Finding Brave: How to Reclaim Your Power and Build Genuine Leadership with Kathy Caprino
Release Date: 05/19/2025
It's Not About The Money
Have you ever looked at your bank account and thought "this should feel like enough," yet still felt that familiar knot of anxiety in your stomach whenever money came up? You're absolutely not alone in this experience. This week, I'm diving deep into why you can feel broke even when you have money - and it has nothing to do with the actual numbers in your account. The real culprit? Your nervous system and how it's been programmed to recognise what feels "safe" around money. If you grew up hearing "we can't afford that" or witnessed your parents stress about finances, your body has been...
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In this episode, I'm joined by Chris Ducker, serial entrepreneur, founder of Youpreneur, and author of the brand new book "The Long-Haul Leader." Chris shares his deeply personal journey from building multi-seven figure businesses whilst burning himself out, to being diagnosed with phase three adrenal failure, depression, and anxiety all in the same day in 2021. What emerged from that breakdown was a complete reimagining of what sustainable success looks like - moving away from hustle culture towards what he calls "long-haul leadership." We explore his Life OS framework with its four key...
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Episode Overview In this episode, I'm delighted to chat with Michelle Taylor, founder of Women in Wealth and host of the "Talk Wealthy to Me" podcast, who shares her incredibly powerful and vulnerable money story. From growing up with two parents who had completely opposite approaches to money, to being diagnosed with leukaemia at 17, to finding herself unable to buy a magazine at the airport because four credit cards were declined - Michelle's journey is a masterclass in resilience and financial transformation. Her story beautifully illustrates how our early money experiences shape us, and...
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In this episode, I share a powerful story about a well-known financial celebrity who, despite decades of expertise and clear logical reasons, had been putting off the same property purchase for almost 20 years. What we discovered in our conversation reveals everything about why you might be undercharging, avoiding money conversations, or sabotaging your financial success - and it's not what you think. Through my seven-day money story discovery process, I'll show you how to uncover the hidden inherited survival strategies that have been passed down through three generations, affecting every...
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In this episode, I'm delighted to chat with Jason Graystone, author of "Always Free" and investor who achieved financial freedom at just 30 years old. Jason and I actually met on a ski trip with Daniel Priestley earlier this year, and I couldn't resist having him on the show to discuss his remarkable journey from hiding behind the sofa as bailiffs knocked on the door in his childhood council estate, to building a half-million subscriber YouTube channel and living completely financially free on his West Sussex farm. We dive deep into why most people never achieve financial freedom, the...
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In this comprehensive masterclass episode, I share everything I learned during my 15 years working inside banks as a trained financial adviser, watching thousands of intelligent people convinced they weren't good with money. After discovering that you don't need to be rich to get started, don't need financial qualifications, and definitely don't need to love numbers to build wealth like the top 1%, I'm pulling back the curtain on the complete system that's helped thousands break free from financial stress. This is your complete guide to transforming your relationship with money - covering both...
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Episode Overview In this episode, I'm delighted to chat with bestselling author and visibility expert Selena Soo about her incredible book "Rich Relationships." After following Selena's work for years and witnessing the transformative results her expertise creates, I dive deep into her revolutionary approach to building, nurturing, and activating your million-dollar network. We explore how rich relationships - those that massively enrich the quality of your life - are truly the fastest way to get from where you are to where you want to be, especially in today's economy where trust is at an...
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In this episode, I tackle one of the biggest challenges facing business owners today: working 50-70 hours a week but still lying awake wondering where all the money has gone. Through a real client case study and practical strategies, I reveal why being busy isn't the same as being profitable, and share the three fundamental ways to transform your hard work into actual profit that pays you properly. Chapters 00:00 The Busy vs. Profitable Paradox 02:45 Understanding Profit Confusion 06:07 Designing Your Life for Profit 09:13 The Importance of Knowing Your Financial Needs 12:06 Time...
info_outlineIn this episode, I welcome back international career and leadership expert Kathy Caprino to explore the concept of finding brave - why bravery is essential for breaking through personal and professional barriers, and how vulnerability can be a pathway to authentic power.
Episode Highlights:
Kathy's Journey to Finding Brave
- From an 18-year corporate career to becoming a therapist and coach
- The pivotal moment of being laid off after 9/11, when her therapist asked: "Who do you want to be in the world?"
- Training as a therapist and discovering that helping women bypass her own painful experiences became her calling
- The realisation in 2018 that clients across different backgrounds were bringing the same core problems
The Seven Power Gaps
Research with over 20,000 women revealed seven critical gaps that prevent people from thriving:
- Not recognising your special talents, abilities and gifts
- Communicating from fear, not strength
- Reluctance to ask for what you want and deserve
- Isolating from influential support
- Acquiescing instead of saying stop to unfair behaviour or mistreatment
- Losing sight of the thrilling dream you had for your life
- Allowing the past to continue to shape and define you
- 98% of women surveyed and 90% of men had at least one of these gaps
- 75% of people had three or more gaps, indicating they weren't truly thriving
Redefining Power and Agency
- Why many people resist the word "power" - associating it with control over others rather than personal agency
- True power means the ability to shape yourself and what's in front of you through thinking, mindset, beliefs, and energy
- The importance of understanding that we have agency - we always had it, but often weren't taught how to recognise or use it
- How fear can create self-fulfilling prophecies through the energy we project
The Role of Vulnerability in Finding Brave
- Kathy's definition of vulnerability: uncertainty, risk, and exposure (following Brené Brown's work)
- Personal story about confronting her dentist about not wearing her retainer - choosing courage over comfort
- How masks we wear are often shaped by early family dynamics and societal conditioning
- The liberating conversation with her Greek mother about challenging authority
Practical Tools for Building Personal Agency
- Career Path Self-Assessment: 13 pages of questions Kathy wishes someone had asked her at 22
- The importance of recognising talents beyond just learned skills
- Reaching out to 10 people for LinkedIn recommendations to see yourself through others' eyes
- Using personality assessments and alternative frameworks (numerology, astrology, human design) as mirrors for self-discovery
The Power of Animals as Teachers
- Horse therapy example: how animals mirror our energy and leadership styles
- Kathy's experience volunteering at a horse rescue - how sensitive animals reflect our authentic selves
- The importance of collaborative leadership styles and knowing when to lead from different positions
Final Thought
Nothing is wasted - even struggles and detours serve a purpose. Personal growth work is essential for career and leadership success. The key is to reclaim small pieces of joy and creativity that may have been "squashed out" over time.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Bravery and Personal Growth
03:00 Kathy's Journey: From Corporate to Coaching
08:53 The Concept of Finding Brave
12:00 Defining Bravery: Personal Experiences and Growth
17:10 Understanding Masks: Why We Hide Our True Selves
19:47 Power Gaps: Identifying and Overcoming Barriers
25:11 Personal Agency: Claiming Your Power
29:51 The Role of Family and Social Conditioning
31:11 Mitigating Challenges and Personal Growth
34:50 Recognizing Unique Talents and Abilities
40:53 Exploring Self-Validation and External Resources
46:43 Understanding Leadership Styles and Personal Power
53:01 Embracing Personal Growth and Future Aspirations
Resources:
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Come to our Wealth Awakening Retreat
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