal contractor and is now scaling it like a private equity platform. Mario shares why he targeted GovCon specifically, how he acquired Pearl sight unseen, and the operational upgrades he’s made to modernize a 20-year-old business process outsourcing company serving HHS, DOD, VA, and DHS.

You’ll hear how he thinks about systems, advisors, and culture, why he’s aggressively hunting small-business teaming partners, and why the future of GovCon belongs to companies that pair mission-driven work with tech-enabled innovation. 

Key Takeaways:

  • Buy, don’t just build: Mario used acquisition—backed by strong advisors and a clear thesis—to enter GovCon and rapidly step into large, long-term federal contracts instead of starting from scratch.

  • Teaming as a growth engine: Pearl is actively looking for small-business partners in digital transformation, cloud/ServiceNow, behavioral health, automation, and IT help desk across HHS, Defense Health, VA, and DHS.

  • Platforms > one-off contracts: The winners in the next phase of GovCon will be those who build repeatable systems, tech-enabled delivery models, and mission-focused platforms that agencies and primes can’t imagine operating without.

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