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The Future Of Money and AI With Natalie MacNeil

It's Not About The Money

Release Date: 06/02/2025

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In this forward-thinking episode, I'm joined by Emmy award-winning media entrepreneur and futurist Natalie MacNeil to explore the radical transformation of money happening before our eyes. From decentralised finance to community wealth-building, we dive deep into what the future holds for how we earn, save, and invest.

The Dragonfly Metaphor

  • Richard Rudd's story of the dragonfly as a metaphor for our current financial transformation
  • Water nymphs living underwater with no concept of flying - representing our current understanding of money
  • The biological impulse to climb up and transform into something completely different
  • How we're about to experience a shift as dramatic as moving from water to flying through air

From Individual to Collective Wealth

  • The shift from individual wealth-building to community-focused financial systems
  • How AI, robotics, automation, and blockchain will converge to change everything
  • The "zero cost margin scenario" - when robots can produce almost everything for nearly free
  • Why community and focusing on "being human" becomes crucial as machines replace human labour

Decentralised Finance Revolution

  • How fiat currency is backed by trust, not gold, creating vulnerability to government money printing
  • The concept of being "your own bank" through decentralised finance
  • Smart contracts replacing traditional intermediaries like bankers and lawyers
  • Decentralised Autonomous Organisations (DAOs) returning power to communities
  • Real examples already happening: Tesla robo-taxis that can work and earn money autonomously

New Forms of Wealth Creation

  • Why future wealth won't come from jobs but from owning the machines and AI doing the work
  • Capital ownership becoming more crucial than ever
  • Examples of productive digital assets and cryptocurrency staking
  • The importance of creating a "low burn digital life" with location independence

Portfolio Allocation and Risk Management

  • Natalie's 15% crypto allocation vs traditional financial advice of 2-3%
  • The importance of age and risk tolerance in allocation decisions
  • Warning against valueless meme coins and alt coins without real utility
  • Focus on coins with genuine technology and long-term value propositions

Values-Based Investing in Digital Assets

  • Screening investments for environmental impact and sustainability
  • Using AI tools to analyse portfolio alignment with personal values
  • The concept of money as "a prayer" - investing with sacred intention
  • Gradual transition rather than wholesale portfolio changes

Practical Implementation Strategies

  • Using AI to create personalised financial education courses
  • Building custom GPTs as investment advisors with daily market updates
  • Incorporating emotional forecasting and fear/greed index monitoring
  • The tokenisation of real-world assets like property for easier transactions

Preparing the Next Generation

  • How financial education will be radically different in five years
  • Teaching children about digital assets and decentralised systems
  • The importance of understanding both traditional and future financial systems

Final Thought

This transformation requires both practical preparation and spiritual growth. As robots free up human time, we must explore deeper questions about purpose, abundance, and what it means to be human. The future is moving from scarcity to abundance - but only for those who prepare and adapt.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Future of Money

02:52 The Dragonfly Metaphor: Transitioning to New Realities

05:48 From Individual Wealth to Collective Wealth

09:07 The Role of Community in the Future Economy

12:01 Decentralized Finance: A New Financial Paradigm

15:02 Opportunities and Risks in the New Financial Landscape

18:02 Capital Ownership and the Rise of AI

20:46 Investing in the Future: Strategies for Success

23:59 Navigating Risks in the Digital Age

27:14 Understanding Cryptocurrencies: A Beginner's Guide

35:35 The Concept of VisionCoin

38:04 Investing in Decentralized Finance

40:50 Ethical and Values-Based Investing

42:40 Tokenization of Assets

44:52 Practical Steps for Ethical Investing

50:02 Leveraging AI for Financial Education

56:27 The Emotional Aspect of Investing

01:00:29 Preparing for a New Financial Paradigm

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