Hospice Nurse Penny on "Influencing Death," End-of-Life Myths, and The Difference Between Hospice and Palliative Care
Release Date: 11/27/2025
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info_outlineDoes discussing death actually help us live better? In this episode of the The Gritty Nurse Podcast, Host Amie Archibald-Varley sits down with Penny Hawkins Smith—better known to her millions of followers as Hospice Nurse Penny—to find out.
Penny is a certified hospice and palliative care nurse and a "death influencer" who uses social media to combat death anxiety and misinformation. She joins us to share her incredible journey from the ICU to hospice care and to discuss her new memoir, Influencing Death: Reframing Dying for Better Living.
Together, we break down the critical (and often misunderstood) differences between hospice and palliative care, debunk common myths about morphine and the dying process, and dive into the "gritty" reality of end-of-life advocacy. Penny also opens up about the mysterious side of dying—including "visioning" and the unexplainable phenomena nurses witness at the bedside.
Whether you are a healthcare professional, a caregiver, or just someone looking to understand mortality better, this conversation is an honest, educational, and surprisingly uplifting look at the end of life.
In This Episode, We Cover:
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Hospice vs. Palliative Care: What is the actual difference, and when should you ask for a consult?
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The "Death Influencer" Phenomenon: How Penny uses TikTok and Instagram to educate millions and fight death phobia.
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Controversial Topics in Death Care: We tackle the hard questions about withholding food/fluids, pain management, and the stigma surrounding hospice.
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Mysterious Experiences: Penny shares stories of "visioning" (seeing deceased loved ones) and terminal lucidity.
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Influencing Death: A look inside Penny’s new memoir and how her personal struggles with addiction shaped her compassionate approach to nursing.
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Advocacy in Action: How nurses can lead the charge in normalizing conversations about death.
Resources Mentioned:
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Book: Influencing Death: Reframing Dying for Better Living by Penny Hawkins Smith
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Follow Penny: @HospiceNursePenny on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube.
- Website: https://www.hospicenursepenny.com/
Listen now to learn why talking about death is the key to a better life.
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