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Fall; or, Dodge in Hell: Part 9 - Turtles All the Way Down

The Hashish and Superiority Book Club

Release Date: 01/22/2020

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James and Hugh talk about The Punisher's computer guy, America's Chernobyl, and mostly Richard Power's The Overstory.   Want more of these conversations? To hear Wade's eventual thoughts on The Overstory? Check out the Kickers of Elves patreon at https://patreon.com/kickersofelves

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A hollow man?  The Quest is completed. We finally put Bitworld to rest. How many books are in this book?  Again, themes are questioned.  Fantasy forms are discussed before the big wrap up.  Final feelings -and the book- are put to rest.  And no, Chris Brown did not sing on that one song.   If you have your own opinions to share: 917 408 3898  

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We go full reaility show drama/American Chopper Meme with this one.

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The regular James returns.  Is it the same podcast on down throughout every reality? First, a synopsis! We haven’t actually done many of those.    Are you ready for some hot logging action?  Do we live in simulation?   Is it turtles all the way down?  Is there some Snow Crash in this?  Work and labor!  Do the economics of this book fall flat?    Is this a libertarian text?    Is Bitworld’s similarity to our world the point?  How confounding is this to the general reader?  Do other books have a more balanced...

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We experienced a loss with this episode.  There may, however, be a technological solution.  Listen for a note at the top of the episode to explain further, but the short is: A routine procedure went awry.  James is Gone (No, he's not!) Maybe he is here, in some sense. What exactly does Gnosticism have to do with Dodge in Hell?  Quite a lot it turns out! We read the beginning of Book 2 of Fall for this installment, but even if you haven't read it that's ok.  It's a book about a simulated afterlife.  Lets talk about simulations and their worth.   ...

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Book One ends, but we're still arguing the premise of the book. How is this thing structured anyway?  All about El’s name.  Paradise Lost, huh?  Does Milton’s view of history have anything to do with this book?  What are we supposed to derive from Paradise Lost similarities? Oh boy, here’s where we start going off the rails.  If Maeve refers to a brain “simulation” does that completely negate the conceit of a digital afterlife?  What is the humanity of this book?  Is it a dog staring at your finger?  Are these people dead or not?   More...

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With Ameristan behind us, it's time to head back to the back to the conference room. Things get heated.  More analyzing the mental state of the author. Is he calming? Is he ok? Are we ok? Are you ok?  Just what is happing here? 917 408 3898 https://kickersofelves.com

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We think we have a better idea of the book now, but do we?  Is this an angry book where Neal is working out his feelings on the 2016 election?  Are dumb people the biggest problem in the world? Welcome to Ameristan!  Is this intellectual elitism?   More predictions and trying to figure this thing out. Are we right?  Wrong?  What a sex scene!

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We’re into Fall!  What do we think about the book so far and just how wrong are we about what’s going to come next? 

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The regular James returns.  Is it the same podcast on down throughout every reality?

First, a synopsis! We haven’t actually done many of those.    Are you ready for some hot logging action? 

Do we live in simulation?   Is it turtles all the way down? 

Is there some Snow Crash in this? 

Work and labor!  Do the economics of this book fall flat?    Is this a libertarian text?   

Is Bitworld’s similarity to our world the point? 

How confounding is this to the general reader?  Do other books have a more balanced perspective?  Should the book be testing its own thesis in its text?     

Does it always come back to Ursula K. LeGuin?   

Is this like reading a Foundation book?   

Is this book a complete antithesis to Alan Moore’s Jerusalem on a number of levels? 

Is Fantasy as a genre necessarily synonymous with Adventure?   

But enough of our opinions: What do other Stephenson fans at r/sciencefiction think about how his books end?

How does having  kids affect one’s desire for a tight plot structure?  Do unemotional/emotional  20 year olds have a better tolerance or patience for long books of this nature? 

So many questions.

RATE the podcast. Mind your consonants, people! 

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