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216: Leading Without a Map with Kate Pangallo

Being [at Work]

Release Date: 01/22/2026

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Being [at Work]

Being [at Work] offers a daily dose of leadership focused on helping you, the leader. During challenging times we need all of the encouragement we can get. Sometimes there’s simply no playbook and we just need to do the best we can. Sometimes the best we can is being reminded of the gifts and insight you already have within. Be sure to subscribe and get your daily dose.   About Andrea Butcher Andrea Butcher is a visionary business leader, executive coach, and keynote speaker—she empowers leaders to gain clarity through the chaos by being MORE of who they already are. Her...

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Have you ever been in that place where you’ve felt like the vision wasn’t being given to you, your goals weren’t clear, or the strategy wasn’t focused, so you couldn’t lead?

Kate Pangallo has built her career navigating that tension, leading through constant change, often without a clear roadmap. And she has had to decide again and again what part she will play in extending a sense of vision and stability to others when it hasn’t been given to her.

We’re all looking for stability and comfort, but change is the only constant we can expect. Every leader who’s ever stood in the messiness of change has felt the ground shift right beneath their feet. In those moments, the only thing you can control is your response.

The best shot we have at predicting our future is to step up and create it. That requires us to take responsibility for the next step, even when there is no guarantee it is the right one. Focusing on the next step gives you power and lessens the overwhelm.

Where in your life are you waiting for stability that may never come? What is the next step you need to take to create your future?

 

Episode Highlights

(00:00) How do you lead when you haven’t been given a clear vision, strategy, or goals?

(02:55) What you can control when change hits

(05:27) Kate Pangallo’s story: Navigating layoffs, leadership changes, and personal crisis

(13:12) How to act instead of waiting, shifting from victim to victor

(19:06) Two anchors for leadership during uncertainty

(25:09) What to do when you haven’t been given a vision or goals

(31:00) The magic of focusing on the next right step, versus overwhelming yourself

(33:07) Concrete tools for keeping calm and steady during times of instability

(38:20) Celebrating wins and showing grace to yourself and others in tough times

 

Connect with Kate Pangallo

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpangallo/

 

About Andrea Butcher

Andrea Butcher is a visionary business leader, executive coach, and keynote speaker—she empowers leaders to gain clarity through the chaos by being MORE of who they already are. Her experiences—serving as CEO, leading at an executive level, and working in and leading global teams—make her uniquely qualified to support leadership and business success. She hosts the popular leadership podcast, Being [at Work] with a global audience of over 600,000 listeners and is the author of The Power in the Pivot (Red Thread Publishing 2022) and HR Kit for Dummies (Wiley 2023).

 

Connect with Andrea

https://www.abundantempowerment.com/

Connect with Andrea Butcher on LinkedIn 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/leaderdevelopmentcoach/

 

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