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What’s the difference between change and transformation? With Mark Wild and Lorraine Mackin

The Green Room: Questions That Matter Most In Business

Release Date: 02/11/2025

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We’re all familiar with change.

Our schedules change. Projects change. The world changes. It’s the only constant, as they say.

And so, we learn how to adapt to new landscapes, adjusting our plans and executing accordingly.

But transforming something and making real progress – that’s another beast altogether.

It’s about moving from who you are to who you want to be. About reinventing a business for the future. Or shaping a project that will impact lives for years to come.

Making progress involves risk. Trying new things. Stepping outside of your comfort zone. All while making sure it’s ultimately helping society and business move forward.

It starts from a vision, but the road to get there is often winding and unexpected.

So, what can we learn from those who’ve been there and done it?

We’re joined in this episode by Mark Wild, CEO of HS2, and Lorraine Mackin, UK Lead Partner for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Government, to ask: What's the difference between change and transformation?

Tune in to find out:

  • Why Mark doesn’t like “the T word”  
  • The biggest transformation project facing the world   
  • The vision behind some of society’s biggest transformations
  • What Mark’s learnt from managing high-profile and large-scale transformation projects 

 

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Guests: Mark Wild, CEO of HS2 and Lorraine Mackin, UK Lead Partner for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Government

Hosts: Annie Wong and Lizzie Elston

Original music: Ali Barrett