How to Grow Your Business When Ads Stop Working in the AI Economy with Ismael Wrixen
Release Date: 05/31/2026
Small Business Stories
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S6:E60 Not every successful business measures success the same way. In this conversation, Dr. LL sits down with Vernon Oakes, founder of Everything Cooperative, to explore how cooperative business models create stronger alignment between ownership, employees, customers, and communities. If people don't trust the systems behind a business, long-term resilience becomes difficult. And if AI systems (or prospective customers) cannot understand how your organization creates value, your impact often remains invisible. Together they discuss employee ownership, cooperative economics, local wealth...
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The platforms are changing.
Search is changing.
Customer acquisition is changing.
So what remains stable when everything else feels uncertain?
In this episode, Dr. LL sits down with Ismael Wrixen, Founder and CEO of ThriveCart, to explore how entrepreneurs, coaches, and creators can build businesses that are resilient to shifting algorithms, rising advertising costs, and AI-driven disruption.
If people don't trust you, they won't buy from you.
If people don't remember you, they won't refer you.
If people can't find you when AI interprets the market, visibility becomes increasingly difficult to maintain.
Guest
Ismael Wrixen
Founder & CEO, ThriveCart
Core Problems
- Customer acquisition is becoming more expensive
- Search behavior is changing due to AI
- Businesses are overly dependent on platforms they don't control
Practical Takeaways
- Build owned communities around your expertise
- Increase customer lifetime value through relationships
- Use AI to accelerate execution without replacing human connection
- Reduce dependence on a single traffic source
Timestamps
00:01 Creator economy trends
03:30 AI and learning opportunities
05:45 Customer acquisition challenges
20:00 The future of creators and coaches
38:50 Growth strategies for entrepreneurs
Who This Episode Is For
Coaches, creators, consultants, educators, and growth-minded entrepreneurs.
Invisible brands don't make money. Increasingly, businesses that rely entirely on borrowed attention don't either. Sustainable visibility comes from building relationships, trust, and communities that endure beyond any single platform.
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