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The Psychology of Wealth: How to Start Thinking Rich with Dr. Brad Klontz

It's Not About The Money

Release Date: 05/26/2025

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In this episode, I welcome back financial psychology expert Dr. Brad Klontz to explore his latest book "Start Thinking Rich: The 21 Harsh Truths to Take You from Broke to Financial Freedom." Unlike his previous works, this book takes a direct, no-nonsense approach to addressing the mindset barriers that keep people financially stuck.

Episode Highlights:

The Psychology Behind "Harsh Truths"

  • Why Dr. Klontz chose a more confrontational tone for this book
  • The difference between therapeutic approaches and direct accountability
  • How triggering language like "broke" and "rich" can break through emotional noise
  • The timing element: only 2 out of 10 people are ready for direct confrontation at any given time

Broke vs Poor: A Critical Distinction

  • "Broke" defined as a temporary state of having no money
  • "Poor mindset" as a dangerous mental framework that can keep you broke forever
  • The importance of attacking the mindset, not insulting people who lack money
  • How poor mindset can affect people earning £100,000+ per year

Developing a Rich Mindset

Internal vs External Locus of Control

  • The rare person who looks at their financial situation and says "my mindset got me here"
  • Why people with external locus of control often stay broke forever
  • The power of focusing on the 50% you can control rather than blaming external factors
  • How internal locus of control is the strongest predictor of future wealth

The Money Avoidance Paradox

  • People who believe "rich people are greedy" also tend to worship money more than others
  • The internal struggle: "I hate money but desperately want to be rich"
  • How negative beliefs about wealth create psychological barriers to achieving it

The Body-Mind Connection in Money Psychology

  • How financial trauma passes down through generations via DNA changes
  • The fight-or-flight response around money stored in our bodies
  • Why poverty creates survival behaviours that later keep people stuck
  • The importance of acknowledging ancestral trauma whilst moving beyond it

The Social Dynamics of Wealth

  • Why people sabotage themselves when they achieve financial success
  • The tribal psychology: we're wired to stay within similar socioeconomic groups
  • How friends and family unconsciously sabotage your financial growth out of love
  • Dr. Klontz's personal experience moving away geographically to manage this dynamic

Teaching Children About Money

  • Wealthy families have significantly more money conversations than middle-class families
  • Dr. Klontz's strategies with his children: emphasising giving, investing, and hard work
  • The importance of saying "that's not how we choose to spend our money" rather than "we can't afford it"
  • How digital money makes spending easier and less emotionally connected

Practical Applications

  • Finding role models who have achieved your goals and share your background
  • The strategy of asking successful people for 20-30 minutes of their time for advice
  • Why surrounding yourself with people who have a "poor mindset" will hold you back
  • The fire (Financial Independence Retire Early) movement example of extreme opposite culture

Final Thought

The key to developing a rich mindset starts with cultivating an internal locus of control. When facing any problem, ask yourself: "What red flags did I ignore? What can I do differently moving forward?" This shift from blame to personal agency is the foundation of wealth-building psychology.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Financial Psychology and Dr. Brad Klont

01:58 Exploring 'Start Thinking Rich' and Harsh Truths

06:29 The Difference Between Broke and Poor Mindsets

10:12 Personal Agency and Financial Mindset

15:49 The Connection Between Love and Money

20:39 Body-Mind Connection in Financial Psychology

25:16 The Impact of Social Circles on Wealth Mindset

29:59 The Psychological Impact of Financial Success

36:05 Navigating Relationships and Money

42:55 Teaching the Next Generation About Money

46:02 Cultivating a Rich Mindset

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