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Talking to Someone about Their Mental Health

Life in Relationship

Release Date: 02/07/2022

Life Transitions & Nature show art Life Transitions & Nature

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Question: What skills can nature teach us about life transition and change? Transitions come with stress  Attending to the transition, noticing the energy and tasks required Various emotions of transition Nature as an intentional place to "escape" to    Tip #1 - any time in nature is valuable   Tip #2 - nature reminds us every thing happens in its time  notice the transitions in nature itself to validate your own Widen the lens - notice the steady cycle around the changes all around us allow the time of a transition, nature allows the slowness of...

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Emotion Regulation & the Natural World show art Emotion Regulation & the Natural World

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Question: How does nature help with regulation and balance?   Dave’s forest therapy training -   Emotion Regulation tip #1 - let things be complicated Science and mystery Concrete concepts around ourselves and our bodies as well as spiritual or less concrete concepts around ourselves   Emotion Regulation tip  #2 - we regulate when we provide a space For each other (co-regulation) For ourselves (self-regulation) We are a part of nature and regulate within nature. We are constantly in a process of shedding and restoring. God designed us with internal and...

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Control & Letting Go: Give it to the Trees show art Control & Letting Go: Give it to the Trees

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Question: How do I let go of things I can’t control?   A Dave and Heidi story: the cynical season or “life on the edge” and our first forest therapy attempt Learning to let go of the outcome   Letting Go Tip #1 - Find a practice of noticing what we don’t control or can’t control Example: stand in the woods or the yard and note the basic elements of nature around you that you can’t control   Letting Go Tip #2 - Read Job chapters 38-42 The duality of meaningfulness and meaninglessness The duality of Challenge and acceptance “Job’s in scripture because...

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Season 7 Trailer - Relationships, Mental Health, & the Natural World show art Season 7 Trailer - Relationships, Mental Health, & the Natural World

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Welcome to Season 7 of our little podcast! Dave and I are looking forward to a season of talking about three of our very favorite things comingled...well, four really - life in relationships, mental health, the natural world, and spirituality.  Some topics and questions you'll find in the conversation this season include:  How does nature help with emotion regulation? How do I let go of things I can’t control?  What skills can nature teach us about life transition and change? How do I start healing from Spiritual Trauma? And more... Look for 7 episodes wherever you get your...

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Special guest Chris Kennedy, Pastor and Author Chris’s book, Grace Under Pressure - (associate link)   Proactive v reactive approach Proactive = investing in taking care of ourselves, our emotions, our whole selves to be able to live in the moment more authentically as ourselves and in what we value/believe Reactive = awareness of emotion when it comes up   Tip 1 - Attend to and nurture The environment Relationships Internal needs Growth mindset – realist outlook + everything is redeemable   Tip 2 – Hold the tension of love with your frustration or anger   Tip 3 –...

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How do I find more happiness? Happiness is a momentary emotion, as all emotions are, time oriented, even as a mood   Tip 1 - Look for happy moments, not a vague ongoing experience   Defining – emotion related to joy, gladness, satisfaction, or wellbeing Related to confidence or satisfaction with a moment, a person, a situation   Tip 2 – avoid all or nothing thinking Allow and acknowledge several emotions in your system at one time Value all the emotions   Tip 3 – We’re ok v. Yay! Positive psych and researching the experience of happiness...

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How do I tell the difference between my anxiety and my child’s?   Attachment relationships are more connected for regulation The value of presence The detriment of sponging emotion   Tip #1 – adults can bring the emotions to consciousness for kids Notice and name the emotion in the room Also helps us differentiate between my emotion and someone else   Tip #2 – go out into nature/Creation to release some emotion Link to forest therapy info: https://www.natureandforesttherapy.earth/   Tip #3 – know your own “stuff” (triggers, concerns, traumas)   Tip #4 –...

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Sadness show art Sadness

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How do I help my loved one when they are sad?   Differences in sadness and sorrow definition relationship to distress and emotion regulation   Elevated, heavy feelings – sadness, guilt, remorse/regret, powerlessness -       Time oriented, long suffering, pain taking time -       Death, change, trauma, heartbreak, injustice, loss, disappointment, bad luck, trouble   Consider the moments when someone becomes aware of something challenging No fixing acknowledgement goes a long way let these emotions be a process let...

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Listener question: How do I have a conversation with someone I disagree with when I feel passionately about something?   Annoyed, accosted, attacked, or acknowledgment – honoring people’s passions while setting our own boundaries   Tip 1 – root around your belief systems and consider how it impacts people   Tip 2 – use words to state our emotions as well as our thoughts   Define Zeal -       great energy or enthusiasm for a cause of goal (google) -       eagerness and ardent interest in something...

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Empathy with Boundaries show art Empathy with Boundaries

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Listener question: How do I have both empathy and boundaries? Article on empathy and boundaries at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/the-savior-complex-empathy-without-boundaries  The difference between “hey, hold my emotions” and “withness” Cognitive empathy: Do they need us to see their perspective? Listen and ask questions about what they are thinking and how they see the world and their current experience.  Emotional empathy: Do they need us to see their feelings? Listen and ask questions that help them name their emotions and give a space to...

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Topic: How do I talk to someone I love who is struggling with their mental health?

Intro: Changing stigma towards mental health

Step 1 - changing our beliefs

Step 2 - changing our actions related to beliefs

2019 APA survey:

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2019/05/mental-health-survey

 

  1. What is my relationship with this person? (4:30)
  • Relationship = vulnerability + boundaries
  • Where are they at? Consider the person’s willingness to have the conversation
  • Can they see the concerns or are they mostly unaware?
  • Use the phrase – “I’ve noticed” or “Have you noticed…”
  • Start with culturally normative symptoms or what might be easiest from them to hear
  • Shift our own understanding about mental health as part of everyone’s everyday life

 

  1. Get some info for yourself

QPR training for suicide prevention:

https://qprinstitute.com/individual-training

 

  1. Consider your language and your relationship with your own mental health (18:00)
  • Do not make assumptions
  • Ask lots of questions
  • Use a tone of respect
  • People are more responsive when we are willing to deal with our own stuff
  • Be authentic in our own struggles
  • The struggle isn’t usually the same intensity forever

 

  1. Have some resources ready and check back in (23:30)

https://www.crisistextline.org/text-us/

https://www.thehotline.org/ for family and relationship violence

211 – basic resources local to you

  • look up some local therapists

therapist search on Heidi’s website: https://heidigoehmann.com/connect

  • Combat veteran resources and info around trauma

Normalizing combat trauma - https://www.ptsd.va.gov/understand/common/common_veterans.asp

Find an EMDR therapist - https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/

Get your own therapy if they are resistant (or if they aren’t)

  • books –

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone - https://amzn.to/3EXYkhV

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone Workbook - https://amzn.to/3HPMpEL

            Soul of Shame - https://amzn.to/3pViWTK

      Daring Greatly - https://amzn.to/3zwOpPw

Fresh Hope Workbook - https://amzn.to/3faK0YV

Fresh Hope website - https://freshhope.us/

Loving Someone Series –

PTSD - https://amzn.to/34oRh5s

Bipolar - https://amzn.to/3zsYEnK

ADHD - https://amzn.to/3mYkmuY

 

  1. Don’t forget boundaries for yourself with compassion

 

Mental health page at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/mental-health-1

Relationship page at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/relationships

 

 

Short Answer: There is no perfect way to have the conversation - start somewhere, with a resource and a single awkward conversation.